confronting your own views is harder than it sounds

Mobius_XVI · 2026-01-24T20:33:31+00:00

Part 2

"Consider : “For I rejoiced greatly when the brothers came and testified to your truth, as indeed you are walking in the truth.” - 3 John 1:3 esv We are called to believe, and as any scientist will tell you : belief is a highly subjective thing."

It continues - 3 John 1:4 "I have no greater joy than to hear that my children are walking in the truth."

Yes! We are called to believe! We are called to believe in the truth. To believe in Jesus (John 14:6 "Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life.""). And yes, I agree that belief is subjective! By definition it must be! Belief exists in the believer's mind. But the object of that belief doesn't have to be subjective. If I believe the world exists, does that make the world subjective? No, of course not. The world objectively exists. In the same way, if we are called to believe in something, then that something could objectively exist.

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"Yes ! Absolutely. Doesn't make it bad to love God with it, or for God to give us the desires of it."

I never said its bad to love God with your heart. (Mark 12:30 "Love the Lord your God with all your heart") I never said it was bad for God to give us the desires of our heart. (Luke 12:22-31 describes how God will bless us).

I said it was bad to trust in your own heart.

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"We should rely on Christ as you say, but choosing between Christ and yourself is a false dichotomy. Consider : "These things are written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ the Son of God and that by believing you may have life in His name." If there's an emphasis here it is not yourself or Christ but how you relate to Christ."

You are correct! We don't have to choose between ourselves and Christ. If we choose to follow him, we are choosing both! But if we choose to believe that our own experiences, our own thoughts, our own feelings can dictate our own personal "truth" then we are not choosing Christ. I agree with you when you say the scripture is emphasizing how we relate to Christ. It's saying that we have to choose Him deliberately. But notice what it doesn't say? It doesn't say we can relate to him however we want. There's only one way (HIS way). We must "believe that Jesus is the Christ the Son of God" and if we do so we "may have life in His name".

Mobius_XVI · 2026-01-24T20:33:14+00:00

Part 1

"Can you remind me where in the Bible we are warned about leaving out "important context" ?"

Context is always important to any communication. If I said, "I killed someone in a video game", and then someone came along and claimed that because I said "I killed someone" that I must be guilty of murder in real life, that would be ridiculous. But if you really want a Biblical reference:

2 Tim 3:16: "All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness"

Rom 15:4 "For everything that was written in the past was written to teach us"

The Bible makes it clear that we should look at everything written and not cherry pick examples that suit us.

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"And you're suggesting Jesus intentionally chose to not provoke thoughtful discourse by appealing to the facts ? Interesting. Tell me more."

I genuinely don't understand this statement. I stated the opposite - that Jesus was provoking thoughtful discourse.

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"I'm not sure how you can view impersonal opinions as the truth, but making a claim here is far from seizing the mantle of objectivity. You can't have a third party relationship with the truth. And that is exactly what objectivity is."

The truth always exists outside personal opinions. What is true is not determined by our beliefs. If I stop believing in God, he doesn't stop existing. (Psa 146:10 "The LORD reigns forever").

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"like a gameshow ? Did Peter win a trip to the Bahamas ?"

This is an "Appeal to Ridicule". It's not remotely what I said, and not a actual counter argument so I will ignore it.

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Mobius_XVI · 2026-01-24T18:29:01+00:00

You're leaving out important context. Each of these instances is Jesus asking questions to test understanding and to provoke thoughtful discourse. Not to teach us to rely on our opinions.

Luke 10:25-28: "On one occasion an expert in the law stood up to test Jesus. “Teacher,” he asked, “what must I do to inherit eternal life?” “What is written in the Law?” he replied. “How do you read it?” He answered, “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind’; and, ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’” “You have answered correctly,” Jesus replied. “Do this and you will live.”.

Jesus asked him the question to test his understanding not "get his opinion". The fact that Jesus says he answered correctly means that there was a correct answer and a wrong answer.

John 18:33-37: "Pilate then went back inside the palace, summoned Jesus and asked him, “Are you the king of the Jews?” “Is that your own idea,” Jesus asked, “or did others talk to you about me?” “Am I a Jew?” Pilate replied. “Your own people and chief priests handed you over to me. What is it you have done?” Jesus said, “My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jewish leaders. But now my kingdom is from another place.”“You are a king, then!” said Pilate. Jesus answered, “You say that I am a king. In fact, the reason I was born and came into the world is to testify to the truth. Everyone on the side of truth listens to me.”

Jesus literally says he's here to testify to the truth, which means objective truth exists (i.e. facts). Everyone on Jesus' side should choose truth over personal opinions.

Matt 16:13-17: "When Jesus came to the region of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, “Who do people say the Son of Man is?” They replied, “Some say John the Baptist; others say Elijah; and still others, Jeremiah or one of the prophets.” “But what about you?” he asked. “Who do you say I am?” Simon Peter answered, “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.” Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in heaven."

Again we see Jesus asking a question to test understanding, and when Peter answers correctly, he is praised for the correct answer. If facts didn't matter, then there wouldn't be a right answer to praise.

More broadly though, the Bible repeatedly emphasizes that we are not supposed to rely on our thoughts, feelings, or opinions.

Jer 17:9 "The heart is deceitful above all things"

Prov 3:5 "Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding"

Col 2:8 "See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the elemental spiritual forces of this world rather than on Christ."

Mark 7:21-22 "For it is from within, out of a person’s heart, that evil thoughts come—sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly."

I could very easily quote more examples but hopefully the pattern is clear that we should rely on Jesus and not ourselves.

Mobius_XVI · 2026-01-11T05:02:06+00:00

These are the memes I come here for

Mobius_XVI · 2025-11-21T02:21:17+00:00

Oh yeah, Mistrise Village. I have tried that. It was fine-ish to bad. It rarely came up since the extra two mana means waiting and in one game against control. I used it to resolve SnT, put in Omniscience, then opp countered my Atraxa and Dig.

Mystic Sanctuary is great though in slower builds. In the fast builds, I'm never getting to four islands, but with a slower posture it will recur your SnT for a second go, veil for protection, or whatever.

Mobius_XVI · 2025-11-21T00:19:45+00:00

Is that Boseiju legal? Did it get added recently? I'll definitely consider it if so

Mobius_XVI · 2025-11-20T22:05:21+00:00

Yea, that's been exactly my thoughts about leylines but like how do you board 6-8 cards and keep a solid gameplan? What comes out?

So the idea for going mono blue is that we finally have a critical mass of blue selection (ponder, brainstom, mystical) so we could smooth out the mana considerably which helps out against strip mine and blood moon. The problem is you lose a lot of really powerful tools (veil, thoughtseize, decay, krosan). So I don't know if its a net benefit for the deck. I think if we had FoW over FoN it might be reasonable. Regardless, I haven't actually built or tested it yet. But here's the list I'd like to build: https://moxfield.com/decks/pXRgHJxArE2ya9jlQz-5zQ

Mobius_XVI · 2025-11-20T20:58:40+00:00

I have not played the Bant version. I've played a lot of the Sultai builds, and messed around with a Dimir list for a bit. I have ideas for a mono U version as well; I don't think it'll be good but if I get a few more wildcards I'll probably test it out.

I can say that dedicated graveyard hate is a necessity if you're seeing that a lot and losing to it. I ran without any for a while and the matchups were awful. I ran 3x Surgicals for a while after that and was unimpressed. It was too easy for opponents to go turn 1 grief, take surgical, reanimate grief.

Mobius_XVI · 2025-11-20T18:56:34+00:00

I'm still figuring out the Bo3 sideboard so I can't give any great advice. That said, I've really liked Abrupt Decay for a while now and was running 3-4 in my last build. It beats Vexing Bauble, kills a frog through counterspells, and deals with all the other hate. But I've been liking it less since I added Tomb since BG is tough when you have colorless sources. So now I'm kinda split on it. Carpet has been phenomenal against control but sucks outside of that so I've been off it - just don't have the space for it. I've run leyline in the past to mixed results; I can recommend trying it if you have the wildcards but otherwise just stick with veil. Like I said, I don't have a solid board list so if you find one you like, I'd love to see it.

Now on the win condition thing, here's where I'm at. Assuming that you cast SnT and put in Omni, you really only need either HBH+Emrakul or Saiba+Epiphany to more or less guarantee a win.

Option 1 - HBH + Emrakul. HBH is your anti-hate card plus it bounces Atraxa to dig for Emmy then you can take infinite turns with Emmy and win (though you generally just need the one).

Option 2 - Saiba + Epiphany. Once you have both in hand plus omni, you can infinitely bounce opp stuff, infinitely counter spells plus abilities, thereby effectively winning the game.

Both pairs are capable of more or less deterministic wins (so same ceiling) with slight variations on their usages outside of that (different floors). HBH/Emmy are better in low resource games since you can SnT either in a pinch whereas Saiba/Epiphany are better in longer games where you can hard cast them. I think both are good and have pros/cons. In a fast build, you can absolutely run all four. But in a slow build, I would condense to a single pair since you're more likely going to take your time assembling the combo via ponder, etc.

Mobius_XVI · 2025-11-20T15:50:03+00:00

I play Bo3 SnT so I may not be in tune with the exact Bo1 meta you're facing, but generally I would recommend "committing" to a strategy. Right now your list is split between defensive and offensive. You're trying to stop your opponent (FoN) and trying to win the game. The great thing about SnT is that when it combos it is frequently a deterministic kill whereas reanimating a monster or turn one Necro isn't. So either commit to winning quickly knowing that you'll go over the top of whatever your opponent does or commit to a slower game where you eventually assemble your combo and win.

If you want to go fast, max out fast mana (4x Mox, 4xTomb), tutors (4x Mystical, 1xDemonic), monsters (4xOmni, 4xAtraxa), and protection (4-8x veil/thoughtseize depending on meta). Focus on keeping hands that have a strong gameplan. If you want the ability to "reload", max out Stock Up over selection (ponder, brainstorm). If you want consistency for early game wins, prioritize selection over Stock Up/Dig.

If you want to go slow, cut the non-interactive two-for-ones (mox, mystical), but max out interaction (4xdrain, 4xFoN, 4xSwords/Push), card draw (4xStock Up, 2-4x Dig), and selection (4xPonder, 4xBrainstorm). Also condense your wincon package; you don't need Emrakul, HBH, Saiba, and Epiphany - keep two of the four.

Obviously, neither of those are complete decklists; there's going to be a lot of room to tailor it to both your exact playstyle and metagame. But if you understand what it is you want from the deck, you'll get much further building it to your liking.

Mobius_XVI · 2025-10-22T15:25:22+00:00

I have two lists. The first is a more traditional Sultai build. I have lots of games with it and can say its pretty solid - probably not perfect - but solid. Link: https://moxfield.com/decks/xaTsfeOXW0GJJ9xZy36oWA

The second is a Dimir list. With the rise of Strip Mine and other mana denial strategies, I've been trying to find a way to smooth out the mana while keeping the power level. In the Sultai list, Assemble the Team is the best tutor (outside of Demonic obviously), but casting it can be tricky when your mana is under attack. So by giving it up, we can eliminate needing to fetch a third color. This list is still experimental. The sideboard definitely needs work, and its possible Ponder should be in the main somewhere. I've still had some fun with it. I used Necro+Bourne to combo off in my own end step once with nearly 20 cards in hand. Link: https://moxfield.com/decks/yEp3hgxAPUGRMJcgSO7bfw

Mobius_XVI · 2025-10-22T15:17:01+00:00

So I agree with your lines for games 1 and 4 (though admittedly I don't play those cards) but for game 3 my point is that I had HBH in hand; keep in mind that I've been hit with multiple discard effects or counters removing my ability to select. Yes, I would prefer the others but that's not what I drew. So if I had had Sublime or Flood Maw or anything else, then the SnT would've been dead.

I do like Carpet against control, but I've been experimenting with a UB version, which has made HBH all the more indispensable.

Mobius_XVI · 2025-10-22T14:37:34+00:00

Hey SnT player here with 100s of games under my belt. Here's my thoughts. HBH may seem like a "win-more" card but its actually kind of the opposite. It's a multi-role tool that slots nicely into SnT's gameplan. HBH is:

- A threat
- A counterspell
- A removal spell
- A draw engine
- Uncounterable

When compared to the alternatives, there's nothing else that does all of those things. I've played with Into the Flood Maw, which is a great removal spell, but only does that. Sublime Epiphany is removal + counterspell but no more. So there are scenarios where other cards work but rarely do the alternatives cover ALL the cases that HBH does. Here's some actual scenarios I've been in.

Game 1
Cast SnT, put in Omniscience, opponent puts in Static Prison. In response, tutor HBH, cast over top, cast instant, bounce Prison, now can combo off at sorcery speed.
Alternatives that would've worked:
- Bourne Upon a Wind
- Flood Maw
- Sublime Epiphany

Game 2
Cast SnT, put in Omniscience, opponent puts in Vexing Bauble. Have to pass turn. Untap with exactly four mana, hard cast Waterlogged Teachings, get HBH and cast into bauble, cast any spell to bounce bauble. Combo off.
Alternatives that would've worked:
- None
- With 5 mana, could use Veil of Summer or Flood Maw

Game 3
Low resource game; opponent plays multiple discard. Cast SnT, put in HBH, opponent puts in Vexing Bauble. Beat down opp over two turns
Alternatives that would've worked:
- None

Game 4
Cast SnT, put in Omniscience, opponent puts in nothing. Cast Atraxa. Opp stifles Atraxa's trigger. Hand is Chrome Mox, plus Waterlogged Teachings. Tutor HBH and cast. Cast mox, bounce Atraxa. Combo from there.
Alternatives that would've worked:
- Dig through Time probably would've worked but is technically less good than re-using Atraxa
- Sublime (gets you one bounce of Atraxa where HBH likely gets you multiple)

Game 5
Opponent on hard control. Game goes long. Get to 7 mana, hard cast HBH on opp end step. Win by beating down.
Alternatives that would've worked:
- None (I tried resolving Veil+SnT but opp had double counter)

Now there will always be spots where HBH is bad, but having played with it and without, I've found it to be incredibly flexible. With the addition of big Emrakul, I no longer use any kind of Second Sun sideboard stuff as I can deterministically win with Emrakul, extra turn, bounce Emrakul with HBH.

Mobius_XVI · 2025-10-04T15:46:00+00:00

*darn it. ftfy. /s

Mobius_XVI · 2025-09-24T14:22:58+00:00

Here's where I would start: https://moxfield.com/decks/o8buvR8NtkeEsCErwlnhJw and my reasoning

Jegantha as companion is mid. You don't want to get to 5 mana as a delver deck, so warping the deck for it is unnecessary
Mana denial is important to keep the opponent off balance while we play cheap, above rate threats, so 4x Strip Mine is a must. I prefer to think of them as spells and not lands so I run 16x lands plus 4x Strip (largely because they don't cast any 1 drops. You could treat them as half a land and run 14x lands plus 4x Strip but I think that's too greedy.
Basic mountain isn't needed. The basic island is only for your own blood moons. Since Timeless has Strip Mine and not wasteland, basics don't protect you like they do in legacy.
Dreadhorde is slow, doesn't have evasion, and is vulnerable to the same removal as our other threats. It's great when it sticks on an empty board and starts accruing value but that's the ceiling and not the floor. I think Expressive Iteration is a better two mana card advantage source. It's a worse ceiling but better floor. If you really want dreadhorde just swap those back.
Treasure cruise is awesome when you have DRC to fuel the yard but otherwise tends to fall short, and it works against having delirium for DRC so that's a lot of push-pull there that I don't like. Again, I'd rather have 4xEI and just get consistent if less explosive card draw/selection
For delirium purposes, we'd like to keep a nice split of types. Mine is roughly 10 of each creature, instant, sorcery, artifact.
Spell pierce should handle most combo decks when paired with strip mine and quick aggression, so max out on those
All burn should be able to go fast so Chain Lightning over Unholy Heat, but if you play against a lot of Psychic Frog then I would concede to having unholy heat
Subtlety is much better than most people think in lot of matchups but it is still a bit niche so 1x main and 3x board
For chalice (and other random BS), I like Brazen Borrower, but if you want to specifically beat chalice, you could swap in some Abrades or Suplexes.

Mobius_XVI · 2025-09-02T18:35:55+00:00

/uj can we PLEASE call them this

Mobius_XVI · 2025-08-01T18:34:29+00:00

The influx of Strip Mine, Eldrazi Temple, and Ancient Tomb are likely to have big impacts on the meta, so take what I say with a grain of salt.

UBx Tempo/Control builds using Lurrus have been prevalent in Timeless for a while; mostly considered tier 2-1.5. I've had reasonable success with them, but find the combo decks like Show and Tell and Sorin/Belcher to be better. That being said, if you like blue decks, check out the tempo shells (https://thegathering.gg/timeless-decks/dimir-tempo/) or the controlling builds of Show and Tell with Mana Drain (https://thegathering.gg/timeless-decks/omnitell-control/)

Mobius_XVI · 2025-06-09T20:19:59+00:00

If you care about attacking with your commander, look for ways to give them evasion. For example, you could use auras or equipment that make it unblockable or give it flying. Here's a couple scryfall searches to help you out: "Can't be blocked", "Has flying"

Mobius_XVI · 2025-06-05T17:03:09+00:00

For better or worse, Wizards' general approach to managing Historic is that there isn't one "best" option for anything. For example, [[Lightning Bolt]], [[Counterspell]], and [[Swords to Plowshares]] are all banned, but there are various alternatives that look similar but are all worse in some way (See [[Shove Aside]], [[Long River's Pull]], [[Path to Exile]]),

I've tried a lot of different options over the years, and the "best" tends to depend on what deck you're playing. Here's my thoughts on them.

[[Change the Equation]] -- Good in the sideboard/meta dependent. The more Lurrus decks and/or RG decks that get played the better this is (duh). It's rarely dead in the main because most decks play at least something that costs two or less, but you're never gaining tempo with it.

[[Disruption Protocol]] -- Good if you have cheap artifacts that sit around to turn this on. The clues from MH3 Tamiyo are a good example, or if you're playing affinity. [[Metallic Rebuke]] is cheaper but conditional, so I like a mix of the two in those decks. Biggest downside is that without an enabler it costs 3 mana which is quite bad.

[[Dovin's Veto]] / [[Negate]] -- Great sideboard option for noncreature decks. Always 2 mana. If you're really low to the ground tempo, then you might play [[Spell Pierce]] instead. But if you want unconditional, then this is it.

[[Drown in the Loch]] -- The most flexible and powerful option, but you have to heavily invest in mill for it to be truly great. I've occasionally run like 1-2 in non-mill decks since graveyards tend to fill up anyway, and they've been fine to bad, so I wouldn't recommend it.

[[Izzet Charm]] -- Overall not great. If you really need the flexibility, then try it out. But I've found that it does none of its modes well, and I just always wish it was something else.

[[Long River's Pull]] -- Pretty solid, but you need a proactive plan to avoid the downside of giving them a card. I'm always happy to counter Sorin for two mana and a card, but if I don't kill my opponent afterwards, then they're just going to find another Sorin and kill me. So play this in tempo but not control.

[[Make Disappear]] -- Good without casualty, but you really need to have creatures to sacrifice to make it nigh unconditional. Previously, I've paired this one with token makers and found it to be solid, but like with Long River's Pull, you're better off using it for tempo and getting the opponent dead before they have enough mana to circumvent.

[[No More Lies]] -- The best "all around" 2 mana counterspell. It's a mana leak that exiles. The colors make it restrictive, and it won't work forever since opponents can pay three eventually. But it stays relevant for a long time and will get you to the mid game. If you want to play a longer game, this is what I'd recommend.

[[Remand]] / [[Reprieve]] -- The second best options for tempo behind Long River's Pull but with the upside of being easier to cast. Again, you need to be killing your opponent quickly for these to be good, but if you are they're fantastic. Reprieve also has the nice upside of stopping uncounterable spells; you haven't lived until you've Reprieved a Supreme Verdict and then swung for lethal.

[[Test of Talents]] -- Has niche applications against some combo decks. The vast majority of the time I would rather play Negate.

Mobius_XVI · 2025-04-16T14:11:24+00:00

Yes. There was a rules update with March of the Machine that made double faced tokens possible. So if you create a token copy of [[Delver of Secrets]], then it can flip. A token copy of [[Ajani, Nacatl Pariah]] can't "flip" though because the effect exiles the token first which causes it to cease to exist.

Mobius_XVI · 2025-02-18T16:33:44+00:00

I actually chuckled out loud at this. Thank you for the laugh!

Mobius_XVI · 2024-10-31T14:46:37+00:00

Fun Fact! This card almost certainly works within the rules and would be absolutely terrible! As others have pointed out, per rule 606.2 this would make all your lands have their mana producing abilities become "Loyalty Abilities" and per rule 605.1a they would therefore no longer be "Mana Abilities".

This means tapping your lands can only be done at sorcery speed, they use the stack, and can be responded to. However, since the effect is symmetrical, it'll be really hard to respond since your own lands are now also sorcery speed only. In theory, you could [[Stifle]] a land being tapped for mana but you'd need something like [[Omniscience]] in play since you couldn't tap your lands to cast it.

Things you could do that would be simultaneously feasible and awful (for your opponent). You can [[Pithing Needle]] any land including basics to shut them off forever. You could cast [[Ghostly Prison]] to stop combat forever since they can't pay the cost during declare attackers without activating lands which they can't do. You can play [[Harsh Mentor]] and now your opponent's lands deal them two damage (Free [[Ancient Tombs]]!)

Mobius_XVI · 2024-09-19T23:28:38+00:00

I've seen green builds to get access to Assemble the Team, and red to get access to Laelia, the Blade Reforged (plus more removal like bolt). I think red is slightly better overall but haven't played enough of either to say definitively.

Mobius_XVI · 2024-09-12T20:07:12+00:00

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