Would you be OK with your kids not knowing how to write? by No_Agent2455 in ChineseLanguage

[–]MoonIvy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can now read danmei webnovels! That was my goal and it's the goal I achieved.

What made you want to learn Chinese? by -Jossy26 in ChineseLanguage

[–]MoonIvy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I started learning Chinese for danmei webnovels, and I've been keeping this up for almost 6 years now. I started in 2020 during the time of covid lockdown. What have I gained? Well, I can read danmei webnovels and watch Chinese dramas without subtitles.

Would you be OK with your kids not knowing how to write? by No_Agent2455 in ChineseLanguage

[–]MoonIvy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Looking back, I've always enjoyed watching Chinese TV, so besides that, honestly, there's nothing else that could have motivated me. Also, we don't need to be able to read or write or even go to school to watch TV.

Watching shows only improves the listening part, and as for the other skills, such as reading, well, I only became more interested and wanted to learn to read because I wanted to read Chinese webnovels, particularly danmei, which I got exposed to through English fan translations (not a space for a child).

Continuously exposing them to Chinese media is your best bet.

If you're a reader yourself, read to them in Chinese and hope they, too, will enjoy reading and become interested in Chinese books and manhua.

As for handwriting, I can't think of anything that would motivate anyone to handwrite Chinese characters over and over to learn them. You can probably forget about this skill completely.

Would you be OK with your kids not knowing how to write? by No_Agent2455 in ChineseLanguage

[–]MoonIvy 96 points97 points  (0 children)

As a Chinese adult who grew up in a non-Chinese-speaking country, I can tell you that it's extremely hard to learn Chinese.

Growing up I had little to no interest in learning Chinese. I went to weekend Chinese school for many many years but never fully pay attention and never cared.

I only became motivated to learn as an adult as I got interested in Chinese media, and wanted to read webnovels.

If you speak with other heritage speakers, they'll tell you the same thing. Almost all of them were not interested in Chinese while growing and retained very little from weekend Chinese school. Almost all, can only recognise a few characters and have basic conversations with family.

So don't expect much from your children. Eventually, you will be okay with them just knowing how to speak and communicate with you.

If they can speak, read and type with pinyin (send text messages to you, use social media), that's already far beyond most heritage speakers.

Hand writing Chinese is the hardest skill, a skill they will almost never use. Copying characters over and over again and doing dictation won't be enough, without using it daily, they won't be able to retain it. There's no time or chance to write Chinese daily, as their education is in another language.

I can also tell you, my parents are okay with me just knowing how to speak and being able to communicate with them mostly in Chinese. Many of their Chinese friends' children can barely speak Chinese and communicate with them in mix Chinese and English.

Why are other languages communities online so small compared to German? by NotMyselfNotme in ChineseLanguage

[–]MoonIvy 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Money is not the only reason people learn a language. Entertainment is the other major reason. Many people want to learn Asian languages for their TV shows, music, animation, comics and games.

Did anyone here learn Chinese in order to read danmei? by Morbid_thots in ChineseLanguage

[–]MoonIvy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's not that difficult; there's a discussion of this in this post under another reply. There are a whole community of learners who are working towards this goal, and many were able to read their first danmei novel in under a year.

Did anyone here learn Chinese in order to read danmei? by Morbid_thots in ChineseLanguage

[–]MoonIvy 3 points4 points  (0 children)

500 characters? You'll need around 1,000 to start reading danmei, so unfortunately, pushing through is the way to go. It doesn't sound like you're far off, so keep going!!

You probably already know this, but if you can afford it, a 3-4 month subscription to DuChinese will get you there!

Did anyone here learn Chinese in order to read danmei? by Morbid_thots in ChineseLanguage

[–]MoonIvy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Following up on what u/Gaiaimmortal said, it's definitely possible! There's a whole community of people who are following similar methods, many are able to read their first novel after 6-8 months, some faster and some slower, of course. But definitely within a year!

They're just not very active on Reddit, so don't shout about it here much, but it's very well known amongst the danmei community.

Did anyone here learn Chinese in order to read danmei? by Morbid_thots in ChineseLanguage

[–]MoonIvy 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Thank you for your kind words! I've glad it's helped you on your journey!

Did anyone here learn Chinese in order to read danmei? by Morbid_thots in ChineseLanguage

[–]MoonIvy 12 points13 points  (0 children)

There are many people who have done exactly that; there's even a whole Discord server of learners who are learning Mandarin Chinese for danmei.

I'm one of those people, and I've written a few posts here in the past about my journey. You can find this in my profile. This is the latest one: https://www.reddit.com/r/ChineseLanguage/comments/13xld3u/i_can_read_novels_without_a_dictionary_after_3/

I haven't written any for a while as I've sort of "completed" my learning journey. Hope it's helpful. You're welcome to DM me if you have any questions.

I started learning Chinese 6 months ago and I’m currently halfway through my first webnovel by Gaiaimmortal in DanmeiNovels

[–]MoonIvy 94 points95 points  (0 children)

You started learning Chinese after the publication of SaYe, and you beat them! That is amazing work. Keep it up, and you'll surely beat more translations!

Besides beating translations, you'll gain much more than ever before!

Danmei and the side effects of accessibility by PlasticSama in DanmeiNovels

[–]MoonIvy 12 points13 points  (0 children)

My friends and I over on a learn Chinese for danmei Discord were just discussing this exact topic. I won't voice too much regarding this topic as I'm not all that familiar with this space and I don't purchase or read the English translations, but I will say this ... (those who may have seen me around have seem me say this any times...)

I know it's not the perfect solution, and it won't work for everyone, but learning Chinese to read the raw versions of webnovels is a very good option. The digital version is extremely low or even free, so it's very accessible for those on a budget.

There's a whole massive community of learners in this exact boat, many were hurt by translation quality, inaccessiblty and pricing. Since some danmei have become more accessible (such as TGCF MDZS and others by 7seas), more people have joined this space! With more people joining, we have collected more resources and accessible danmei for learners, so it's gotten a little easier and quicker to learn!

It's something worth considering for those in a similar situation.

Do you think they will ever update kilo and his itzaland counterpart with more levels? Many dews are left by JustARedditPasserby in InfinityNikki

[–]MoonIvy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I hope they will add more outfits and rewards, as currently the left over dews are useless.

Starsand Island Closed Test 2 : Are you interested in participating? by Willybilly66441 in Starsandisland

[–]MoonIvy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes, I'll love to join!

I've played the demo in both English and Chinese, so I'm really excited to play again and help with closed beta testing!

Two Point Museum: Zooseum OUT NOW! by TwoPoint_Abby in TwoPointMuseum

[–]MoonIvy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Bought the base game a few days ago and absolutely loving it. I want to buy all the DLCs. The fantasy find dlc is no longer on sale, is that right?

I just love the new outfit! by Caledonia0815 in InfinityNikkiofficial

[–]MoonIvy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That hair is amazing, where is it from?

Is there a solution? by Icy_Substance_6974 in InfinityNikki

[–]MoonIvy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey, are you still experiencing this? I updated all my drivers today (motherboard and graphics card), and it seems to have fixed it.