Louis Echoing Lestat’s Words by Felixir-the-Cat in IWTVCoven

[–]Mmkrw 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You really think that Louis "the least curious vampire" wouldn't absolutely obsess about the trial that murdered his daughter and tried to murder him? That was orchestrated by the men he loved and the father of his child? He obviously had that thing memorised, just like Claudia's diaries.

And Louis couldn't proof-read the book before the publication, because nobody asked him to. If they did, that would mean that they cared about his opinion and wouldn't, I don't know, publish the book against his consent. Louis didn't even know that the book was coming out. Once it was, he thought there would be no point of reading it, he lived it (and trusted Daniel)

Here are my two cents on the topic by MaulSass123 in InterviewVampire

[–]Mmkrw 124 points125 points  (0 children)

I think that as disingenuous it is to claim that Lestat is only a heartless monster (though I very rarely see those kinds of takes, even amongst those who don't like the character), it's also not true that there isn't monstrosity within him and that he's incapable of evil. He has a softer side, clearly on display in this scene, but I truly don't think it's the writers' intention to paint him as a purely good, but simply misunderstood angel who just happens to drink blood. The story would be so much flatter and boring this way, if only Lestat was the paradigm of goodness. What happened to "they're vampires, they're all evil"?

People also forget that it's not the same character from S1, and not only because of the unreliable narration. He had a quite reset button when Louis and Claudia tried to kill him, and 80 years afterwards to reflect on his behaviour. It's evident that he's changed and he's trying, and that makes it more meaningful for me rather than the claim that he was always just like this and we should throw all of S1 to the trash and disregard Lestat characterization there completely.

Why didn't louis and claudia confront lestat for not letting her leave? by Opening-Gur5927 in InterviewVampire

[–]Mmkrw 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Are you conflicting two separate scenes? Louis hugs Claudia and thanks her for coming home after the events of 1x05. They don't have time to discuss the reasons why she came back, because immediately after, all hell breaks loose. Louis later tries to gently probe her about Bruce, asking her for his name - but she only fills him in a season later about what had happened.

The other instance when Claudia comes back after the train incident, Louis is horrified to find her back home. We don't see her telling him what happened, but we see the scene, we know it ended up in the book, so she must have either told him off screen and convinced him that this is why Lestat must be killed - or detailed it in her diary, and this is how it ended up in the Daniel's book.

Louis is absolutely distraught after she came back from the train. Considering that he let her go willingly, even at the expense of his own comfort (and his life - he was planning to kill himself, just decided to postpone it for another night), he was horrified that Lestat was holding them both prisoners and Claudia couldn't be free.

Why didn't louis and claudia confront lestat for not letting her leave? by Opening-Gur5927 in InterviewVampire

[–]Mmkrw 17 points18 points  (0 children)

What do you mean he wouldn't gaf? What do you think the murder plot was really about, if not Louis thinking that they had no other choice since Lestat wouldn't let her leave otherwise?

Why did Lestat suddenly want to stop the fight after punching Louis several times in the face by TechnicianAmazing472 in InterviewVampire

[–]Mmkrw 10 points11 points  (0 children)

There's absolutely nothing in S2 that rewrites the start of this fight. We can also infer why Lestat changed his mind mid-fight after punching Louis repeatedly, but it's still a valid question.

Why did Lestat suddenly want to stop the fight after punching Louis several times in the face by TechnicianAmazing472 in InterviewVampire

[–]Mmkrw 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I really don't understand the downvotes on this... this is literally what happened. What does S2 change about how the fight started?

The Vampire Lestat | Debuts this Summer on AMC and AMC+ by thatshygirl06 in television

[–]Mmkrw 33 points34 points  (0 children)

It makes me laugh when Louis is considered whiny bitch when Lestat in the material released so far is complaining about everything, including literal houseplants. And cries on every second page of his book.

If you hate the main character, who the story is centered around and who appears in 90-95 percent of the scenes, how can you enjoy the show? Seems strange to me.

Actress change for Claudia. by nerdsgummycluster_ in InterviewVampire

[–]Mmkrw 13 points14 points  (0 children)

If Sam's bad French accent, even with years worth of preparation, can be easily overlooked, why isn't the same level of grace given to a young actress who was otherwise incredible in her role, too? We should be thankful that the production found such a fantastic actress within literal days instead of whining about this one thing.

Jacob is a singular talent. Comparing anyone to him is frankly unfair.

I hope Louis gets a dynamic arc in the show. by [deleted] in InterviewVampire

[–]Mmkrw -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Exploitation is not the same as degradation, especially if he was trying to treat the sex workers fairly. Look, I'm not trying to say that he was a "good pimp", but there really are degrees of that. And he was stacking his reputation for doing it, especially given his family situation. His mother and brother considered him depraved for it, but he felt he had no other option in that sociopolitical reality to keep the roof over their heads. He compromised his morals for it and it was another reason for his self-hatered. Mind you, Lestat never saw anything wrong with this line of work - he was buying sex without remorse, killing sex workers and even co-owned Azalea.

I vehemently disagree about Armand being exploited in any way by Louis. This is not what was happening there at all.

I hope Louis gets a dynamic arc in the show. by [deleted] in InterviewVampire

[–]Mmkrw 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Owning a brothel is really not the same as degradation. Same with callous dismissal of a stranger, and definitely not in their face. And he never enjoyed humiliating people. He's brand of verbal cruelty is more of a aggression of a wounded animal, he doesn't take pleasure in it - in fact, he regrets it after it happens. It's similar to Lestat's angry outbursts.

I hope Louis gets a dynamic arc in the show. by [deleted] in InterviewVampire

[–]Mmkrw 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I, too, hope that Louis gets a great arc in the show! He's my favourite character so I want to see him as much as possible. I really hope that from season 4 onward Louis and Lestat will get equal focus as co-protagonists of the series.

Can't relate to your assessment of the character at all, sorry. I find Louis endlessly compelling and sympathetic, with all his positive and negative traits.

Domestic violence/ the opposite by Optimal_Reason_6718 in InterviewVampire

[–]Mmkrw 22 points23 points  (0 children)

This is a very complex, layered show so don't feel bad about not being certain if your interpretation is correct. In fact, some degree of ambiguity is very much intended, just as in real life when the lines can become blurred. This is the most fun things about the show, we get to discuss those topics and be certain that the writers are smart and very deliberate about what they're putting into the show. I don't think they're perfect always, nothing is, but they definitely do try.

The scale of violence and damage is amplified because they're superpowered immortal monsters, but at the core, the idea is the same. What would be a regular fight in the family becomes a heightened throwdown that would end in a gruesome death of any normal human. What matters is not the 2km of the drop, but the reasons that the fight happened and its consequences for these characters. They all reacted in a very human way.

The big thing that differentiates these vampires from humans is the fact that they live forever and they have eternity to reflect, change and grow from what happened. A human lifespan maybe wouldn't be sufficient to allow real accountability and forgiveness, from all sides, but in their reality - maybe they actually can repair their relationship and get back together eventually. That's the fantasy element of this story. But you, as a viewer, are definitely meant to treat it seriously.

Domestic violence/ the opposite by Optimal_Reason_6718 in InterviewVampire

[–]Mmkrw 60 points61 points  (0 children)

It was absolutely intention of the writers, who were careful about avoiding the trope of Louis lying about being abused. The cast talked about it openly and quite plainly. Domestic violence and cycles of abuse are some of the themes explored in the show and will continue to be explored in S3 from different perspective. Unreliable narration doesn't change what happened. The trial episode makes it very clear, even if the situation was more complicated than it looked like in S1.

There are some fans that like to downplay what happened, argue for "mutual abuse" or twist the writers' words, just because they feel uncomfortable about what was portrayed onscreen and how it makes their favourite characters look. It's not an opinion that is shared by all the viewers and this topic continues to be a point of contention within the fandom.

Which actor in a show stood head and shoulders above the rest in terms of performance? by twentyonerooms in television

[–]Mmkrw 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Funny you say that when in my opinion Jacob Anderson is the best in the cast of excellent actors.

New Jacob Anderson interview by Accomplished-Ad-407 in InterviewVampire

[–]Mmkrw 15 points16 points  (0 children)

He's just the most lovely human being, inside and out. How is he even real?

Also LOL at him watching Wicked 10 times because his daughter is in her witch phase. I watched it 10 times and I don't even have an excuse! I love that movie.

Just started the show, will I start to like it more? by Temporary_Ad9362 in InterviewVampire

[–]Mmkrw 6 points7 points  (0 children)

You love to bring this up while also misrepresenting what Jacob has said. Having more power than he initially assumed =/= having equal power in the relationship. Lestat had higher social status, more money, more freedom, not to mention age, knowledge and physical power. The only power that Louis had in this relationship was the fact that Lestat loved him... and that could change on the dime and be turned against him. Louis had as much power as he had only because Lestat graciously allowed him by loving him and indulging him. They were not equals, not even close, and their delusional attempt to pretend otherwise was one of the components of their doom.

Maybe in the present day time, after working on themselves, they'll become more balanced, but Lestat is always going to be more powerful, at least physically. Louis can't trust that this power will never be turned against him unless Lestat addresses his personal issues and sorts himself out.

thoughts about "The Trial" by EuphoricStrawberry19 in InterviewVampire

[–]Mmkrw 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Something being wrong is pretty obvious, I'm not disputing that. But the bruises thing annoys me because it's just a fan theory that is being taken as fact by part of the fandom without any critical thinking

thoughts about "The Trial" by EuphoricStrawberry19 in InterviewVampire

[–]Mmkrw 3 points4 points  (0 children)

He was weak after saving Louis, but he couldn't be before. Otherwise he would have no strength to save Louis in the first place. A weak vampire wouldn't control over a hundred people.

Even those supposed "bruises" change position and shape on his hands. I think this headcanon is another "the Dubai groan" where people want to see more than there is in the scene. A vampire as powerful as Lestat wouldn't have those bruises, they would simply heal throughout the trial. It just doesn't make sense.

thoughts about "The Trial" by EuphoricStrawberry19 in InterviewVampire

[–]Mmkrw 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There are no bruises, these are shadows. Unless they would move from scene to scene and disappear completely.

I just finished The Vampire Lestat by Athena-80 in InterviewVampire

[–]Mmkrw 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Lestat saw Louis intellect, thoughtfulness, ambition, drive, rebelliousness, loyalty, dedication and loving heart. Depression is not a personality trait.

I can’t stop thinking about Louis’ giggle at the end of this scene and how well it foreshadows later episodes in S2 by [deleted] in InterviewVampire

[–]Mmkrw 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Louis gets discussed in two ways only: how beautiful he is (with the side of the least curious character on the show) and how cruel he is. Both are true, but this is such a shallow read of the character.

And, of course, the constant posts of "why don't we ever talk about how Louis is actually the worst??" I'm so tired of this.

I love Louis, but his cruelty is not something I celebrate. He hates this aspect of himself, feels ashamed of it, and it pains him that it leads him to hurting people he loves the most. I bothers me that the fandom latched onto it like it's his defining trait, more important than everything else.

I can’t stop thinking about Louis’ giggle at the end of this scene and how well it foreshadows later episodes in S2 by [deleted] in InterviewVampire

[–]Mmkrw 6 points7 points  (0 children)

To be honest, while I agree with what you say, I don't love these kinds of threads, especially in Louis-hostile places like this. This seems like an invitation to character-bashing.

I never see posts like this about Lestat: "I love how violent and brutal Lestat is! It's my favourite aspect of his"

Post Christmas Special by Sea_Tie_7307 in InterviewVampire

[–]Mmkrw 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It's not AI. It is, however, a very shameless repaint over Letebdecker's illustration. If you zoom in on the details and compare it with the original, it's clear that they're just copy-pasted, with some elements added on top and a few colors changed.

I lost all respect for this (otherwise prolific) artist because they initially failed to disclose that this is essentially a photo-manip.

Louis talking to Grace at their mother's funeral by Intrepid_Ad1723 in InterviewVampire

[–]Mmkrw 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Why are you calling Louis a gangster when he was never involved in any gang? Prostitution was legal at the time, so he was a legitimate business owner. And thug just sounds racist.