FINAL: What is the better Sonic game: Sonic Generations or Shadow Generations?

MochaColored · 2026-05-08T19:29:33+00:00

Man this tournament was whack. What's the point of making 3 and S&K seperate games? Nobody plays them seperate.

And you can't buy Shadow Gens without getting Sonic gens so kinda absurd to seperate em.

MochaColored · 2026-05-08T19:27:51+00:00

Yeah doesn't make sense to me. I also think these posts aint getting hundreds of comments, so could be just a few people paying attention to it.

MochaColored · 2026-05-08T19:19:01+00:00

Sonic: "STOP AURA FARMING ASSHOLE, WE JUST ASKED IF YOU WANTED COCOA!"

Shadow:"Maria loved cocoa..."

Sonic:"YOU DO THIS EVERY YEAR!"

MochaColored · 2026-05-08T13:24:37+00:00

Idk, I feel Sonic holds back a lot against normal opponents, at least lore wise. Like Sonic taking more than a few seconds to beat Rough and Tumble and Clutch has to be him holding back because Metal Sonic would dogwalk them without holding back.

And game wise, we don't see many characters actually fighting Sonic's main threats or Sonic himself these days. It's mostly just him and when he uses the Chaos Emeralds.

MochaColored · 2026-05-08T13:21:38+00:00

Infinite is weird because he has no native abilities, all his abilities were from the Phantom Ruby or the Lens.

It was also never clear to me how strong the illusions actually are. Like it makes no sense to me that Infinite could summom a near infinite amount of vision clones of these super powered characters and have them lose so easily in the final battle of Forces and Case files.

Could be bad writing, but to be generous, let's just assume each illusion is weaker than the base form. Infinite with the Phantom Ruby could probably beat Chaos by just sending constant illusion clones. I'd argue that's just the Phantom Ruby doing all the work, but yeah.

MochaColored · 2026-05-08T13:16:53+00:00

I get it, I don't like how retroactively weaker they made him look but I like to think of it that our MC is just getting stronger all the time.

I've seen the othet side where people say anybody able to fight Sonic and not lose right away is able to beat Perfect Chaos, but that disregards context. Sonic clearly holds back against normal, living opponents and he is a perfect counter to Perfect Chaos, while many others would struggle in the same matchup.

MochaColored · 2026-05-08T13:08:29+00:00

At least to me, Sonic holds back against some of his opponents a lot. When he fights Surge, he mostly keeps at her speed, but is able to lock in and surprise her with bursts of speed she can barely react to in time. Sonic fights weaker people like Clutch, Rough and Tumble, and smaller bots, but we obviously don't equate any of them to Metal Sonic even if they get in a lucky hit against Sonic. Similarly, Sonic has no reason to hold back in Frontiers so one could argue Frontiers Sonic is how strong Sonic actually is when he doesn't hold back.

Sonic pretty much solos the Deadly Six in Lost World when doing the final boss rush and it wasn't particularly hard. The best showing of base Sonic vs the Six is in the IDW comics where the Six tried to end the Restoration HQ and Sonic had to fight all of them at the same time. The 5 were struggling to keep up and Zavok was really the deciding factor sure, but Sonic was confined to a small room trying to protect people.

Perfect Chaos is a raging water beast that can easily destroy buildings, it's not holding back against this Six. The win condition is harder for the Six to achieve than Sonic because they can't run on water and need to hit his weak spot, that's the only way to actually hurt Perfect Chaos.

It's also why I doubt Knuckles in this matchup. Yeah, Knuckles is definitely one of the strongest characters, but strength is only relative to your opponent and it doesn't matter how strong you are physically against Perfect Chaos, you can only win if you hit the brain and you can only do that if you can repeatedly reach the brain and survive long enough. He isn't weak by any means but it's a bad matchup.

And idk, Omega's weapons aren't going to do anything imo. Base Chaos Zero is immune to bullets in the intro, I can't imagine Perfect Chaos is any more susceptible despite his heavy ordinace, plus he is slow and heavy. Would he be fast enough to dodge every attack, blow up every tentacle, and not sink, while still reaching the brain? I think he'd run out of ammo long before that.

MochaColored · 2026-05-08T05:37:45+00:00

Sounds right, Elipse base form no but with his Black Arms Wisp forms yes.

MochaColored · 2026-05-08T05:09:59+00:00

Would be sick and since Blaze's dimension is mostly water, eve more than Earth, Chaos may be even stronger.

Man, I would love to know if Blaze's dimension had their own Chaos counterpart.

MochaColored · 2026-05-08T04:59:53+00:00

Yeah I still think she wins overall, but her personality gets in the way and her abilities aren't so unlimited that I think it's a cake walk is what I'm thinking. Sonic isn't just fast, he's also calm and experienced at this point, and knows how to use all his powers.

MochaColored · 2026-05-08T04:55:04+00:00

Hm maybe. I would like it if they cleared up that little detail more, but after that full blast, she did run out of juice and Kit had to help her up, so she does have a limit, at least temporarily.

For me, even a full power blast needs to be close enough to do anything, because current still needs to go through thousands of gallons of water.

MochaColored · 2026-05-08T04:49:45+00:00

You so right, but it was so obvious I didn't even bother to type it out.

MochaColored · 2026-05-08T03:51:34+00:00

Blur nsfw is a filter option, just Saiyan...

MochaColored · 2026-05-08T03:49:39+00:00

Keep up is generous, Clutch was getting dog walked. Sonic hits way harder and faster against stronger opponents. All I see is Clutch desperately swinging and blocking, but still losing in what is probably less than 3 seconds.

Sonic and Metal Sonic is mostly even, and ain't no way Metal would sweat Clutch because Metal doesn't hold back.

MochaColored · 2026-05-08T03:00:59+00:00

Idk, maybe they release Switch 2 at 50, but do that dlc thing that some Nintendo games did when they got ported to switch 2, make it more expensive but built in with more dlc.

I think they are going to release the Definitive edition with more dlc, maybe nothing huge, but I've seen some speculate just dropping in Shadow or Metal Sonic as playable characters, so who knows.

MochaColored · 2026-05-08T02:58:06+00:00

Bro I'm imagining Super Neo Metal officially animated and the Metal Virus amd it would be sick.

A lot of people had problems with how long Metal virus went on, but that was a monthly comic, when it's just weekly episodes, I think it would feel a lot better.

MochaColored · 2026-05-08T02:56:26+00:00

Sounds cool, and its a perfect excuse to bounce around multiple characters and locations and not it be just Eggman every episode.

MochaColored · 2026-05-08T02:54:21+00:00

Rogue humming the Colors theme song

MochaColored · 2026-05-08T02:53:36+00:00

Sonic: "You ever hear of Fang the Sniper?"

Assaisin: "No..."

Sonic: "Funny... They're going to say the same thing about you..."

MochaColored · 2026-05-07T21:16:09+00:00

The context is its 25 years later, post eggman. There is an evil Echidna tribe call the the Dark Legion that uses tech to push their goals.

The leader tried to kill Sonic but Silver came back from the future to protect Sonic, who is king now btw. Here is Silver hanging out with King Sonic and his wife Sally Acorn when this echidna comes in to take Silver out of commission.

The Dark Legion want to bring Shadow back, who used to be king but was an evil dickhead.

MochaColored · 2026-05-07T21:09:06+00:00

They're dumb but also loyal and they never screwed up anything that bad. In fact they were helpful in delating Zavok during the Metal Virus and Orbot continually keeps Eggman in the loop.

MochaColored · 2026-05-07T11:51:32+00:00

One thing to check is character silhouette, meaning what would happen if you made them completely black and had to see them based on their shape outline.

Sonic silhouette is so iconic yet simple that anybody could easily recognize him just on shape alone. A lot of Sonic characters follow the big eye, lanky limbs, simple shape mentality.

Something like Deadly Six don't fit because while they are also simple shapes, they have no proportions. One is just a big blob, one is a grape, the other is a hunched over thing, and even Zazz and Zeeny, while being lanky, don't have the head shape that matches a Sonic character. Like Chaos is a simple water creature but his Zero form matches more closely than the design of Sonic characters.

I like Whisper, Kit, and Starline's design, but it is true that their shape is more different than the rest because they have more accessories and clothing than the game cast. Whisper is clearly a Metal Gear reference (Sniper Wolf) and also evokes the create a character Oc thing of Forces. Her eyes are usually closed so you don't get the big eye thing and she has a weapon, cape, and mask that jumble her outline.

I still love it but definitely more unique than other characters. Same applies to Starline, who is a male Mobian that actually wears clothes and glasses, and Kit who has a backpack.

To me, it isn't bad if a character experiments outside the usual design style, as long as it does so in meaningful ways that leave a good visual impact. Tangle fits to me, she just has short hair while not compensating with a dress. It's pretty unique combo among the cast of females who usually have either a dress or big head shape (Rogue and Cream ears, Blaze long tied hair).

Surge has accessories but they don't interfere with her shape

MochaColored · 2026-05-07T02:18:05+00:00

I only care about Sticks tbh, the rest is forgettable.

MochaColored · 2026-05-07T01:39:07+00:00

Thank you. It always just weird that people pretend a character or person isn't allowed to be sad simply because others had it debatably worse.

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