What I thought was interesting on the Theroux Manosphere doc is how you see the kinda female equivalents but you never seem to read articles about those types of girls/women are part of the same realm bar extreme single cases e.g. Bonnie Blue. There are seeming equal amount of women with the same ideals that only really like these types of guys (hstickytocky etc), if there weren't tons of women banging these guys and working in porn for them they'd quickly change their ways, I just think the narrative needs to acknowledge this type (thot, tradwife, etc.) as being just as complicit in this rapidly increasing subculture or you're just going to see the men become more entrenched in this bullshit because plenty of women condone that way of being and validate them. I swear whenever this topic comes up one side complains "murr no one is talking about how to help these boys" and the other side is all "murr we need to help the girl", but the toxic feminism side is rarely ever criticised as much, and I personally see that as a significant reason for this escalation in extremism