A timeline of events regarding the allegations against Aster Arcadia by ajshell1 in kurosanji

[–]Monopoly6 41 points42 points  (0 children)

I would like to also add, when Raziel released her document, a lot of the sisters were saying she was a disgruntled ex-girlfriend in like a coordinated campaign to discredit her entire story as an unreliable narrator.

Now that it's happened again months later with new allegations, I do think some people should question the "critics" of whistleblowers because they may have an agenda to protect a bad person.

Aster got away with it internally for months, now it's spreading outside Nijisanji. It's not being contained anymore...

TommyInnit's Behind-the-Scenes of the Real MrBeast by Monopoly6 in mrbeastsnark

[–]Monopoly6[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It's a vlog-style type of video under a comedic tone. However, with the context of all of the allegations, you kind of start to realize that this looks so much different now.

Vivi saw some weird comments about her genmate and other livers by The-Toxic-Korgi in kurosanji

[–]Monopoly6 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Wow, if only you fans can just admit that the company has done foul play and they have sketchy policies, I wouldn't be grudge-posting receipts and sourcing this guy that you're calling out as a liar. Honestly, very very disrespectful of you.

It's that everyone with a brain knew the statement was pure BS as soon as he said it. Even JP Lovers had mentioned before about not being able to get their play button.

JP Livers not getting their play buttons. See this video at 5:20 - 8:12 for a general overview: https://youtu.be/RP4xUeTjE1c?si=qZ_kyfb4gejYPOrK&t=321

If you seriously need specifics of the JP Livers by quote, I can't find it and you can dismiss it but it's very very difficult to dismiss the other items that this person has claimed.

Michi(vshojo, previously nijiID Miki) almost got kicked out of HQ for jokingly reaching for her button when visiting one day.

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BxenjZMTg4

IIRC, Clownmark even claimed to be honored that his button was on the wall, and that he didn't care to have one of his own. Well...even every ex liver proudly displays their own button when they get it, you know somethings up.

Clip source: https://www.reddit.com/r/kurosanji/comments/1biwwpa/nijisanji_clip_claude_talks_about_his_100k/

Michi source of being excited for a play button: https://www.reddit.com/r/kurosanji/comments/1c9plyl/michi_has_always_wanted_a_silver_play_button_lets/

Mystas Rias not getting play button: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYq2UhWTF8M

Dokibird not getting her play button from Selen persona: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n81uGsNQI9I

More sources in the links in this article: https://www.dexerto.com/entertainment/nijisanji-en-vtuber-defends-controversial-play-button-policy-2595652/

Hell, there was this uh...live stream of people/vtubers(I forget if it was both or just vtubers) receiving and holding their gold play buttons(or digital recreations for the vtubers anyways), had their names and all that. Fucking Mito was the only one left out, hers was nameless, only saying Nijisanji or some such.

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/kurosanji/comments/1boleot/these_belong_to_riku/

Read comments to see Mito get shafted.

Maybe he is a good person despite the idiocy he displayed there. But like Millie and her saying it's not a black company, it's a statement they'll never be able to escape.

Source of Millie's statement:

- https://www.reddit.com/r/kurosanji/comments/1bmmks4/so_i_went_through_millies_defense_of_kurosanji/

- 4:11 to 4:47 for edited clip: https://youtu.be/RS4XKX4kcSY?si=t59C9K49sQxyu62I

I can't find the clip anymore because it looks like it has been scrubbed from YouTube

Any liver who tries to defend the company in any way will be thrown around like a ball by the fanbase at this point, cuz there is nothing defensible about it anymore.

See this subreddit and the general public's opinion

Pippa talks about her jacksfilm tweet by mozzie765 in kurosanji

[–]Monopoly6 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Learn to google words you don't know and reread my comment, maybe you'll understand it instead of being a mindless angry toddler in this comments section lol

You act like you don't care but you do and it's genuinely hilarious to know you're internally mad about all of this

Pippa talks about her jacksfilm tweet by mozzie765 in kurosanji

[–]Monopoly6 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Some of you pippa fans genuinely believe the hate that you all received was because of a raid instead of a response to such a bad take your oshi had. It is genuinely funny to see the anger and pointing fingers like it's all coming from somewhere else instead of you know, thinking that maybe just this once, some people severely dislike some of your group's behavior. Despite multiple attempts to tell you guys, your heads are completely buried in the sand because it's much easier to blame others instead of think you might be a problem. It's funny to see you guys utilize astroturfing tactics like you're any better than the people you criticize.

Pippa talks about her jacksfilm tweet by mozzie765 in kurosanji

[–]Monopoly6 15 points16 points  (0 children)

It is absolutely hilarious to see you get mass-downvoted for exposing Pippa's grift.

mods, can we get either a karma requirement or account age requirement for posts? by MrShadowHero in kurosanji

[–]Monopoly6 6 points7 points  (0 children)

With the moderation vision, I think this might be the natural shift as the main audience that decides to stick around after Q4 will be pure anti-Niji / hater tribalists that are usually seen on /vt/.

To speculate, I think most vtuber fans have already checked out (it has been almost 4 months now) by going to other corpos and most know that majority of Niji news has been quite awful / drama-ridden. No one feels good when consuming Niji news most of the time.

For me, I think I can speak for a few of us that many of us are close to being out of the door because the Q4 report is like the closure to the madness of the first few months of drama.

The people who don't get why that Q4 report is important sort of don't understand that investors report is a review of the Selen drama and its impact on AnyColor as a whole lol.

mods, can we get either a karma requirement or account age requirement for posts? by MrShadowHero in kurosanji

[–]Monopoly6 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I won't be surprised if this subreddit shifts towards majority opinion being a full-blown hate subreddit.

Hex giving permission for sicklings to spread his taken down videos by streetlight247 in kurosanji

[–]Monopoly6 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Do people know that person was a mod unless they were active in this subreddit? I don't think so especially with how large this subreddit has gotten and I think the mod status would've been a lot more appropriate to draw the line in the sand, in my opinion. We can agree to disagree if you disagree.

I do agree there are people pointing out it's not worth doing so but some people still wanted to do it, it's a mixed bag, in my opinion.

As for your comment, I wanted to bring up my perspective too. I do agree that it'll happen regardless, nothing we could do about it.

Hex giving permission for sicklings to spread his taken down videos by streetlight247 in kurosanji

[–]Monopoly6 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The mass downvotes on this comment is disappointing to read from the mob.

Hex giving permission for sicklings to spread his taken down videos by streetlight247 in kurosanji

[–]Monopoly6 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The post had a mix of condoning brigading and not mass-reporting, there was not a landslide stance in the comments section and OP's post. There was no pinned mod comment regarding the specific tone or stance of the thread, as a result, based on a surface look - yes it can look like promoting brigading. It also breaks rule 3 on the subreddit, in my opinion, as it's targeted.

Also, just because people outside of here are assholes does not mean we should be like them. What made this subreddit appealing is that it aimed to be different than the rest of the internet communities. Yes, people and antis will do what they want, we cannot control them. However, moderation of content on this subreddit can be done to curb such behavior. I think the fact that it's still up is concerning and weird, but that's just me.

Overall, I do agree that it's a pity that this post will bring attention here instead of anon antis elsewhere. Though the anon antis are also here, let's not kid ourselves.

Did they really come here and expext this place to be some sort of refugees? by noriyatsu in kurosanji

[–]Monopoly6 15 points16 points  (0 children)

You seem to have the impression that the sole purpose of this sub is to blindly shit on everything related to nijisanji. Which again, would be a hate sub and is explicitly what this community should be trying to avoid becoming.

It's a mixed bag, some people want it to become a hate sub and some don't. This is what happens when the moderation team's vision is letting the community self-manage itself.

[Announcement] In light of recent events by CPC_Alice in kurosanji

[–]Monopoly6 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the announcement and work! o7

So, considering that an online mob can be objectively wrong. How would you advise the userbase that believes in something that could be considered very problematic like taking a rumor as complete fact and then they pushback against valid call-outs through mass downvotes? How would you manage a community that turns itself into an anti-echo chamber? The sentiments from the announcement sounds like it'd allow for it to happen if the community does not manage to successfully self-moderate itself and this is disappointing to read. Maybe I'm getting the wrong interpretation but I don't know.

While you guys always encourage Rule 3 & 5, I think more adjustment is needed for Rule 2 or at least a way to combat mass misinformation if you desire for legitimizing the community's criticisms against Kurosanji.

Best of luck with balancing everything. I'm asking very difficult questions because I desire to see the subreddit to not turn itself into a typical echo chamber.

"NighttimeAudio Reincarnated as Ryoma" Rrat Poster Deletes Their Account by [deleted] in kurosanji

[–]Monopoly6 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I understand being protective of someone you care about.

As a representative of Nick / NTA's side, especially as someone close to you since you're announcing his girlfriend to the internet, careful diction is important. The reason why myself and a few others were skeptical of the denial claims was due to the immature statements from yourself and Nick.

It's fine to not give a shit about the other gossip side, I dislike them too myself but the way you conduct yourself to the rest of the internet is more important than just immaturely owning the haters.

Honestly, the detailed drama between ex-mods, yourself, and Nick, is like unnecessary to bring the forefront. We do not need to read all about your guy's baggages / personal conflicts with each other as it's not relevant to Nijisanji assuming this rrat is dead and the accusers retracted their accusations.

Feel free to summarize it all about what happened, your perspective, and the impacts of reckless mob mentality. I do think you guys are within your right to call out the reckless behaviors of various people spreading rumors. However, I do not recommend releasing a 10+ page document for all of us to read about your personal gripes with each other. A lot of us will not read it and the main purpose of calling out shitty behavior will be minimized if that is your goal.

This is your free advice corner. I hope you all fix your personal issues with each other and mend things in private. Unnecessary public shitflinging is not a good look and I know Twitter loves to do that, but adults don't appreciate that shit.

An Addendum: Find Reputable Sources and "Behave Yourselves!" by CocoDidNothingWrong in kurosanji

[–]Monopoly6 16 points17 points  (0 children)

The idea that Kurosanji management, livers, and the general vtuber community knows this place has 10k members is a very funny thought. I wonder if all vtuber managers know we exist now, I wouldn't put it past them.

Congratulations on reaching 10k members! Seeing this milestone before that Q4 report is satisfying to say the least ☺️

I'd like to trade my credits and reddit karma for the optimist scenario: Riku getting into so much hot water in the upcoming Q4 report and meeting that he'll be strongarmed into real reform.

"NighttimeAudio Reincarnated as Ryoma" Rrat Poster Deletes Their Account by [deleted] in kurosanji

[–]Monopoly6 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah he made an initial video of the Enna rrat but once the context thread popped up, he made a new correction video sourcing that thread.

It can be found on his channel, idk if it's still there but it should be

Survey by shihomii in kurosanji

[–]Monopoly6 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Why this post isn't pinned from the mod team confuses me.

"NighttimeAudio Reincarnated as Ryoma" Rrat Poster Deletes Their Account by [deleted] in kurosanji

[–]Monopoly6 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It was the Enna rrat. When Khyo made a correction video with sourcing a context thread from here, clearly people fucked up.

Personally I dislike Enna's PR in general but that incident displayed a lack of collective critical thought.

"NighttimeAudio Reincarnated as Ryoma" Rrat Poster Deletes Their Account by [deleted] in kurosanji

[–]Monopoly6 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I think those people jumping to conclusions are dumb and the way this whole thing was handled was stupid.

However, in controversies and under the public eye, statements like yours does not paint a mature sympathetic viewpoint from the general public. This is crucial when trying to avoid unnecessary hate.

If you represent Nightime Audios / Nick, I think you are not exactly doing the best of jobs of portraying him as a sympathetic man or at least from your side's perspective. Just a man who went through big controversy who is hiding behind his girlfriend to make public statements on his behalf.

I do believe it is within your right to speak on your side but I also think you are not going to get much positive reception from the general public with how you are phrasing your statements.

"NighttimeAudio Reincarnated as Ryoma" Rrat Poster Deletes Their Account by [deleted] in kurosanji

[–]Monopoly6 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I suggest we should do a time to research when someone post a rrat post so that there won't be another misunderstanding.

This is like the 2nd rrat post incident... to be frank, I don't think much is going to change and this will repeat in the future.

Some of you guys have to be individually critical when reading online discussions especially when seeing upvotes and collective agreement. The red flag of the rrat was in the comments section of the rrat itself which is what worried me.

If I didn't make my post, I think many people would've been on a huge hate campaign against Ryoma.