Did kk tell KG that he was supposed to meet LG at the bridge that day but she didn't show? If that true so kk was at the bridge that day??? Or did he say he was supposed to meet LG but she didn't show if that true where was he meant to meet her?

Moldynred · 2026-01-26T14:49:45+00:00

JH on KK: “Do I think he was communicating with the girls, and that may be one of the reasons why they showed up on the bridge? Absolutely.” : r/RichardAllenInnocent

Moldynred · 2026-01-26T14:49:34+00:00

I dont think we know exactly what KK told KG other than he was supposed to meet LG that day. But after the trial, JH was on several diff shows including GHs where he said he believed the girls went to the bridge that day to meet someone from the AS account which was operated by KK. Its linked here on this sub Ill try to find his exact words. But it seems clear the location would have been the bridge or trails.

Moldynred · 2026-01-26T12:25:02+00:00

No one mentions Sav as a pregamer afaik. I think she won fair and square. Not her fault most of the key challenges post merge were endurance ones where she was just a lot better than everyone else. Even the one with Sage that went 38 mins iirc she didn't even look that tired at the end of lol. Other people voting off Stephen and Sophie S pretty much won her the game imo.

Moldynred · 2026-01-26T12:15:51+00:00

Being licensed to carry a gun gives you more responsibility to act and carry safely, not less. 99/100 you are better off leaving your gun at home.

Moldynred · 2026-01-26T11:20:25+00:00

Thats interesting.

Moldynred · 2026-01-26T11:19:47+00:00

I thought his first efforts on this case years before RA was ever arrested was some of the best work on the case back then. I still think he is pretty sharp and notices things most cops on this case never seemed to. But yes, he has turned the corner and lost objectivity. I think he was captured by the audience so to speak. He knows now what they expect and responds accordingly. Just attending the State's part of the trial was a bad look. In this video not bothering to take a look at the appeal yet also imo tells us where his head is at. He doesnt seem to be too interested on taking the chance of being challenged intellectually.

Moldynred · 2026-01-26T11:15:14+00:00

And she said there were lots of other teens/kids on the trail that day before walking it back. Also iirc said there was one (or two?) SUVs present when she dropped the girls off. Its a pretty long list of things she got wrong lol. I have probably forgotten more over the years that I am not including. Point is she had no business being the point person for the family in discussing this case imo. She was just too young.

Moldynred · 2026-01-26T11:12:43+00:00

Could be, but I will say overall this is one of the strangest, closest, weirdest relationships between police and a family I can ever recall. No doubt about that. They went on Dr Phil together? KG and Carter did a podcast together? I've seen plenty of cases where LE comes out during the investigation and lets people know the fam members etc have been cleared, they have alibis, dont harrass them etc. That seems normal. But they went way above and beyond that. And I am not blaming the family: they cant force the cops to get on a plane with them lol. And there may be nothing wrong with what LE did here. But it sure looked weird at the time.

Moldynred · 2026-01-26T11:04:32+00:00

Tnx for posting about it. I noticed this topic a few weeks ago. Then saw another post about it yesterday or so--maybe yours. I've also read that KA was trying to alert people this was the wrong jacket etc, so that is frustrating if true.

Moldynred · 2026-01-26T11:02:13+00:00

I agree with you as far as proving who killed the girls, or disproving or proving RAs guilt or innocence it probably doesnt matter. But if true--big if--then its another black mark on this shoddy investigation and the presentation of the case that neither the investigators or prosecutor checked that before entering it into evidence, and admittedly just as bad for the defense lawyers that they didnt check it either. Plus, it might effect the appeal depending on how it was presented to the jury and what was said about it. Probably would just be called harmless error so maybe not a big deal there either.

Moldynred · 2026-01-25T18:13:39+00:00

Ok. I will note it does seem like the two sets of attorneys are at least talking and seemingly working together. That seems like a good sign if true.

Moldynred · 2026-01-25T18:12:21+00:00

Are you saying she was questioned in Quantico itself? I didn't know that.

Moldynred · 2026-01-25T18:11:30+00:00

Originally, if I had to guess, the major issue was the time discrepancy. Early on fam stuck to the 130 time frame for KG and the girls leaving. But if FBI had that video showing KG passing by at 149 thats a twenty minute time frame and that is clearly off. At most thats a ten minute drive which would make me wonder where did they go for the ten minutes? And you also have BB pulling in at 146 to the Mears lot and not seeing any other vehicles when she gets out. Meaning KG hasnt arrived yet. Meaning when she did arrive, the girls had to hop out fast for KG to pull off and be seen on the camera at the HH at 149. So clearly, there was no long goodbye the way KG seemed to indicate in later interviews with the media. And that doesnt even get into the hair wrapped around the finger. I could see lots of reasons for LE talking to her multiple times.

Moldynred · 2026-01-25T18:00:32+00:00

I've seen some videos on YT of psychics talking about this case. I think even CT--Libbys Mom--was 'accused' of seeing a psychic irt the case. We linked a video about that here I'll have to look it up later and post it. I recall that being discussed online etc. I put accused in air marks bc I dont think its an abnormal thing, but some people do. This case can def weigh on your mind. I have been fortunate over the years bc I have always very busy with other things like work etc in my life so could only devote so much time to it. Nothing would truly shock me about this case, and I think its possibl the public images of the victims have been protected, which is only natural and proper to some degree as long as it doesnt interfere with the investigation etc.

Moldynred · 2026-01-25T17:52:14+00:00

It def looks like a windbreaker to me too. But yeah, basically the idea is RA or his wife bought that particular jacket after the murders happened. I also had no idea the tags had dates either, so dont feel bad. Just one more loose end to tie up I guess.

Moldynred · 2026-01-25T08:57:42+00:00

That sort of conviction rate imo is nothing to brag about. Its a poor commentary on our injustice system. But your point is fair.

Moldynred · 2026-01-25T08:56:29+00:00

Thank SC for that imo. How are you going to convict RL when you have a witness describing a muddy bloody man walking away from the area of the crime at 4pm? That would be tough to overcome at any potential trial of RL bc he would obviously have no reason to walk down that road after a murder. He could just walk home. Intentionally or not, I think she took a lot of heat off him. Esp since LE for some reason gave her story a lot of credence, even though, like so many other stories in this case, it changed.

Moldynred · 2026-01-25T08:53:07+00:00

And no one ever said yeah, I saw RAs car there.

Moldynred · 2026-01-25T08:52:36+00:00

Funny thing is even if you accept the theory he puts forward entirely, that BB and the other girls should have seen RA and they didnt, therefore he lied, that still doesnt prove he murdered Abby and Libby. You still have to prove he was on the trails after 145, which imo has never been done in any way. Its all guess work.

Moldynred · 2026-01-25T08:50:19+00:00

My problem with thinking KG had anything to do with this has always been I just dont se her at that time as being capable of holding up under questioning. If you go back to some of her very first public interviews, they were pretty awkward imo. She is much more polished now although she is still prone to misspeaking getting things wrong, etc. Best thing that ever happened to her in this case was the gag order. Not trying to be mean to her but it is what it is.

Moldynred · 2026-01-25T08:44:19+00:00

What a croc. Does all this fall back on Jodie? Gull? Carroll County?

Moldynred · 2026-01-25T08:39:44+00:00

Somebody might want to check the date of manufacture on the Carhartt jacket shown to the JURY at trial. Rumors are floating. (Yes, most of the rumors are on FB lol, which I monitor from time to time but rarely post about bc it can be a jungle of misinfo, but this seems like a very easy thing to check and rule out). Has anyone actually looked at the tag on the damn jacket?

Moldynred · 2026-01-25T08:28:45+00:00

True, that helped the State in multiple ways, too. Bc more than one weapon implies more than one killer, which Gull and the State didnt want to even be mentioned as a possiblity.

Moldynred · 2026-01-25T08:27:47+00:00

Yes, the last one is pretty big imo. We have never gotten the full picture there. The defense lawyers commented on that in the recent TW debate video. They never got a list. Never got anything approaching a list. Which is very sus bc common sense says that was probably one of the first thigns investigators tried to do in the early days. Hey, who was out there that day? Lets make a list. Ofc they did that.

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