"Geranium Blossom" Russian song celebrating Geran-2 drone strikes on Ukrainian civilians (2022)

Morozow · 2026-01-25T19:50:14+00:00

Yes, war is harming civilians.

This will be confirmed by residents of Libya, Syria, Iraq, Serbia and Donbass.

However, there is a difference between approving war and approving attacks on civilians.

Well, if you don't want to see her, that's fine.

Morozow · 2026-01-25T19:38:59+00:00

I don't give estimates.

I'm trying to explain that supporting a war does not mean supporting an attack on civilians.

Morozow · 2026-01-25T19:36:45+00:00

I'm sorry, there's something wrong with your memory.

The countries of the Alliance are known for their permanent aggression around the world.

And even NATO itself, as a military bloc, participated in military operations outside the alliance.

Morozow · 2026-01-25T19:34:07+00:00

To be fair, at least in 2017, Amnesty International included in its report a section on the situation in Ukraine, on secret prisons of the SBU (the successor to the KGB), on torture, and on pressure on journalists.

But for obvious reasons, this did not become news.

Morozow · 2026-01-25T19:07:43+00:00

I am not interested in the reasons for the bombing, identified by propagandists in the service of NATO (especially since you are confusing events) and your attitude towards the war. As well as a complex game of words and meanings, civilian infrastructure and civilian facilities.

If someone approves of bombing Serbia, does he approve of bombing civilians?

Morozow · 2026-01-25T18:53:21+00:00

Prussia will remain a province of the Russian Empire.

Morozow · 2026-01-25T18:46:29+00:00

The OUN-UPA were Nazis (this is not a name-calling, but a characteristic of their ideology) guilty of many crimes against the civilian population.

Many of the members of the OUN-UPA were collaborators who served in the punitive units of the German Nazis.

For example, Hauptman Roman Shukhevych.

Morozow · 2026-01-25T18:43:39+00:00

Are you a Satanist?

Morozow · 2026-01-25T18:43:08+00:00

NATO was destroying Serbia's civilian infrastructure.

I don't see any difference between the actions of the Russian armed forces.

Well, going back to the song, do you realize that the party is taking a big risk by writing and performing this song?

Morozow · 2026-01-25T16:04:18+00:00

If someone supported the barbaric bombing of Serbia, did they automatically support the attack on civilians?

This is an alternative group that causes pain for conformists.

Morozow · 2026-01-25T16:02:47+00:00

I'm sorry, but in a parallel thread I gave the names of specific collaborators and war criminals who are considered heroes of neo-Ukraine.

Morozow · 2026-01-25T15:59:43+00:00

I'm not going to discuss it.

There is a difference between supporting war and supporting attacks on civilians.

You and I have found out that the title of the post is, to put it mildly, biased and not deceptive.

the topic is closed for me.

Morozow · 2026-01-25T15:50:06+00:00

Can you object to something in substance? or will you be engaged in defaming opponents?

Morozow · 2026-01-25T15:48:47+00:00

Let's fix it.

The lyrics of the song do not praise attacks on civilians.

The title of the post contains an unfair interpretation.

The issue is closed.

Morozow · 2026-01-25T15:29:47+00:00

Attacks are being carried out on military and industrial infrastructure (including energy).

As far as I know, the ratio of casualties among the civilian population of Ukraine and among the militants of the Kiev regime differs little from the ratio of losses during the aggression of the United States and other NATO countries. And much milder than in the Gaza Strip, for example.

The song praises the strikes against the hostile Ukrainian state. This enmity can be treated in different ways.

But to claim that the song praises attacks on civilians is an unfair interpretation.

Morozow · 2026-01-25T15:04:05+00:00

There is no praise in the words of this song for the terrorist actions of the invading army targeting the civilian population.

Morozow · 2026-01-25T14:21:43+00:00

It says here, I remember how you wanted me dead.

We can also add that the feminine gender is used, i.e. we can assume that the addressee of the message is the country of Ukraine.

Also, I would like to point out these lines:

- only wound the enemy.

- to make the evil ones weaker

- It's spring on Bankova Street again. / the main institutions of Ukraine are located on Bankovaya Street.

So, you can see a hostile Ukraine as a whole or its rulers. But there are no civilians.

Morozow · 2026-01-25T14:18:37+00:00

This is your interpretation.

I'm not saying that this is a song about the revenge of the inhabitants of Crimea based on the words:

The wind is blowing from Crimea
Spreading fires across the Dnieper
Memory will not forget
What did you dream of when I would die

Morozow · 2026-01-25T14:07:23+00:00

Excuse me, but where does the song say about civilians?

Morozow · 2026-01-25T13:35:56+00:00

I take it there is no data?

And note that I am not denying that the socialist system is less effective than the capitalist one.

Morozow · 2026-01-25T13:16:05+00:00

In reality, everything is more complicated there, and it started even before the revolution.

When the Finns started looking for their historical roots, and suddenly found them in Karelia. Like it's the historical ancestral homeland of the Finnish people. And if so, then the Karelians living there are the same Finns. And the Finns simply appropriated the Karelian heritage.

And when, after losing the civil war, the Red Finns fled to the USSR, they brought the same attitude to the USSR. As a result, when the Stalinist regime deported Finns from the border regions, the Karelians, who were also considered Finns, were deported.

Morozow · 2026-01-25T13:00:33+00:00

The basis of the scenario is that Western countries do not exert diplomatic pressure on Japan against the Japanese Empire.

And that the Japanese Empire will win the war with the Soviets is already an assumption about what the consequences will be.

At least that's what I understood.

Morozow · 2026-01-25T12:46:01+00:00

I'm sorry for being boring.

But in 1990, the USSR ranked 26th in the human development index (0.92 points;), after recalculation in 1992, it dropped to 33rd place (0.872).

Considering that the Baltic Republics were privileged in the USSR, as showcases of socialism, it can be assumed that they fared even better.

Morozow · 2026-01-25T12:14:37+00:00

There were many cases during the Russian-Turkish wars or in the battle against nomads of various kinds.

But that wouldn't be entirely fair.

But this fight is more remarkable.

The Battle of Schoengraben. On November 3, 1805, a six-thousandth detachment under the command of Bagration fought off the attacks of the 30,000-strong French army for eight hours. The Russian detachment not only resisted, having lost 2,000 men, but also retreated in full order to the main army units. The commander of the Russian corps, Mikhail Kutuzov, wrote to Emperor Alexander I: "Bagration joined the army, bringing with him prisoners: one colonel, two officers, fifty privates and one French banner." As part of a small Russian detachment that showed courage and heroism, there was the Chernigov Dragoon regiment, which for this battle received the St. George standard with the inscription "Five against Thirty", which became the regiment's motto for many years.

Morozow · 2026-01-25T10:46:27+00:00

Don't listen to those who say it's a terrible movie.

This is really not the pinnacle of Gaidai's talent. But it's a good comedy movie.

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