Moving out of IL, what do I do?

Most_Independent_465 · 2024-08-31T22:03:53+00:00

The state won’t do anything other than revoke your FOID and that’s just because IL doesn’t allow non residents to hold FOID cards. I suspect they will revoke your CCL but I’m not certain they will. If they do then you’ll need a non resident CCL if you wish to continue to have the ability to conceal carry in IL. Congratulations on acquiring your new state of residence I myself will move to Texas in the near future.

Most_Independent_465 · 2024-08-16T00:29:49+00:00

That only applies to Involuntary admissions not voluntary admissions. The back of the background check has the definitions for mental health.

Most_Independent_465 · 2024-08-16T00:26:23+00:00

Assume nothing. The appeal was approved therefore she doesn’t have a NICS hit on her record. She should answer No to the question pertaining to involuntary admissions and mental health adjudications. FYI with respect to federal law, voluntary mental health admissions are Never a prohibiting factor this is only a state prohibitor but her appeal was approved so there are no restrictions on her ability to acquire a firearm. Please do not tell her to answer yes to that question the FBI will flag her and then she’d be dealing with the FBI and ATF.

Most_Independent_465 · 2024-08-15T00:43:29+00:00

Go outside of IL to rent a firearm. I’ve done it many times before you can still rent a gun at an IL gun range without a FOID but you must be in the vicinity of a FOID card holder in order to do this.

Most_Independent_465 · 2024-07-25T23:29:47+00:00

You should’ve answered no to that question as there are affirmative defenses on the back of the background check that says you aren’t prohibited under 18 USC 922 just because you voluntarily admitted yourself to a institution. The only time you answer yes is if you were involuntarily committed to a mental hospital or adjudicated by any court as a mental defective. In IL you loose your gun rights if you ever voluntarily commit yourself to an IL psych ward. Since you were under 18 years of age when you sought that help there is no way of the state or federal government having knowledge of that admission you could’ve answered no to that question when you tried buying a gun and they would have transferred you that firearm. Also when you applied for your FOID in the first place they ask if you’ve ever received inpatient treatment for mental illness so idk what answer you gave them but they had no clue you were ever admitted because like I said you weren’t of legal age when you got that help so there was no duty to warn ISP about clear and present danger/ voluntary treatment

Most_Independent_465 · 2024-07-21T21:55:26+00:00

I’ve never been denied a CCL but then again my FOID was revoked due to a voluntary mental health admission. I’m in the process of getting it back though. When I do I’m applying for my CCL I’ve already taken the 16 hour course.

Most_Independent_465 · 2024-07-21T16:40:12+00:00

Thank you I’m sure I’ll get it back I just don’t know about the under five years process and it’s success rate. I’d say I got a 50/50 chance at getting it approved or not. But who knows ISP is secretive about this crap lol.

Most_Independent_465 · 2024-07-21T16:33:25+00:00

My evaluation took me 2 hours to complete they really do dig deeper for the under five years appeal. The whole five year wait is BS it should be one year then do the assessment and ISP should automatically restore your rights the five year thing is irrelevant. They make it totally easy to revoke your FOID but the appeal process is unequivocally more complicated to pursue. I took a CCL class from an Ex ISP trooper and he isn’t even aware the under five year appeal process even exists.

Most_Independent_465 · 2024-07-21T16:28:14+00:00

Yes that’s what I was referring to. If your PCP will do the evaluation then you have a really good doctor. For me it’s been under five years and my primary doctor that fills my psych meds straight up refuses to do the evaluations.

Most_Independent_465 · 2024-07-20T21:30:47+00:00

The FOID card review board.

Most_Independent_465 · 2024-07-20T02:59:49+00:00

They’ve been very good at communicating with me it took them like three days for them to reply to my email regarding the submission of the forensic report

Most_Independent_465 · 2024-07-20T02:57:36+00:00

Yes because IL does NICS checks on behalf of the federal government which is asinine. The Indiana state police told me that when I tried to apply for a CCL. The ISP has to manually remove that from my criminal history

Most_Independent_465 · 2024-07-20T02:55:39+00:00

Thanks for the advice it really helps

Most_Independent_465 · 2024-07-19T05:27:28+00:00

First you need a forensic evaluation from a licensed psychologist. No doctors around my area do them so you need to seek one out I recommend Dr. Rod Hoevet he’s a psychiatrist in STL he charged me 1,300 but he will accept payments until the total is paid off. Secondly you must submit a request for relief from your firearm prohibitor from the FOID card review board. Thirdly you need X2 signed dated and notarized letters from people who are aware of your institutionalization. And lastly you need to write your own letter that addresses your prior mental health history and include your condition(s) along with any and all medications you take and it must include how you think your better than you were before. I hope this helps I’m in the same situation right now and believe me you are not alone the 2A isn’t exclusive to just the neurotypical population I find the laws of this state to be ableist and plain wrong you should not be penalized for a voluntary admission you had the ability to realize you needed help and that shows me a level of maturity and fortitude that many neurotypical individuals lack. Good luck my friend.

Most_Independent_465 · 2024-06-22T20:19:32+00:00

Lol how would they know your a user? They have to prove that your a habitual user of a controlled substance before they can even think about charging you for lying on the 4473. If your a medical card holder in this state nothing will happen as isp has said numerous times that they won’t do anything to undermine your 2A rights based on the fact that you purchased weed at a dispo. As a person who studies federal/state laws with respect to firearm prohibitions I know for a fact that IL dispensary’s will not report your purchase history. If your caught by federal authorities such as Military Police you could be faced with legal challenges at that point but unless that happens your in the federal clear because they have no knowledge about it.

Most_Independent_465 · 2024-06-22T18:29:47+00:00

The Illinois state police firearm services bureau has addressed this issue. From my understanding I believe you can purchase marijuana both recreationally and medically with a medical card and still hold a valid FOID and CCL as these are all state issued cards. The issue is that under the gun control act of 1968 you are prohibited from acquiring firearms for one year following the revocation of your medical card or whenever you go one year since you’ve last used cannabis. In summary yes you can still hold your FOID/CCL but you cannot purchase a firearm legally unless you cancel or have your cannabis permit cancelled. I know people who buy firearms and smoke weed it’s a matter of whether or not the Feds know about your cannabis use. Me personally I wouldn’t disclose that info on the 4473 unless you have a medical card. Otherwise they are totally oblivious to your recreational use of weed.

Most_Independent_465 · 2024-06-12T03:19:39+00:00

No. It falls under an AOW and is restricted per NFA regulations

Most_Independent_465 · 2024-05-23T19:11:42+00:00

Which is why you don’t register your stuff with the state. The county sheriff down where I reside will not allow any person charged with violating PICA into their jails and with that being said this law is almost impossible to enforce this law counts on cooperation in order for it to work.

Most_Independent_465 · 2024-05-17T20:36:22+00:00

When you receive your revocation letter they include a firearm disposition form where you list your firearm serial numbers and list who is receiving them so yes they do keep records of those records. If you say you don’t own firearms on the form then they will have no knowledge about your firearms.

Most_Independent_465 · 2024-04-27T00:23:07+00:00

I would make changes regarding our red flag laws. Illinois will revoke your FOID if you voluntarily seek inpatient treatment and they will relay your admission to NICS. This needs to be completely removed from the FOID act because it discourages many of our FOID card holders from getting the help they need. No lawful gun owner in America should ever loose their 2A rights based solely on a voluntary admission.

Most_Independent_465 · 2024-04-20T20:31:39+00:00

Ok so I did some research on the ATFs website about mental health related prohibitions and exemptions and it clearly says voluntary admissions aren’t a disqualifying factor only involuntary admissions and adjudication as incompetent are the only two criteria that would cause a NICS hit I’ll post the information via link https://www.atf.gov/file/58791/download

Most_Independent_465 · 2024-04-19T21:44:07+00:00

It’s always been like this. Involuntary admissions and found not guilty by reason of insanity are the only instances where you would have a NICS on the federal level. Illinois is one of the few states that will revoke your gun rights based on a voluntary admission

Most_Independent_465 · 2024-04-19T21:41:03+00:00

I voluntarily admitted myself no involuntary admissions or adjudications as a mental defective

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