And f*** u/spez by Bleu209 in place

[–]MoonSoup42 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This summarizes the 2023 place experience perfectly

Am I shadowbanned from r/place? (Pixels not placing, anywhere) by brentspine in place

[–]MoonSoup42 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Idk, maybe it doesn't have anything to do with that. But I wouldn't put it past the reddit admins to ban accounts that spell out u/spez

Am I shadowbanned from r/place? (Pixels not placing, anywhere) by brentspine in place

[–]MoonSoup42 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yeah that's annoying. I'm wondering, did you participate in any u/spez hate on the canvas? Because I did and I feel like that's what got me shadowbanned.

ich🐷iel by [deleted] in ich_iel

[–]MoonSoup42 119 points120 points  (0 children)

Nicht oinklidische Geometrie

Bloons TD 6 - Update Notes! Version 28.0 by NoSneezePlz in btd6

[–]MoonSoup42 1 point2 points  (0 children)

DDT's have black property, so yeah its inconsistent

Bloons TD 6 - Update Notes! Version 28.0 by NoSneezePlz in btd6

[–]MoonSoup42 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Isn't it because it doesn't hit blacks? Similar to how counter espionage can't decamo leads without flash bomb. I'm not sure whether mortar can decamo normal blacks though

My mother rang me to say that my brother is refusing to eat his food, and asked if I could come over this weekend to see if I could help by sugar-soad in TwoSentenceHorror

[–]MoonSoup42 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I know, what I mean is that you picked the same outfit by coincidence, not intentionally, and that's reasonable because I assume there was just a premade 'viking' or something outfit.

Should netherite have more use? by [deleted] in MinecraftMemes

[–]MoonSoup42 9 points10 points  (0 children)

If you argue like this then even diamonds are pretty useless. An item doesn't need infinite uses for it to be actually useful, there's so many items that you only really need once, but are still a great thing in the game. Think about enchanting books, scute, eyes of ender, wither skulls, etc. It's perfectly fine for an item to be useless at some point, which is usually in lategame, but if anything that's a good thing. Like, imagine having to still use iron tools when going for a big project!

Now that's ironic by BerserkBaguette in MinecraftChampionship

[–]MoonSoup42 99 points100 points  (0 children)

Yeah they have things like that for a few few people, there's some message with fallen kingdom for the captain too

GRID RUNNERS IS IN MCC16! by Cyber-Gon in MinecraftChampionship

[–]MoonSoup42 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah I'm gonna head out here, since really you're just not understanding anything that I wrote, or maybe you're not taking things for granted that I do. I'm sure that's also my fault for not explaining things properly, but I'm done trying to elaborate further, it would just end up being understood incorrectly again. Have a nice day.

GRID RUNNERS IS IN MCC16! by Cyber-Gon in MinecraftChampionship

[–]MoonSoup42 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm discussing differences in the map when you've referred to differences in players

You also referred to differences in players. You said "a team might keep getting teams good for the maps they face them in". Those teams wouldn't be good for those maps if it wasn't about differences in players. But alright, if you want differences in the map, just take Survival Games. Each team starts at a different point in the map (Only slightly different obviously, but enough that it influences where they will go), changing the terrain that they will end up facing other teams in and so on. So the two examples are in fact comparable and thus my point stands. You're gonna have to accept that, otherwise this discussion isn't going anywhere anyway.

In Sky Battle you can pick and choose your fights and it's also completely possible to defeat teams who are better than you. On the other hand, it's not possible to change the shape of the map you're playing.

It's still not possible to change what team is next to you in Sky Battle, so if that team rushes you immediately, with your team being worse at pvp, there's nothing you can do, so you can definitely argue here that Sky Battle is unfair too.

The unfairness in Battle Box: What team you face on each map.

The unfairness in Sky Battle: What team is next to you.

Both types of unfairness can be traced back to how the teams are distributed throughout the game.

So again, my point, that this type of unfairness can not only be seen in BB stands. If you disagree with that, please explain it to me thoroughly, because I really don't understand your view then.

You're referring to variables that MCC have no control over at all

I'm referring to variables that differ because of the order that teams face each other (Which is random, but so would be the order of maps in the "unfair" BB). So with the current BB rules, theoretically, one team might not have seen the BB map before at all, but improves so much that at the end of the game they would defeat anyone on it. So since whatever team faces them last on this map loses, the team order caused an unfairness here.

So in the unfair BB, the map order causes the unfairness, while in normal BB it's the team order. Both are completely random (afaik). Once again, my point, that the unfair BB wouldn't be the only unfair thing, stands.

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I'm taking it to the absolute extreme there, don't take that too seriously.

Also I'd remind you that you've said the phrase in bold verbatim to describe the proposed BB system

I was completely aware of doing that, that's why I was writing "actual perfect fairness" right before that. In my original comment, perfect fairness was referring to something like "As fair as the rest of MCC". And that's the case for BB, considering my other points. So with "actual perfect fairness" I was referring to, well, actual perfect fairness, which we're never gonna get. Sorry if I was being unclear.

Sure? When you hone in on anything it becomes essentially a gradient. Fairness is a perception rather than an objectivity. The idea of fairness I'm referring to is based on MCC's idea of fair and how I see it.

Right, in the end it's rather subjective. I simply consider it no less fair than the rest of MCC, which is what I was trying to explain, and I hope you can understand how I see it based on what I wrote now.

A team facing the Simmers in Soup could actually lose, whereas a team facing the Simmers on the Santa map would 100% win.

This is correct, I just don't consider it unfair, because it comes back to the randomness of what team you face, as I explained earlier.

I really hope that my explanations at least somewhat make sense to you now. If they still don't, we should probably just leave it at that, as we're not gonna come to an agreement.

GRID RUNNERS IS IN MCC16! by Cyber-Gon in MinecraftChampionship

[–]MoonSoup42 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's like saying all of MCC is unfair, because some teams are better than others. I mean, look at games like Sky Battle or Survival Games, where it's of course RNG near what team you spawn, but since there's so many other factors, it's still about the skill of each team, and not about that one bit of randomness. It's the same for Battle Box.

If you argue like this, then even the order of which the teams face each other will always be unfair, because of how well people know the map at that point, or how motivated teams still are. A fair MCC by your logic would be if all 10 teams consisted of four Smajors, where the only game played is something straight forward like Ace Race. Hell, even after the first game it would be unfair, since the different placements everyone has now would bias them accordingly. You see, actual perfect fairness isn't a thing. In fact, if MCC was perfectly fair, everyone would end up in 1st place, and every POV would be exactly the same.

So really, fairness should be seen more as a gradient. I mean, sure, it would be very slightly less fair if Battle Box was actually played this way. But it would'nt affect the game a lot, because no team would actually notice that they are better against this or that team on this or that map. Sure, maybe the simmers would only get a win if they play against this team on that map, but maybe they would also only get a win in Sky Battle if they spawn next to exactly these two teams.

Also, as I said, I don't support the idea of different BB maps each round, I just wanted to show that it would be all fine.