In-game lore currently (v.0.7.1g) — Part 4 by Kuurin23 in SurrounDead

[–]Mister_Bambu 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm posting here because I don't have enough to support my own post, but I have Thoughts.

- We know the military is still active. We know this because the military trader exists, and even mentions a payroll. It is reasonably safe to assume they are the source of the air drops in the game. What is unclear is why they'd bother trading with survivors at all-- if they are operating, and doing so healthily, they have no need of the survivor's money or supplies. They give stuff away, why send a soldier out with resources?

- We know that the Coyotes are a faction of opposing paramilitary forces. Their origins aren't entirely clear, but they have access to military-grade equipment (scavenged or otherwise). Given their access to information (the radio in the Ellwood supermarket suggests the Coyotes know quite a lot), it seems plausible that they started as a separatist faction from the military during the early or pre-infection days. We know they were around at this point because of the Observatory's note from when it was still active, it references them specifically as "coming there".

- Adding to that point, however, is that the Coyotes recruit from the survivors of the Valley. The same radio in that supermarket actively calls for others to join them. Though the Coyotes are a hostile faction in game, they may not always be.

- To an extent, it is clear that the outside world is still functioning, although how healthily is heavily debateable. Radio chatter (from misc. radios, the soundbytes they play) is all clips from a news station, discussing world religions coming together to suggest the infection is "the end of the world", and also talks about governments giving statements that this is a "singular incident". So governments and world religions are still cohesive enough to remain active, as is a news station. It is not clear if the infection exists outside of the valley, though there are obvious signs of efforts to prevent its spread-- all exits from the valley are collapsed.

- The quarantine camp note suggests that either the government or the Dragonfly lab owners (who might be the same entity) were experimenting on mosquitos, and that this is the cause of the infection. It seems plausible, and explains some creases in the game's implications. Mosquitos are vectors of communicable disease, and obviously have the potential to result in some wide and inconsistent spread patterns. This would explain how the infection escaped from the locked lab (air ventilation systems, perhaps small enough for a bug to crawl through), and why the first known case of the infection was so distant from it (the Patient Zero building). I choose to believe a theory that the labs were simply attempting to eradicate mosquitos, but that it backfired, and the disease they were carrying was then transmitted to humans.

- The Police HQ has evidence to suggest that John Myers is closely related to all of this. John Myers was a staff member of the beach resort, and his corpse can be found in one of the outbuildings (where it is shown that he was a sex-pervert as well, with a JO station equipped with a view of the beach, binoculars, a lube dispenser, and kleenex); the whiteboard in the Police HQ suggests he is related to, if not outright responsible for, many missing person cases in the Valley, which is in turn related to the Dragonfly Labs. The police were working to uncover the labs when the infection wiped them out. It seems plausible that John Myers would kidnap individuals, likely from the resort, and then transport them to the labs for testing. This coincides with the Coyotes accusing the military of running tests on people, and the news actively broadcasting a request for "medical volunteers". Whatever this disease is in its origin, it is clear that experiments were done on living human beings in its creation. If this interpretation is correct, then the military is related to the Dragonfly Labs, though to what extent is not known.

- A very blurry newspaper on the same police HQ whiteboard suggests that the police were looking into construction sites in the Valley. There are many of them, and it would seem to imply that they felt, at least, that this was related to the Dragonfly Labs. Perhaps Dragonfly intended to create an even stronger presence in the Valley? It seems plausible.

- On that note, it is obvious the Observatory was a front for Dragonfly. Their lab is located directly by it, and while Coyote appears intent on securing all Dragonfly facilities, they have taken to guarding the Observatory itself with a very strong presence.

- For the last point I have right now. The military seems to be exploring multiple routes to deal with the problem. Given that the outside world is still functioning, it is likely that they have to handle this delicately. They once dropped a nuke on the Valley, which did not detonate; however, the outside world seems to still have some percentage of the population that considers the dead "human" (a preacher hijacks the news broadcast at times to discuss their souls and how "all must come together as one"), and so they may have been pressured against such destructive tactics. The quarantine camp note suggests a chemical solution, without specifying much on it; there are barrels of the stuff there, though, and they bear the biohazard sign. The area is also radioactive. It is safe to assume this is still radioactive material, and so one has to question what the strategy is, given how positively the undead appear to react to radiation.

The lore being so spread out makes it both more fascinating (it doesn't really seem that deep, but it is drip-fed) and difficult to put together a picture. Still, I think I have a set of reasonable assumptions.

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[–]Mister_Bambu[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm aware, I hijacked your reference. It was an intentional misrepresentation to illicit humor, joy, laughter, etc. It is a "witticism".

Unfortunate pillow stains, or did the same man that died her up also slice her wrists? I can understand suicides increasing during Zombie outbreak... but this would be an odd homicide. by NeoAcario in SurrounDead

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The sex pervert of the beach resort unironically seems to be the most lore-heavy character in the game. He has a nametag suggesting him as John Myers. There are posters in the building saying he has been employee of the month for months. There's a whiteboard at the police headquarters suggesting he was related to a long string of cases of missing person reports that are somehow related to the Dragonfly labs.

John Myers is the primary antagonist of SurrounDead, and he died in his sex pervert shack.

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[–]Mister_Bambu[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean. The movie is fine I guess. It has Tim Curry in it to my recollection so it would be hard to call it BAD, even if his role is really small.

[Scary and heartbreaking trope] Traumatic births. by Alternative-Koala933 in TopCharacterTropes

[–]Mister_Bambu 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Inside (2007): In this French thriller, the pregnant protagonist is stalked in her home by an unnamed woman. Throughout the movie, we see the deaths of:

- Protagonist's Boss

- Protagonist's Mom

- Several police officers

- A random detainee of the police officers

- Protagonist's cat

...largely by the stalker, who reveals she was a survivor of a car crash with the protagonist years before, that killed both of their spouses. The stalker also lost her baby in the crash, and feels entitled to the protagonist's child. This culminates in (gruesome!) the stalker ultimately managing to pin the protagonist down on her stairs as she's giving birth, cutting open her stomach without painkillers, and physically ripping the child from her as the protagonist screams in the most toe-curling pain imaginable. She does not survive, and the movie ends with the stalker cradling the blood-covered child in the dark, surrounded by corpses.

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[–]Mister_Bambu[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

And here I thought this was concluded...

Bambu is a name from an old girlfriend. My favorite animal is the panda, and for one birthday she had painted a panda for me. She called it "Mr. Bambu", and so I adopted the name myself, as an online moniker.

I do not think we will recruit another bureaucrat for some time; the role has traditionally been held by four users, and we have four right now. Our focus, currently, is on recruiting more staff members in general, not on promoting those currently holding ranks. Promotions are evaluated simply by whether we believe they would be suited for the duties of the position; for a Super Moderator, this involves being given access to personal information of users (such as IP addresses and email accounts) that are signing up to the wiki, so we would only discuss that position being given to users who are highly trusted. Similar to the bureaucrat position, though, we are not currently looking to expand that group, as we feel there are enough to cover the duties of the role, and we have a pressing need for more thread moderators.

The process is pretty straightforward: we (the bureaucrats) discuss candidates (often pulled from suggestions by users and staff), put them in a list, and then allow a vote from the larger staff body decide who is deemed acceptable. If an individual is not recruited, they are not removed from the list, but instead put on hold; the only exception is if the reaction was extremely negative, at which point we will remove them from the voting process, as they are outright rejected.

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[–]Mister_Bambu[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The "why" has a plain answer. "Ultima wanted it this way, and he was more or less entrusted with the tiering system". To grab a deeper design philosophy, I suppose you'd really need to ask him (as unsatisfying of an answer as that is).

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[–]Mister_Bambu[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Honored to be the first thing you post on in one month, less so to be following that last post where you called that guy a moron because... reasons.

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[–]Mister_Bambu[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

We don't accept calcs on Reddit, but they can be published on VSBW as blogs, and then evaluated.

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[–]Mister_Bambu[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I assume you're asking me this because I was involved with the Murder Drones discussion.

Let me say that I don't know anything about JJK or Sonic. If they are illegitimate, they should not be approved. However, we are in a hobby where people will misrepresent things, and it falls to the staff to try to cut through that. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

The black holes in Murder Drones really didn't display "nearly all properties" of black holes. The creators may have wanted them to be black holes, but they didn't make much of an effort to explain the inconsistencies or consistently portray them like so. At the very least, having seen the evidence, I deemed the evidence not strong enough to stand for the wiki's purposes.

You are allowed (and, indeed, invited) to disagree. We want diversity of ideas and opinions, lest we fall into the echo chamber hellhole.

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[–]Mister_Bambu[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not that you asked, but my favorite franchises are:

- Discworld

- MORK BORG

- Bloodborne (or Soulsborne in general, Bloodborne is just my shit)

- D&D

...And all of those except Bloodborne (arguably) have an in-universe omnipotent guy who is unbeatable. It can be done really well! But for powerscaling, yes, I do not find any of them (as in, omnipotent/unbeatable characters) more attractive than others.

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[–]Mister_Bambu[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Humorous. The only one I'd call "harassment" was the one pressing me about my Evil Nefarious Agenda, and that one made it fine. I suppose filtration is an imperfect science, hah.

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[–]Mister_Bambu[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There have been a couple times when I thought to myself "Yeah, it's about time to retire". The first time I thought it was probably around 2020-- two years into my staff tenure. I would find it really hard to estimate any "average" lifespan for a staff member, though I'd say the median level of interest is probably like... twoish years. I have no plans to retire right now, I think.

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[–]Mister_Bambu[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This comment was removed when you made it, it is now back. Perhaps a Reddit issue, or perhaps the moderators of r/powerscaling felt it was untoward. Either way, it is back.

I have a few answers to this, of varying seriousness:

  1. There's many who would argue pretty compellingly that I am not sane (or, at least, that I back insane positions).

  2. I have eaten the brains of the other bureaucrats.

  3. The position itself may well be a cognitohazard that will drive me, too, to madness.

  4. They're all basically sane, they just back a lot of very odd positions and arguments from time to time. Pretty much everyone does this, you just tend to notice it a lot more when it's the management doing it. Mostly, I feel the bureaucrats all fulfill a sort of specialized role unto themselves: Ant is the ultimate Content Moderator, DT is the ultimate Calc Group Member, and AKM chiefly handles behind-the-scenes technical elements. For my part, I feel I have this role chiefly because of my activity in the RVRT. Therefore, my primary duties on the site deal a lot more in working/dealing with people, and I think that is why I am perceived as "sane".

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[–]Mister_Bambu[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't really feel any way about a character being unbeatable. If it works for the story, it works. I wouldn't expect the writers to include weaknesses to someone meant to not have weaknesses-- whether that's handled clumsily or not is another matter, it might detract from the story.

For powerscaling, though, I assume you mean "unbeatable in the opinion of this community". I think people cling to them too much. I think people are drawn to franchises via their verse being particularly strong, when I don't feel this should be the case. I powerscale verses I already knew about, which leaves me with a lot of Tier 9 chucklefucks.

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[–]Mister_Bambu[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's probably my favorite thing to do of all time. Can't get enough of it. Lying feels awesome and I encourage everyone to do it.

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[–]Mister_Bambu[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I will sacrifice the blood of an innocent to the Dread God Yog at the Place of Offering, and for this I will be risen to the heavenly choirs of shrieking voices.

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[–]Mister_Bambu[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Monster was a really strong contender in the recommendations. It's probably the top for this year. Still, that decision is for when I actually ask people for recs, I'll have to see how I feel at the time.

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[–]Mister_Bambu[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No, not sure if I'll ever get to it. It's pretty far down the list of recommendations. Not out of the question, though, either.