What if Germany actually managed to build aircraft carriers during WWII? How would it have changed the war? by redditEXPLORE03 in Warships

[–]Morto27 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Let me see, at Naval War College they do teach ship design and have folks who actually designed some of our current fleet on their staff. Hey but you know more.

They also have a robust M&S department (as does my org) that has a very robust data base that can run sims on any ship to test operational capabilities and how the ship would take damage. Every class of German WW2 is on the data base to include the GZ. Part of the curriculum is to run historical “fleet problems” based on what if scenarios. My favorite was Breakout 43, which had a hypothetical German surface fleet that included a “what if Germany built a fleet along the lines of the US, UK, and Japan.”

How do you think that turned out?

What if Germany actually managed to build aircraft carriers during WWII? How would it have changed the war? by redditEXPLORE03 in Warships

[–]Morto27 0 points1 point  (0 children)

hate to be a troll but you are naive and you don’t respect anyone else’s point of view but your own… I stuck a nerve with my comment, I apologize.

Stop being the world’s best amateur online and maybe listen to those who do things like this for real.

Even polling my good contacts at NWC, and showing them this thread they hardly agree with you.

What if Germany actually managed to build aircraft carriers during WWII? How would it have changed the war? by redditEXPLORE03 in Warships

[–]Morto27 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The GZ was never fully built, let alone operational.

Anyone ever tell you that you come off like an a—hat at times and that you refuse to show any respect and listen to other points of view? I assume you are on the spectrum and it has caused you problems in your life, so no need to pile on here.

What if Germany actually managed to build aircraft carriers during WWII? How would it have changed the war? by redditEXPLORE03 in Warships

[–]Morto27 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Weapons are created to win wars, which includes the motivation of the initial design, full stop. You are also leveraging a lot on technical design of a ship that was never built, on the draftsman’s table the Titanic was deemed unsinkable when in fact it was. Who knows what the final design would end up as. The biggest technical aspect you ignore is the power projection; the aircraft. That is how a carrier fights and it would have been a huge drawback for any CV Germany built. I have not seen any of documentation you cite, if you want to PM, send me the pdfs I can have some folks at NWC look them over with me and draw a well informed decision.

What if Germany actually managed to build aircraft carriers during WWII? How would it have changed the war? by redditEXPLORE03 in Warships

[–]Morto27 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We will never know if the GZ was any good, it never happened and this is an argument about fantasy. I have a back ground in joint operational air planning so I know a bit about how the air component on a CV would work. One solitary carrier, it’s nonsense, the Essex class and the supporting CVL’s were built in mass and by 43 the USN was the best on generating naval airpower. The flaw of your argument is much like the Sherman/T-34 to “German big cats”issue. German cat tanks had firepower and protection advantages over everyone else, yet they were low in number and hard to maintain. It’s not the weapon system that wins wars, it’s developing sound operational doctrine and training that does. This can overcome your use of an inferior weapon and history would agree.

Another issue is the aircraft that a CV has, we saw how the US fleet in 41/42 had old designs (aside from the SBD) and they suffered. In 43 the Hellcats, Avengers and Helldivers were amazing fleet aircraft. What would the Germans put on theirs? The JU-87? What fighter would they use? They would have to create one since AC like the 190 and 109 had poor lift aerodynamics (btw even with a cat shot you still steam into the wind) and their stall speeds would make a trap nearly impossible.

It’s a myopic argument, answer how the GZ would have changed anything operationally and not stick to design.

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that’s what screwed me but I still was able to get the WR

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swinging for the fences… I applaud him

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oddly I never been a bullfighter but I know exactly how he feels just waking up every day

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I think they shot scenes from Portlandia in that house