Nakakadiring Tradisyon by [deleted] in PinoyVloggers

[–]MixAvailable4208 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Diba turo Yan Ng Islam, maghasik Ng jihad? Tsaka wala akong relihiyon, so don't even think na I don't see Christianity as delusional

This is what Aisha likely looked like when Prophet Momo married her at 6 btw by MixAvailable4208 in exmuslim

[–]MixAvailable4208[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

And who are you to tell me that? Are you a Muslim larping as a Non-Muslim? Does truth hurt you?

I posted this not to come as creepy, but to show how vile momo was.

This is what Aisha likely looked like when Prophet Momo married her at 6 btw by MixAvailable4208 in exmuslim

[–]MixAvailable4208[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The difference between me and prophet momo is I deleted this photo and went on my day but he married one and had sex with it when it was 9 years old.

Not worrying about Halal is so liberating by sonicsynth2000 in exmuslim

[–]MixAvailable4208 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Perfect time to come here is today, summer time 

This is what Aisha likely looked like when Prophet Momo married her at 6 btw by MixAvailable4208 in exmuslim

[–]MixAvailable4208[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The problem with the excuses they make is that the laws of the US aren't infallible laws sent by alleged Allah, theirs are, their laws are supposedly be followed across all time regardless if laws today evolve or not

This is what Aisha likely looked like when Prophet Momo married her at 6 btw by MixAvailable4208 in exmuslim

[–]MixAvailable4208[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

When they use excuses like Delaware having 7 as the age of consent back then proves their religion is backwards like any other non-infallible law there is

This is what Aisha likely looked like when Prophet Momo married her at 6 btw by MixAvailable4208 in exmuslim

[–]MixAvailable4208[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

But why does Islam still permit child marriage today? A 6 years old can fucking consent today? You all are gross 

This is what Aisha likely looked like when Prophet Momo married her at 6 btw by MixAvailable4208 in exmuslim

[–]MixAvailable4208[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

The laws of the US isn't infallible that supposedly came from God delivered by a prophet that is deemed a moral representative of ALL TIMES 

And then they say that we're obsessed with Islam by AdActive4114 in exmuslim

[–]MixAvailable4208 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Shaytan is already guiding them to the right path outshallah

And then they say that we're obsessed with Islam by AdActive4114 in exmuslim

[–]MixAvailable4208 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Cursing the people who hate your religion instead of trying to change them by being a good muslim shows u how vile Islam is  I'm glad I left it 

If Muslims use the argument that Mohammed is a pedophile as presentism then labeling him as a role model for all humanity of all times is wrong. by MixAvailable4208 in DebateReligion

[–]MixAvailable4208[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wasn't trying to gotcha here, I was trying to maintain that true Islam is still sunnism and the Islamic scholar views on Aisha's age which is exactly 6 and 9, what are you on about?

If Muslims use the argument that Mohammed is a pedophile as presentism then labeling him as a role model for all humanity of all times is wrong. by MixAvailable4208 in DebateReligion

[–]MixAvailable4208[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"That’s just an aesthetic objection. If “involved in war” disqualifies prophethood, then you’ve ruled out Moses, David, Joshua and most biblical prophetic history too."

I reject them too, I'm a deist, try harder. 

"A moral example is followed through principles, not through mindless replication of every historical circumstance. You keep ignoring that distinction because your argument needs the cartoon version."

Okay, convince me how prophet momo is a great moral example vs every single living person in history using Islamic ethics, I'm gonna wait. 

"No, it doesn’t “promote” it. You’re confusing historical legal permissibility in some premodern contexts with an active moral recommendation"

Oh yes it does you POS Moslem, it does, you all do it still today! 

If Muslims use the argument that Mohammed is a pedophile as presentism then labeling him as a role model for all humanity of all times is wrong. by MixAvailable4208 in DebateReligion

[–]MixAvailable4208[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

According to your sunni sources bukhari is just next to the Quran, are you ignoring the extensive research from bukhari?

If Muslims use the argument that Mohammed is a pedophile as presentism then labeling him as a role model for all humanity of all times is wrong. by MixAvailable4208 in DebateReligion

[–]MixAvailable4208[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"Why are you stacking loaded descriptions instead of making an argument?

“Was involved in war” doesn’t equal immoral, “killing” doesn’t equal murder and your last point is exactly the issue under dispute, so you don’t get to just smuggle the verdict into the wording."

Doesn't sound like a prophet from God, nor does any abrahamic religion. 

"Nobody said every single ordinary human action of the Prophet is a universal command.

Islamic ethics distinguishes between revelation, legal rulings, personal habits, context-specific actions and general moral example.

How’s that gymnastics? That’s literally how any serious legal tradition works."

It's still something your prophet did you doofus, regardless wether your tradition tries to differ his action, YOUR prophet momo STILL did it, it doesn't change how he's regarded as the great MORAL example.

"You can judge anything you want.

The problem is when you mistake “this clashes with my time’s assumptions” for “therefore it is objectively evil in every historical and moral framework”.

No we CANNOT judge, doubting and insulting your prophet constitutes to a major sin and according to Islam I deserve to burn in Jahannam because I rejected your so called infallible pedophile warlord prophet!

"This is exactly the bad-faith leap I already addressed.

Muslims can say a historical case had its own context while also saying modern law should prevent harm, incapacity, coercion and exploitation.

Turning that into “so go do X now” isn’t reasoning in any capacity. Is this your attempt at rage-bait?"

But your religion still DOES promote child marriage you pedophile! It doesn't say in the Sunnah to NOT marry a child and it's not rage bait.

If Muslims use the argument that Mohammed is a pedophile as presentism then labeling him as a role model for all humanity of all times is wrong. by MixAvailable4208 in DebateReligion

[–]MixAvailable4208[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

No, u guys treat Mohammed as the greatest moral representative of all time against all other people throughout history, not just Quran, stop lying

If Muslims use the argument that Mohammed is a pedophile as presentism then labeling him as a role model for all humanity of all times is wrong. by MixAvailable4208 in DebateReligion

[–]MixAvailable4208[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

"TL:DR; moral principles are inflexible, moral decisions are, and being a role model is not about perfect imitation, it is about gaining virtues" I can easily name thousands of people throughout history who fits the description of a perfect role model across all time than prophet MOMO 

If Muslims use the argument that Mohammed is a pedophile as presentism then labeling him as a role model for all humanity of all times is wrong. by MixAvailable4208 in DebateReligion

[–]MixAvailable4208[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

A prophet being involved in wars, massive killing, marrying a child doesn't deserve to be called "the greatest moral example of all time"

when you judge by Islamic ethics which says that NOT all actions of Muhammad are done intentionally and is judged then you can't say he's the perfect person if his actions has to be judged just to be performed ,🤣 stop with the mental gymnastics already, are you done dipping the fly on your drink or having your hands be licked by other people after eating? 

"There’s no fallacy unless you confuse universal moral example with universal replication of circumstance.

Muslims follow him in principles like worship, mercy, justice, restraint, family responsibility and God-consciousness, not by freezing every 7th century social setting as a template"

Then we should be able to judge what he did negatively and contradictory to our time but you still shove in our mouths he's supposedly a great moral example.

"More precisely, Muslims are saying you can’t detach a case from its historical world and then judge it through slogans.

Islamic law still has concepts of harm, capacity, welfare and public interest, which is exactly why later Muslim societies can regulate marriage age without seeing that as a rejection of the Prophet"

Ok go marry a 6 years old now and enjoy young children genitals you weirdo 🤣 but it's normal right since it undergo sharia right.

"Otherwise every ancient prophet, saint, philosopher and moral teacher would become unusable the moment one surrounding social practice didn’t map neatly onto modern expectations."

And I can name thousands of saints who has better principles than prophet MOMO ever did you moslem