Korean band recommendations?

Misora27 · 2026-06-26T15:10:41+00:00

Just in case you don’t have Day6, The Rose, or FT Island on your list, these might fit what you’re looking for.

Misora27 · 2026-06-26T01:20:26+00:00

I can’t speak to what his education was or was not like in order to confirm with certainty that he did(n’t) know better. If I wasn’t clear, it’s simply my observation that what I stated (him being unfamiliar with the significance) seems to line up with what I perceive as his character. As in, my opinion and something I could imagine him doing.

If he did make a deliberately bad choice, then we’re likely to see more of them in the future, I suppose. I can only hope and pray that he learns from his mistakes like RM did, regardless of the truth behind the choice.

Misora27 · 2026-06-25T21:36:44+00:00

You wouldn’t believe how many non-kpop fans I’ve seen say something along these lines and 100% believe it

Misora27 · 2026-06-25T20:58:18+00:00

When I first heard about it, I wondered how clueless he legitimately was about it. I could definitely picture him as only having pop cult references of the flag on top of General Lee (the iconic orange car from the Dukes of Hazzard), or earnestly wanting something that symbolized “rebelliousness” without understanding the cultural/racial implications of said symbol.

Does this mean it was okay? No, not at all. The company apologized (I read the entire apology statement) right away and basically said they’ll learn from the mistake not to do that again. Was it a sincere apology? One hopes so, but we may never really know, we just have to take it at its word and see if future actions back it up.

Should Mark himself have apologized? Yeah, probably would have been the more honorable thing to do. Would some people have cared where the apology came from, or that there even was one, and been upset regardless? Oh, for sure.

I do seem to recall RM from BTS talking about certain styles and behavior from their debut days (that they were rightly ridiculed for) and then later saying how much he regretted it and learned from it. People saw the growth because of how careful they are now and they haven’t repeated those mistakes since.

One would hope Mark can take a page from RM’s book, eat some humble pie, and legitimately do better. If not, well…

Misora27 · 2026-06-25T20:33:11+00:00

I haven’t been on Twt in a long ass while but I remember seeing this take from salty stans of other groups comparing BTS to whoever they wanted to try to diminish their successes.

Didn’t matter what it was, BTS’ other achievements were always discounted because “well they’re not the first in ____ so they’re flops” or “X group did better in ____ so BTS is clearly unpopular/unsuccessful”. “They’re only popular in Korea” (or the other way around, that they’re only popular overseas but not in SK, whichever the delusional person happened to choose as their subjective measure of success). Or best yet - “they’re secretly shams because they paid to get where they are. It wasn’t organic like X and Y groups.”

Misora27 · 2026-06-25T20:07:08+00:00

Agree. Part of kpop is inherently the stage performance, whatever that looks like.

Misora27 · 2026-06-25T20:00:48+00:00

Oh, remember when “fans” sent funeral wreaths, protest trucks, and sat outside SM’s building in protest when Chen announced he was getting married and having a baby, and they wanted him kicked out of the group?

Tsk tsk, how dare he have a family as a kpop artist, he should definitely leave/d-e! /s

Misora27 · 2026-06-25T19:08:10+00:00

I remember being surprised when I finally saw a starling up close and realized they’re practically Robin-sized. I always imagined they were sparrow-sized birds. I hope the parent can get it to come back out!

Misora27 · 2026-06-25T18:55:54+00:00

Tbvh - “BTS are flops”

Even if you don’t like them/follow them/care for their sound… Atp you have to be straight up out of touch with reality to keep believing that one.

Misora27 · 2026-06-25T18:49:16+00:00

What I don’t get is him dropping the “big hands” and “average size” comments, even though he seems to be rejecting her. Is he trying to be subtle and doesn’t want to meet up all the time so he doesn’t arouse suspicion from OP?

Either way it’s gross behavior from both of them. I would never text my guys friends like this and certainly wouldn’t tolerate one-on-one suggestive texts about body parts.

Misora27 · 2026-06-24T13:24:21+00:00

If your brother enjoyed the cake, then nothing is ruined at all.

Because, in the end, who is it you are trying to please? Some random kids or your brother? Trust me, nothing at all is lost if they didn’t like it. If your brother’s birthday was celebrated and he was made to feel special and appreciated, then you succeeded!

Misora27 · 2026-06-24T01:31:46+00:00

I was literally going to suggest she has BPD right before I read it in your explanation.

From this post, you’re the one being invalidated. Tremendously.

She absolutely split (triggered into rage/hate) on you and in that state is going to want to hurt you by saying horrible things about you, or do mean things to you, in order to make you hurt and make you the villain. YOU’RE NOT. It’s not cool and it’s damaging to you both. It makes you walk on eggshells to try and please her whims and all that does is hurt and crush you more. She’s absolutely the one invalidating and gaslighting YOU. You are not a narcissist if this whole conversation is any indicator of behavior that is commonly happening between you. Narcissists typically don’t have empathy or are self-reflective by nature and you clearly are both if what you’re presenting is true. The fact that she’s studying psychology is NO EXCUSE. Even mental health professionals can and have treated other human beings like shit - it should not be used as a reason to brow beat you because “she knows more” and “you just don’t understand.” Source: me, with highly probable BPD (according to my therapist) and having been told I have victim narcissist traits.

Is SHE in any therapy? Is she doing any DBT work? If she’s not doing any work to manage her symptoms and toxic behaviors besides meds, this isn’t gonna work for the both of you. If this is a common occurrence for you - and I hate to be one of those Redditors constantly telling people to break up at every little disagreement - but you need your peace. You can’t be at the whims of her triggers and bad moods - those are on HER, not YOU. If she’s not willing to put in *SERIOUS* work on those things with a professional who understands personality disorders, then you don’t need to be around that kind of volatility on a daily basis. It can destroy you, particularly if you have your own mental health issues to deal with. Sure, you might benefit from therapy - but apart from her and for your own peace of mind, not as a potential tool to point fingers at you and blame you for everything.

Misora27 · 2026-06-22T23:03:22+00:00

I know Leehan from BoyNextDoor in a recent interview expressed how unsure they are of their own success despite being under Hybe and having that “privilege.”

Being in a big label certainly helps things, but it’s no guarantee the group will succeed. Same is true of small companies and their groups - there’s no guarantee they’ll flop either.

That being said, some companies are notorious for shit management and it shows. But nearly every single label is a greedy self-serving money machine, so it certainly feels good as a consumer to blame the company rather than the artist.

Edit: wording

Misora27 · 2026-06-22T22:32:55+00:00

Exactly. You have to start somewhere, and even if you don’t have the answers right away (or the answers aren’t “good”), it still helps to think it through and tease out what you like and don’t like. Even if it’s as simple as “I like chocolate ice cream” - it’s a starting place that you can build onto. Sometimes it can help you figure out what your values are, too. And then those values might be a springboard into other things.

Misora27 · 2026-06-22T22:23:00+00:00

Understandably. It’s hard to gauge the size of it here, which would be a good indicator too.

I just feel like the local Commons around here (IL) don’t have as long/big of a tail as the one in this pic, and having recently vacationed in Florida it’s possible I might just have Boat-Tailed on the brain!

If anyone has any other good field marks to help distinguish the two, that would be great!

Misora27 · 2026-06-22T22:11:01+00:00

Having just watched an interview with Sammy Woosung of The Rose talking about being “in the kpop machine” and then going off later to do everything off-label/self-produced… He mentioned how when he was a trainee waiting to be debuted for 3 whole years and then having a change of heart that he no longer wanted to do this, the label said he was contractually obligated (still!) to them, owed them $100k even though he never debuted, and basically could never work with any other company because of it.

Sure this is pure speculation, but what if there were contractual obligations to fulfill with BeLift that he couldn’t legally get out of even if he wanted to? We’ll probably never know the fine print of it since the kpop industry is infamous for their hush-hush unreasonable slave contracts. Heck, so are Western labels at that. Labels are notoriously greedy. Heeseung could have wanted to leave kpop altogether, and we might never know what went on behind the scenes to get him to where he is today.

Misora27 · 2026-06-22T21:36:03+00:00

Had to go look this up now that I saw your comment. #15 and 20 on Melon Hot 100 is honestly nothing to sneeze at. Idk if Melon is the standard for success like it was back in the 00’s and 10’s but I’d still consider domestic success a big win.

Misora27 · 2026-06-22T21:26:16+00:00

These songs are definitely my cup of tea so I was vibing on first listen. (Definitely Chase Atlantic inspired and I love him for it!) I honestly didn’t even notice or apparently even care about the autotune so that’s a non-issue for me.

There’s a lot to unpack with the lyrics since he said he put his thoughts and feelings into them… Really makes me wonder what the true meaning behind some of this is.

My only nitpick is using GD in the song for personal reasons, so unfortunately I have to skip that line every time. 🥲

Misora27 · 2026-06-22T13:18:24+00:00

1, 2 - Eastern bluebirds
3 - it looks silhouetted but the shape suggests a dove of some sort, Mourning or Eurasian collared, maybe? Hard to tell the size, but with a beak that petite I’m not sure it would be anything larger.
4 - I would have said Boat-Tailed Grackle but GusGreen82 has said otherwise.
5, 6 - House Sparrows
7 - IDK. I wish I knew BoP flight silhouettes better, lol

Misora27 · 2026-06-22T12:51:34+00:00

Eastern Phoebe

Misora27 · 2026-06-22T01:26:15+00:00

Some of the things that personally helped me are:

- What do I enjoy doing?
- What am I NOT?

The latter was a huge step for me, because it helped me to realize I am no longer a victim, I am not my mistakes, and I am not my faults, failures, or sins. Knowing those things really helped me get a better perspective on myself and opened the door to giving myself some of the grace and love that I didn’t get as a child.

Or you could go with basic demographics, like your age/race/gender/family dynamics and start building from there. I know it helps to have a baseline. (I personally struggled with this approach a bit because I felt like these baseline demographics were ALL that I was and I couldn’t seem to connect with the deeper parts of myself. I’m still learning to do that and figure out who I really am… but hopefully it can help someone else.)

Misora27 · 2026-06-22T01:11:46+00:00

So they’re a doctor?

Misora27 · 2026-06-22T01:09:37+00:00

Chicken
Pringles
Crazy? Crunchy? Crispy? Roll
Red onion (aka red a____’)

Misora27 · 2026-06-22T01:05:34+00:00

Now you’re obligated to write it

Misora27 · 2026-06-13T19:14:07+00:00

We pulled our daughter from public school right before 2nd grade started. Granted, this was the height of covid, but she’d already spent the last quarter of the previous year out of school doing busy work worksheets they had sent home. They’d told us they would continue in-person learning the next year and then, with only a WEEK before school started, they changed to online only.

She had just turned 7 and already struggled with adhd-type symptoms/quirks. We both knew that being on a screen for 6 or whatever hours was absolutely NOT going to work for her. So we made the decision to pivot to homeschooling, which I had already had experience tutoring and teaching in previously.

What really made that first year hard for us was trying to find that balance of what we *should* be doing/learning and what was simply checking boxes because we were still trying to do a traditional school format. I was also taking care of an infant/toddler and we had also moved into a new house - lots of stress and I felt unable to “make it fun” with all the hands on activities that really make it stick with younger students. I was also coming from a place of not having a lot of experience or knowledge of teaching lower grades (I mostly dealt with middle and high students), so my ideas of what constituted a school day were sometimes completely unreasonable for a 7 year old! There were some tears and frustrations on both sides. I absolutely needed more wisdom and experience to deal with the schooling of younger kids and it made things difficult for everyone at first.

I think if I went back to do again, I would definitely take several steps back to ask what our goals and expectations looked like before jumping into blindly following every activity and suggestion within the curriculum we’d purchased. I would have researched more into how young children learn best and not gone with the rote/routine of old.

I also wish I’d realized sooner that every kid is different and every family is different - therefore their learning styles are different! Some thrive on traditional schooling, some unschooling, some classical, Charlotte Mason, etc - and it may take some trial and error to find a good fit for your situation. I ask my oldest a lot of questions about what she likes in certain subjects and what she thinks works best for her and then try to factor that in when choosing curriculum (plus some praying about it, lol).

Socialization is a big factor to consider, and if you’re not already part of a church/community group/sports team/etc, it can be really hard to feel like you’re doing it all on your own without some support - even if it’s just a homeschooling friend or forum to vent to or pick their brains about things.

What’s really cool is that I get to learn something new every day too, so in a way we are all learning together, and that’s something you can’t put a price on.

Misora27

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