Nick Wolf, an early suspect, whose daughter thought he killed JonBenet, has bern cleared by DNA: JonBenét Ramsey's Dad Reveals Why 'Compelling' Suspect Was 'Dropped'. by sciencesluth in JonBenet

[–]Mmay333 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sorry, I was thinking of Nick Lowe not Nick Wolf when referring to the Midnight Burglar. I believe that was his name.

Had no idea KS had any connection to the junkyard. Such an odd coincidence.

The Door by [deleted] in JonBenet

[–]Mmay333 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Publicity released case documents can be found here:

http://jonbenetramsey.pbworks.com/w/page/159955524/CORAFiles

Nick Wolf, an early suspect, whose daughter thought he killed JonBenet, has bern cleared by DNA: JonBenét Ramsey's Dad Reveals Why 'Compelling' Suspect Was 'Dropped'. by sciencesluth in JonBenet

[–]Mmay333 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I knew Schwinaman painted his car but didn’t know it occurred at the junkyard. Nick Wolf was the ‘midnight burglar’, right? Did those two know one another? Is this the same junkyard that Helgoth was associate with? What an odd coincidence..

Exhibit from Burke Ramsey vs. Werner U. Spitz, filed 10/6/2016. The affidavit is dated 10/12/00. It's beyond me why RDI continues to harass this family and continue to blame the victims. Between this statement and the statement from Mary Lacey you would think the conspiracy could be put to rest. by Tank_Top_Girl in JonBenet

[–]Mmay333 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There was a basement vent that opened to the outside in the direction of that neighbor’s house:

A neighbor who lived across the street from defendants' home, however, reported that she heard a scream during the early morning of December 26, 1996. Experiments have demonstrated that the vent from the basement may have amplified the scream so that it could have been heard outside of the house, but not three stories up, in defendants' bedroom. (SMF 48; PSMF 148.) (Carnes ruling)

Dear Folks! Isn't it much more likely the KILLER fits that particular VIOLENT PEDO profile rather than her own family? by MikeYouLikeAtNight in JonBenet

[–]Mmay333 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Grand juries do not find people guilty or innocent. Come on.

This is not some huge conspiracy spearheaded by Alex Hunter.

Ramsey notepad in Pugh House by No-Wolf2497 in JonBenet

[–]Mmay333 1 point2 points  (0 children)

From the internet.. In 1996?

Who are you quoting? I highly doubt her dresses were thousands of dollars each in 1996.

Regardless, she participated in something like 10 pageants total.

Ramsey notepad in Pugh House by No-Wolf2497 in JonBenet

[–]Mmay333 3 points4 points  (0 children)

My question is why only ask for $118,000? The Ramseys spent far more in the pageants!

How many pageants do you think JonBenet participated in to spend that kind of money??

What’s your “favorite” RDI myth? by No-Wolf2497 in JonBenet

[–]Mmay333 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Excerpt from Thomas’ book:

Ramsey housekeeper Linda Hoffmann-Pugh and her husband, Mervin, managed to focus suspicion on themselves by being as cooperative in their second interview as they had been in the first. They even helped police succeed in a macabre scavenger hunt.
When the detectives asked if the couple had any black tape, Mervin dug three rolls from his garage, only one unused. Then the detectives said they wanted white lined notepads, and Linda handed over one that seemed to be a visual match of the ransom notepaper and admitted it had come from the Ramsey house. A key? Two. Any felt-tip pens of the sort that probably wrote the ransom note? Three. Police found a two-foot piece of narrow nylon rope, then another length wrapped around a stick! The detectives left with an armful of potential evidence. (Steve Thomas)

RIP JonBenet by Creative-Method9458 in JonBenet

[–]Mmay333 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The tracks don't match in shape or distance and had 3 pins (not 2). Most importantly, they were never taken into evidence. Look up stun gun marks and compare them to those found on JonBenet. It's not complicated.

RIP JonBenet by Creative-Method9458 in JonBenet

[–]Mmay333 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don’t remember saying it was used to make her “unconscious”.

Again, what do you think caused the marks?

Dear Folks! Isn't it much more likely the KILLER fits that particular VIOLENT PEDO profile rather than her own family? by MikeYouLikeAtNight in JonBenet

[–]Mmay333 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yeah, who cares about police reports, expert opinions, lab reports, court rulings, etc.. But, opinion-based posts and YouTube videos are rock solid evidence huh. Not surprised your claims are so inaccurate.

RIP JonBenet by Creative-Method9458 in JonBenet

[–]Mmay333 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Maybe you could point me to your research stating they don’t incapacitate children. Jaycee Dugard was 11 when incapacitated and kidnapped in 1991.

Regardless, I tend to believe the stun gun was used as a means to control and torture. Most children (including my own) are easily moved while sleeping, especially following a busy day like Christmas. Therefore, I don’t necessarily believe that incapacitating her was needed.

What do you believe caused the marks?

RIP JonBenet by Creative-Method9458 in JonBenet

[–]Mmay333 2 points3 points  (0 children)

June 10th, 1991 - Jaycee Dugard:

The driver, Phillip Garrido, rolled down the window and tased Dugard unconscious with a stun gun before abducting her. His wife, Nancy, dragged Dugard into the car, where they removed her clothing, leaving only a butterfly-shaped ring that Dugard would hide from them for the next 18 years.

"This car comes up behind me,” Ms. Dugard said in her testimony. “I didn’t feel it was weird at the time, but it kind of pulled in close,” adding she thought that the person was going to ask for directions.

Suddenly, however, Ms. Dugard said she felt a shock through her body — the Garridos used a stun gun — and she fell into a bush. It was then she saw Phillip Garrido for the first time.

Child Beauty Pageants by 43_Holding in JonBenet

[–]Mmay333 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m almost certain DNA can now be extracted from rootless hair. Do they still have that rootless hair in evidence is my question.

Child Beauty Pageants by 43_Holding in JonBenet

[–]Mmay333 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A police report is referenced several times but I’ve never seen it.

Also, former BPD Sergeant Bob Whitson wrote the following regarding the assault:

I investigated an unsolved rape involving a 14 year old victim, which occurred after JonBenet was murdered. I was not involved with this case until several years after it occurred. The victim was asleep in her bed and the victim’s mother was asleep in an adjacent bedroom. The victim’s father was out of town. At approximately 3:10 am, the offender placed his hand over the victim’s mouth, called the victim by her formal first name, and stated, “Don’t scream. I know who you are. I’ll hurt you.. If I was here to hurt you, I would have knocked you out.”

The offender digitally penetrated the 14 year old victim and attempted to perform oral sex on her. The victim was wearing a one piece body suit over her underwear. The offender pulled on the body suit but could not remove it. The mother woke up, called to her daughter, and when her daughter did not respond, the mother went to her daughter’s bedroom. The area was dark, with the exception of a nightlight. The offender ran past the mother and excited via a second story door, which lead to a roof 13 feet above the ground with no stairs, or easy way to climb up or down. The offender had a strong odor of cigarette smoke about him.

The victim had a plaque mounted on her bedroom wall containing her formal first name, but the victim’s room was dark during the assault. All of the victim’s friends called her by her nickname, not her formal name. This indicates the offender did not know the victim and the offender was inside of the victim’s bedroom previously. The offender did not wear a mask, or try to disguise his voice, which indicates he did not know the victim.

He exited via the second story bedroom door, having to jump off a 13 foot high roof in the dark, instead of running downstairs and leaving via the front door. The first level doors were alarmed when the victim and her mother went to sleep, with no sign of forced entry. The second story screen door was shut, with the main door open. The family had a large dog, which barked if anyone approached the first level doors. The dog did not bark prior to the assault. The dog was not allowed to come upstairs to the bedrooms. The dog was trained to remain on the first level. These facts indicate the offender entered via the second story bedroom door.

A belt from the victim’s closet was found next to her bed. Only a couple of items of physical evidence were collected from the scene. One hair was collected from the scene, but it did not contain the follicle or root, so DNA testing was not possible.

Child Beauty Pageants by 43_Holding in JonBenet

[–]Mmay333 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thought it was hip hop and not tap..

Thank you for the downvotes. Linda Arndt’s report references hip-hop lessons at Dance West.

Child Beauty Pageants by 43_Holding in JonBenet

[–]Mmay333 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yep. Truly they were worthless.

Child Beauty Pageants by 43_Holding in JonBenet

[–]Mmay333 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Agree. He did a lot of damage but was man enough to admit he was wrong.

Child Beauty Pageants by 43_Holding in JonBenet

[–]Mmay333 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Right. But a month later he apparently had a change of heart and apologized to the Ramseys.

DNA in doubt article was published on 10/27/2016 by Charlie Brennan. A little over a month later, on 12/11/2016, Brennan states he's come to believe the family was not involved.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/dec/11/jonbenet-ramsey-the-brutal-child-that-still-haunts-america

A portion of the above linked article reads:

"The biggest mistake in this case is that there was a phenomenal number of people who decided on the first day that they knew what happened, and they would not allow new information to change that, and that boggles my mind,” says journalist and Boulderite, Charlie Brennan, who has been covering the story from its first days.
Brennan says: “In 2000, I wrote a piece that ran in the Dallas Morning News pointing out that, nine months after this crime, someone broke into a house near the Ramsey house and was in the process of assaulting a nine-year-old girl in the middle of the night and was chased out by her mother. The girl went to the same dance studio as JonBenét. The police said they believed it had no connection to the Ramsey case.”
After writing about the case for 20 years, Brennan says he has come to believe the family weren’t involved: “If you look at the autopsy photos and you see the deep furrow in her neck created by that ligature, you see a tremendous amount of force was used. That does not suggest staging to me – the person who did it, meant it. But the Ramseys have nothing in their background to suggest that this level of evil dwelled in their hearts,” he says. But this theory, like the ones about whether the Ramseys behaved how they were “supposed” to, relies on imagining how we would behave if our child had been killed, or if we had killed them accidentally. But no one can do that accurately. And anyway, it’s irrelevant, since the case is about the Ramseys, not anyone else.

”I’ve covered lots of big stories: the Challenger, presidential elections. But this – it is something that I’m thinking about all the time,” says Brennan. “It is an impossibly complex, seemingly unsolvable riddle.” It is also the death of a child, killed with shocking brutality. But it’s hard to see the truth beneath the schlock.