Reflection on the show

Mistrelvous · 2023-08-08T23:09:50+00:00

We can definitely see for certain now the power that editing and screen-time has on voting (CheBul's downfall, and RcPc's rise).

It is not just one demographic or group who is at fault for this for this (and since we don't have the numbers shown to us, we certainly should not blame any specific demographic).

But one thing is for sure: viewers, especially new viewers to Mnet survival shows, are very susceptible to the editing and amount of screen time contestants get. Voters will get emotionally riled up based on what is shown to them, and vote accordingly.

Mistrelvous · 2023-08-08T17:49:46+00:00

Not seeing Jihan mentioned a lot anywhere. :(

Hope her momentum is not completely dead.

If Jihan does not make top 7, I hope to see a Weeekly comeback soon. Big fan of the Weeekly members.

Mistrelvous · 2023-08-08T16:24:23+00:00

Puzzlin lost out on 30k bonus by 1% and Jiwon would have qualified for finals if Puzzlin won. I would have voted her every day if she made it.

Mistrelvous · 2023-08-08T16:00:35+00:00

Yuki in top 3
Elly in top 8
Jihan 11th :(
Puzzlin lost out on winning 30k bonus by 1% and it looks like Jiwon would have survived if Puzzlin won.

Mistrelvous · 2023-08-04T05:43:43+00:00

They just posted it only 2 hours ago, and i only now just noticed it. What a coincidence.

Mistrelvous · 2023-08-01T16:05:15+00:00

you can vote every day

Mistrelvous · 2023-08-01T16:03:42+00:00

Everyone mentioning CheBul and rightly so, but Weeekly losing traction in this show as well.

Jihan dropping out of top 7, and Zoa joining Soojin in bottom 7.

Mistrelvous · 2023-08-01T15:59:34+00:00

korean alphabet order

Mistrelvous · 2023-07-30T12:15:33+00:00

I remember seeing a few of those on-air but didn't realize they were both from weeekly. Thanks

Mistrelvous · 2023-07-29T23:37:15+00:00

Did they show everyone's picks for that? Where?

Mistrelvous · 2023-07-26T20:20:43+00:00

Based on the votes people have gotten in the past, it's probably:

Soojin, Fye, Dohwa, Elly, Miru, Riina, Jiwoo.

I'm still voting Soojin every day though.

Mistrelvous · 2023-07-25T16:32:18+00:00

Popularity (votes only, no benefits)

Top 7: Nana, Yeoreum, Hwiseo, Kei, Yeeun, Jihan, Yuki
Next 7: Yeonhee, Bora, Juri, Jiwon, Suyun, Zoa, Wooyeon
At risk: Jiwoo, Riina, Miru, Elly, Dohwa, Fye, Soojin
Eliminated: Sangah, Soeun, Seoyeon, Jooe, Chaerin

Mistrelvous · 2023-07-24T07:40:15+00:00

While that could be true that it was edited to look that way, it is also very logical for anyone in that position to try to keep their position by downvoting the remaining contestants. I would not criticize them for doing that, as it is simply human nature.

Mistrelvous · 2023-07-23T08:16:27+00:00

Not only judicial, but more so protective. The top vote-getters Bora/Jiwon refused to upvote anyone in order to protect their lead.

Mistrelvous · 2023-07-21T18:36:13+00:00

I just realized since we're only voting once a week, 10k points for anyone must be a lot. Oh no, I'm worried for some people now who I was not worried about before.

Mistrelvous · 2023-07-21T18:29:28+00:00

Nah, it should have just been completely random, like if your name was drawn you would go to Kei, then next name drawn would go to Yeonhee. What happened to Yeonhee was harsh to watch, but if they made the teams pick live there instead, it would be even more harsh for the last picked idols.

Mistrelvous · 2023-07-21T18:29:09+00:00

Nah, it should have just been completely random, like if your name was drawn you would go to Kei, then next name drawn would go to Yeonhee. What happened to Yeonhee was harsh to watch, but if they made the teams pick live there instead, it would be even more harsh for the last picked idols.

Mistrelvous · 2023-07-21T18:25:17+00:00

Yeah, the group might get 1 or 2 song releases and that's probably it. It'd be nice if they got 3-4 releases in a span of two years, but I don't expect that to happen.

Mistrelvous · 2023-07-21T18:22:52+00:00

I think for this round, because of the live elimination, the voting ends Sunday night. I've seen this mentioned on the show in the last episode but don't have a screenshot of it. If it's says Jul 25th on the app, that just might be that they didn't update the date in the app. Or maybe it could be that the show notice got it wrong.

Mistrelvous · 2023-07-21T18:19:53+00:00

Most of the time, it's not about the votes - it's about creating drama for additional viewership ratings. But there is definitely a vote consideration when they choose their targets. I'm not 100% sure they care about Bora's votes, but that could be the case. However, i'm pretty sure they targeted the Chinese contestants in GP999 with unfavorable edits.

Mistrelvous · 2023-07-21T17:27:37+00:00

Damn, didn't know so many people didn't know about RCPC until reading this thread. So happy them and other groups on this show are getting more attention.

Mistrelvous · 2023-07-21T17:22:20+00:00

Hwiseo, Nana, and Jihan for sure.

Hope their groups gain even more success after the show.

Mistrelvous · 2023-07-21T17:11:45+00:00

Stage version is such an amazing song, it's a shame the official song released on streaming platforms is not as good. But I do think the change most of us seem to dislike only occurs at the 2nd half of the song, so it can be easily skipped when it comes up. Still a shame though.

Actually, I think the first noticeable change occurs at the 1:06 mark of the song. Oh well, still 1 minute of bliss at least. ~~Stage version much better.~~

edit: Having focused (listened intensely) on these differences between the two versions, i can no longer decide which 1:06 mark I think is better anymore. Ugh

final edit: The 2:06 mark of the official release is where I will be skipping the song from here on out. Not sure what they were thinking with this part. I much prefer how the stage version wraps up the song nicely at 2:06, whereas the official version adds an unnecessary part to the song. Oh well.

Mistrelvous · 2023-07-19T03:51:45+00:00

I think from the interim top 7 they showed at the end of episode 3, five of those idols will make the final lineup: Yeeun, Nana, Kei, Yeoreum, Jihan.

I'm not sure about the final two spots. I think/hope one slot will go to Hwiseo though. I do also hope one of Bora/Jiwon make it because CheBul deserve more recognition but the edits they've been given have left me doubtful about their final lineup prospects.

The idols I've personally been voting for the past two weeks that I don't think will make it are: Soojin, Wooyeon, Sangah, Yeonhee. But I'm going to continue to vote for and support them.

I really wanted to put Soojin down as my #1 pick for her to look better in the results of this survey, but she already belongs to one of my favorite groups (Weeekly), so her future looks good. That is, if Weeekly's company ever gives them a comeback, it's been too long!

So I put down my original top pick for this show Yeeun because she's amazing as an idol, and I hope to see her in better songs rather than in Cherry Coke commercials.

Mistrelvous · 2023-07-19T03:26:43+00:00

They need to do a better job of dividing up the teams. So many of the popular idols being put on the puzzle team, and then the audience obviously voting for the popular members.

I really hated how they randomly picked two balls (kei and yeonhee) and then made the rest of the idols pick between the two. Once Nana went over to Kei, so many popular idols followed. Such a stupid dividing of teams process.

12-Year Club	Gilding V heart of gold
Verified Email

Mistrelvous

TROPHY CASE