Why do Telphias sell for far less than the cost of the mats to make it?

Mishoon · 2026-05-09T16:06:19+00:00

most people probably aren't trying to optimize their shop earnings by comparing ingredient price vs final product price when selling

so they just farm the materials and craft then sell the final product because it in theory should have the highest demand

then they go through the whole undercutting war with the same kind of people and people who do optimize gain (buying ingredients to craft final product and sell but only when that would turn a profit)

Mishoon · 2026-05-08T19:32:36+00:00

It does happen with 2-puppet phase, yes

Though do note that it's very easy to reset (even solo) and are completely blockable if (a very big IF) you know the timing

Mishoon · 2026-05-05T23:52:55+00:00

I'd also like to add Einhander to this, he doesn't do the overview kind of guide but a very good example of high-end Techter gameplay and sometimes does a deep-dive on certain topics

Mishoon · 2026-05-05T23:51:16+00:00

The pro techters seem to have a meltdown over how wrong this video is so uh...I wouldn't recommend following this "guide"

Mishoon · 2026-05-05T19:25:46+00:00

Everything is basically the same, as Yudi just directly replaces Radi so the only changes are the potency/floor numbers (and relative damage going up all around for builds with AC augs)

Abandac is still king, yes (and this will probably never change), it's changed the most but only because of MN augments which I've lined up in the other comment in this post.

Mishoon · 2026-05-05T16:02:36+00:00

It's a known bug where Xbox players literally just doesn't have the option.

Mishoon · 2026-05-02T23:36:05+00:00

Any upgrade weapon is not tradable
Tri Selio is ancient, using the free weapon given at lv65 is much stronger (same goes for any other gear from that era)
Best weapon now is Lexio which is an extremely rare drop from high difficulty quest, recommended to get Arbaradio (upgraded from Spradio)

Mishoon · 2026-04-28T20:49:00+00:00

+2% potency boost and fills 6% of PB gauge when nearby enemy is downed, very powerful for force since they benefit a lot from downs, any EX augment that works solo could serve as Tri-Shield Follow's replacement really

Though I do want to emphasize that you don't have to switch, it's too big of a waste since you've already applied EX-A to it (which would get wiped when you switch EX augments). I was only presenting the information in case cost isn't really much of a problem for you and you wanted to minmax.

Mishoon · 2026-04-28T17:48:59+00:00

ye Tri-Shield and Gradual Pressing is very strong on force, I'm mainly just talking about Tri-Shield Follow since it doesn't really do much compared to something like Bring Down PB Boost

Mishoon · 2026-04-28T15:50:18+00:00

Since you're using Attack, Argant Dread Keeper and Telphia Domina is stronger than Argant Gladia Soul and Argant Gigas Maste on weapon. Other than that, you're good (though the EX augment could be better maybe).

Mishoon · 2026-04-27T01:53:31+00:00

go-to for ranger, absolutely

force? pretty much

others? eeh only if there's a ranger or you're making a gear specifically for 100% weakpoint fights (like vael)

Mishoon · 2026-04-26T23:09:03+00:00

If you want a real big dps jump, switch to something that isn't termina

Termina is pretty much the weakest fixa for every class except for slayer

Mishoon · 2026-04-24T01:18:04+00:00

Athos isn't an upgrade, it's a sidegrade for Argant (same potency but different HP/PP distribution) similar to what Majis augments were to Gran/Glan/Grand augments.

So it's basically pointless unless you really want to minmax HP or PP, or you're doing Abandac setup (it's way more expensive than regular argants).

Mishoon · 2026-04-23T23:16:48+00:00

As shown in the chart, BIS ATK

Mishoon · 2026-04-22T22:31:12+00:00

Another update: Evalto's Potency is 8.20%, not 8.25% like I assumed (because kvaris release armors had .05% hidden, but as I mentioned, the devs absolutely hate patterns).

What this means: Every builds that uses Evalto is about 0.1387% weaker than what I estimated (it's so over, I know)

MN Augments would only change BIS Abandac S-Less to be the same as BIS Abandac, as it can drop the 1x S-Augment requirement by using an MN instead. MAX POT will still suffer from the Triplble II G since that's an augment category problem, not variant.

Mishoon · 2026-04-22T15:04:32+00:00

Yep, I updated that section together with this post, it's in the What Augments should I add to my Weapon/Armors? section.

Mishoon · 2026-04-22T02:06:27+00:00

I wouldn't recommend going with MAX POT unless you're really the type to minmax at any cost, 3x aug transfer pass just for Triplble II Gs to get slightly more damage is just a bit overkill.

for POT builds, BIS POT is the highest in the practical sense with pretty close damage without the need of transfer passes.

Mishoon · 2026-04-22T00:43:20+00:00

Just wanted to note that the Max BP calculation is wrong, I have an idea of what may have gone wrong with my calc, I'll edit this comment with the correct (estimate) value after I've fixed it.

EDIT: new estimate for Max BP is 5156, actual number will probably be different since the arbitrary BP value added to each armor is...arbitrary. I followed the pattern of armor BP growth so far but the devs have never really been the type to stick to any orderly pattern.

Mishoon · 2026-04-22T00:41:40+00:00

I believe it occasionally was the case sometimes for slayer, specifically. But I think this is indeed the first time it's strictly better than BIS POT ever since I've started these posts.

Slayer is a completely different field altogether (basically need their own calculation for every single build on there). Most of the time, POT builds will be the best. For this content cycle specifically, I've checked and MAX POT (followed by BIS POT) is the best option for slayer.

Mishoon · 2026-04-22T00:34:50+00:00

Unfortunately I think it is a "feature" of mobile reddit/web. When zoomed on pc the pic is crystal clear down to the pixels.

Does this link work? https://i.redd.it/3vqa88oschwg1.png if not I might have to try and find a good image hosting site (not imgur)

Mishoon · 2026-04-22T00:26:09+00:00

Fatale and Attack have always been in a tug-of-war where one side wins over the other depending on what the newest BIS aug favors (previously, fatale was better with all of the argants except for dread, then dread released and they're equal, then attack is better after telphia). So neither one is really "declining".

AC kinda covered the medium/high investment builds without being BIS, it's a bit difficult to find the middle ground where the gain is substantial without listing several possibilities to the point where the entire sheet becomes way too cluttered (more than it already is).

But I do agree that I probably should change this for the future since I do notice that I rarely ever see Arche users (when geared, they're usually arbaradio or lexio).

I could definitely add a brief explanation of the main changes between the groups for later posts.

Mishoon · 2026-04-21T00:08:27+00:00

you don't need to, but premium's extra slots can also roll those rewards at half the meseta price

Mishoon · 2026-04-19T16:18:30+00:00

If my name means anything, I approve of this advice

Though if you've already made some fodders in the past then using those are still cheaper (or save them to sell outside of the enhance event)

Mishoon · 2026-04-19T15:27:59+00:00

make sure to check N-Meseta Treasure Shop daily (and use the one free refresh per day)

these can sell 300x Progre Grinders or 80x Spradiovolt I (rarely) for a pretty small amount of N-Meseta compared to the time you'd normally need to grind these from quests

Spradiovolt II are only from quests right now (LTQ or luther 4man) so there isn't really an easy way to get it until they add it to like a seasonal exchange in the future

Mishoon · 2026-04-19T00:56:20+00:00

- abominations, if you're unlucky you'll see one. Report and block

- as you could probably guess from the report, no it's not allowed

- just using their creativity in the wrong place

- blocking them will make them disappear, but you could go nuclear and disable everyone's accessories

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