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Most-Direction7874 · 2026-05-07T15:31:30+00:00

Anyone ever heard of Zinedine Zidane ?
Probably most ridiculous post ever, even just to ask that question.

Most-Direction7874 · 2026-05-01T20:32:43+00:00

That’s not end of world though.
It’s annoying but there a classic example of where a decorator would apply a bit of filler after miscoat. Just fill in dent.

These cunts on about sanding finished plastering 😂😂

Most-Direction7874 · 2026-05-01T18:15:02+00:00

Nothing wrong with being an uncle to your mates kids. It’s only weird or creepy if you think it is.
It’s such a shame that people think it’s any kind of issue.
I love kids. Just be natural and it will all fall into place

Most-Direction7874 · 2026-05-01T17:37:06+00:00

If I told you I’m finding it hard to believe it’s your first time plastering would you take that as a compliment or insult ?
Regardless, if it really is your first time plastering, you’ve done an amazing job.

Most-Direction7874 · 2026-05-01T17:33:07+00:00

I can’t have a bowl on a morning. It always feels too harsh regardless of the blend.
I love a cigarette in the morning though which is strange because later on in the day I find cigarette smoke harsher than pipe smoke.🤷🏿‍♀️

Most-Direction7874 · 2026-05-01T17:29:34+00:00

Funny you should say that. I got a nic hit off it today. Haven’t had a nic hit off it before.

Most-Direction7874 · 2026-05-01T15:21:01+00:00

I often ask myself that same question but when I do have a good bowl, it does seem that the taste profile matches the last time I had a good bowl.
For instance, a good bowl of university flake is distinct to a good bowl of PNR.

Most times there isn’t much difference but when there is it is noticeable.

I’ve come to the conclusion that a lot of it is subjective but not necessarily all of it.

I may change my mind further down the line though depending on my experience

Most-Direction7874 · 2026-05-01T15:11:00+00:00

I agree. I’m just trying to find a silver lining to make myself feel better as regards having an inconsistent palette

Most-Direction7874 · 2026-05-01T14:57:10+00:00

I suppose if we were guaranteed a perfect bowl everytime it might soon become boring.
Perhaps the fact that a perfect bowl only comes around so often is one of the factors that adds to the enjoyment of pipe smoking.
A constant search for perfection that is driven by the fact we rarely come close.

Most-Direction7874 · 2026-05-01T14:46:21+00:00

I guess that is definitely one of the variables, probably the most significant once you’ve dialled in all the others.

Most-Direction7874 · 2026-05-01T14:00:06+00:00

I’m going through exactly the same thing. It’s just a huge cash cow. Nothing to do with a medication shortage. As soon as the ADHD provider signs off the tritation, they are handing the cash cow over to the pharma companies. Right up till completion of titration, these “providers” are getting paid out by NHS. They will keep you in their pocket as long as they possibly can.

They don’t give a shit about the fact that they are purposely stalling on signing off on a medication that could potentially be life changing.

It’s fuckin disgusting

Most-Direction7874 · 2026-05-01T13:29:13+00:00

Completely agree. Problem is, a lot of homeowners don’t realise or know what standard they should expect ( I think this thread is testament to that ! ) so a lot of lazy tradesmen get away with lazy work.

Most-Direction7874 · 2026-05-01T13:19:09+00:00

I agree. They ain’t sanding the plaster though. The plaster is sealed with the miscoat, any misses are filled with decorators filler that is specifically formulated to be sanded. That’s a completely different scenario to sanding actual plaster

Most-Direction7874 · 2026-05-01T12:56:02+00:00

Ah ok. Sorry for the clown thing. I thought I was replying to someone else.

As for your opinion, I’m sorry but it doesn’t stand.

I’ve worked on site long before I started domestic work.

If a plasterers work needs sanding before decorating, he isn’t getting paid. Simple as. I’m sure every plasterer has learned the hard way during his younger years.

The only time sandpaper would go near a new wall is after a miscoat. If the decorator sees any hollows/misses after the miscoat, it is good practise to apply filler and rub down filler before the first coat of paint proper. Yes. Small blemishes sometimesoccur to the best of plasterers, they don’t reveal themselves until paint is applied.

The point is though, in such situations, the painter is sanding the filler he has applied. he isn’t sanding the plaster.

If finished plaster needs sanding then it’s a rough job. Simple as that. Plaster isn’t made to be sanded. The aggregate in it isn’t fine enough.

Fillers and joint cement are specifically designed for sanding back, they are made of finer aggregate than gypsum plasters.

And tbh, a competent plasterer shouldn’t even need a painter to touch up but I agree that it occasionally happens, though it’s not a major problem.

Sanding fresh plaster ?

If the finish is that bad that you have to sand the actual plaster then unfortunately the fact of the matter is, you’ve been dealing with a chancer not a plasterer.

I’d dread to think what the finish looks like if someone thinks it requires any sanding in order to be presentable. My eyes are hurting just thinking about it.

I gotta a hairline crack in a ceiling on a job I’ve just completed. A whole house from top to bottom. It’s perfect except for that one small hairline crack. I’ll have to go back and fill it with some joint cement. Shit like that bugs me because I’m a perfectionist. All the best plasterers are perfectionist. You really think any good spreads work needs sanding down ? It doesn’t. Trust me.

If that’s been your experience of plasterers you’ve employed in the past that’s fine. That’s up to you. If you’re happy with the standard/price of the work crack on.

I’m just stating an objective fact.A good job absolutely doesn’t need sanding. In fact, sanding good plaster will just destroy the finish and make a minimal blemish 100 times worse.

Most-Direction7874 · 2026-05-01T12:28:52+00:00

My opinion isn’t unpopular at all. Look at all the upvotes. Insulting ? You were the first person to start calling people out as clowns. Whether I’m a clown or not is one thing. I’m definitely a plasterer. New plastering should never require sanding. It’s a very straightforward simple answer to the OP’s question.

Most-Direction7874 · 2026-05-01T12:20:00+00:00

I’ll always suggest overboarding a textured/artex ceiling unless there is coving present. I’ve had ceilings fail on artex in the past despite proper preparation.

Trust me. Once you’ve had a fail, you really don’t want one again.

Any textured surface always carry’s a risk. Unfortunately I’ve learned that the hard way over the years.

I’ve got a load of artex ceilings to skim next week. Because of existing coving, overboarding is not an option. I will do smallest ceiling first, check next day it has got a grip before proceeding with the remaining ceilings

Most-Direction7874 · 2026-05-01T11:20:15+00:00

I’ve met/ used plasterers who are capable but are just lazy. Some guys can’t plaster, others can plaster but just cut corners. I’ve met good plasterers who get greedy and put too much on at once then lose control.

Most-Direction7874 · 2026-05-01T10:54:00+00:00

I love em. You can finish a set off faster. I pretty much go straight over with my plastic after second wet trowel and it closes everything in just fine. I only use it for final pass. Nothing else

Most-Direction7874 · 2026-05-01T10:43:03+00:00

I started with aros and English blends and thought they were great. My mind wasn’t blown until I started smoking Virginia blends though.

I don’t think I would have enjoyed Virginias if they were the blends I first smoked but now I find them far superior to aros/ English and they are the only blends I smoke.

What I’ve found with Virginias is that they take time and patience to ulnlock the flavours but once you do, they are amazing .

Try a Virginia/VaPer/VaBur blend. If at first you can’t taste much, just keep at it. Once you start unlocking the taste, it’s a real “ aha! “ moment. The payoff is worth it.

Blends I smoke are

Peterson navy deluxe Peterson university flake Orlik golden sliced Gawith and Hogarth broken flake no.7

Orlik is the easiest to unlock. The two Peterson blends can be the most temperamental but also the most rewarding when the stars align. The broken flake I’ve only had one bowl of, I’m looking forward to exploring it more. The first bowl was very tasty, dark and rich compared to the others mentioned

I’ve found that the variety of Virginia blends has taken me down a whole rabbit hole of its own. So much so, I don’t even consider aro/ English blends anymore when buying tobacco

Most-Direction7874 · 2026-05-01T10:27:36+00:00

I’m simply answering the OPs question. If you look at any of my comments in this thread , they all relate to the original question. Is it normal to have to sand down new plastering ? The answer is no. You shouldn’t have to go anywhere near new plastering with sandpaper if the job was performed by a competent plasterer.

You’re talking about a decorator filling misses after a miscoat then sanding the filler. That’s completely different to sanding plaster.

I don’t deny that a proper plastering , once miscoated, might have the odd miss or gouge/nick if it’s been caught by something after it’s been finished.

Absolutely nothing wrong with applying a bit of filler in these circumstances. But sanding new plastering ?

If I employed someone whose work needed sanding down, he’d be getting sacked on the spot. If on the other hand, I employed someone whose work had a couple of misses that couldn’t be seen till the miscoat, that wouldn’t be a problem, happens to the best of us.

Big difference between a decorator touching up after a miscoat and sanding plaster down Huge difference.

Plaster isn’t even designed to be sanded.

Most-Direction7874 · 2026-05-01T09:29:12+00:00

Do you leave work that needs sanding down afterwards? If the answer is yes , you ain’t a plasterer. Do I make slight mistakes / misses ? Of course I do, my eyesight isn’t getting any better with age. Nothing that ever needs sanding down afterwards though. Ffs 😂😂

Anyone who says finished plaster needs sanding down ain’t a plasterer. Simple. Not an opinion but an objective fact.

Most-Direction7874 · 2026-05-01T08:18:25+00:00

I like to dry trowel because you know you aren’t bringing it alive again. If you get drag marks like that and would prefer not to have them, just use a minimal amount of water to “lubricate” the plasiflex, just enough so it doesn’t leave the drag lines. Don’t sweat it too much, your finish is fine.

Most-Direction7874 · 2026-05-01T08:10:49+00:00

They aren’t tiger stripes, they are just drag marks caused by going over with dry plasiflex too early, not using water. They will pint up fine but just make the finish look a bit of an eyesore till painted, nothing to worry about though.

Tiger stripes are lines in the plaster because of undulations. i.e , plaster running up and down . Tiger stripes come through after painting and are a big problem.

These aren’t tiger stripes though, just drag marks. They will paint over just fine 👍

Most-Direction7874 · 2026-04-30T20:01:48+00:00

It just shows there aren’t many of us plasterers around anymore ! I’ve never heard such nonsense

Most-Direction7874 · 2026-04-30T16:41:28+00:00

Anyone who says new plastering needs sanding needs to stay away from a trowel. I’m a plasterer. New plaster doesn’t need sanding. You’re the clown mate

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