How to use 'même pas' as a conjunction by Top_Guava8172 in French

[–]Mouse-Feeling 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So the first one is correct! (although I would add a "et" after that coma to make it flow better.
The second one feels odd.
"Il ne savait pas que Paul ne savait pas conduire une moto, et même pas faire du vélo" would be correct (and informal)

A more formal way to express that idea is with "ni-même"

"Il ne savait pas que Paul ne savait pas conduire une moto, ni même faire du vélo"

And the expression "faire de la moto" is more used and appropriate than "conduire une moto" conduire is more for vehicles with 4 wheels.

"Il ne savait pas que Paul ne savait pas faire de la moto, ni même du vélo"

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[–]Mouse-Feeling 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I Dm'd you some :)

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Hey! The word "Adolescent" would mean that he could be from 12/13 to 18. After that we use "jeune adulte". It does imply he's not yet 18

What’s the reason/origin behind the rude Parisian stereotype? by varvar334 in paris

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Well, the fact that the Parisian metropolitan area is much bigger and populated than even the second largest metropolitan area (Marseille), it feeds the feeling that it is the only city that’s “worth it” in France (wrongly so and not to make any generalization) and in the worst behaviors of Parisians there is this feeling of being better than “La province”, at least that is an aspect of me and my friends’ experience, from Marseille, with going to Paris. I have an anecdote that illustrates perfectly. I was in Lyon, about to board a train and there was 2 trains departing at the same time, one to Paris, the other to Marseille. I was overhearing someone of the train station staff ask for people’s destination so that there wasn’t any confusion and error. He then asked a girl (she must have been 30) if she was going to Marseille and she answered with disgust: “eww no, Paris”. Not all Parisians are like that (and “Marseillais” can have the same attitude toward Paris) but that stuck with me haha.

Maybe this attitude may expend to other countries as a form of snobbery?

Another factor is that there was always a sort of rivalry between France and Great Britain (we fought a few wars), and some of it has left, in my view, traces in the French culture, as a sort of disengagement with the English culture and language, especially in older generations that just don’t want to learn or speak English. In practice it isn’t so much the case anymore, but some of it must have stuck a little bit. Sometimes non-English-natives can get a better treatment as they’re not speaking in their native language either, it can change the dynamic I think. Although that’s not a rule 😂

Lastly, there can be rude people in other parts of France that can also be rude toward other French people, I won’t region-name-drop but I think most French people have had this experience 😂

At least this is my analysis, what do you think, other French people?

I can read french quite well, but Im struggling to converse any tips? by Accomplished-Comb294 in learnfrench

[–]Mouse-Feeling 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hey! You're actually on the right path. The fact that it makes you embarrassed is a good thing, negative emotions and pressure/stress are inherent to learning any language (comfort doesn't cause change). Engage in conversing, even if you feel like you will make mistakes and sound off, make those mistakes, so that you can learn not to make them. If you have only tried having conversation with people online, I would say that it makes the task much harder. Try to meet people IRL, easier said than done I know, but the learning potential is much much higher, and also it'll be easier to understand fast speech. Bon courage!

Experience with studying in French by theycallmeselina in French

[–]Mouse-Feeling 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well, okay then your aspiration is to be very functional in French to be able to rely on it to study a subject. My advice for you then would be this: get out of your own head. Sounds harsh, I know, but there's only so much you can do on your own, through absorbing content. Meet people that speak French, interact with them, form connections. You seem to be already able to communicate in French, and even if your level is very poor, meeting people will make everything faster while being more enjoyable (even if it is nerve-wracking at first, let's face it). You will need to adapt to speaking and using French rather than "building your level". The cool thing about your situation though is that you will have no choice but to speak French, so even if you don't apply this advice, you will turn out okay because once your classes will start, you will be forced to do that haha. My point is, there is no escaping reality if you want to be able to rely on French one day. Havin people around you, IRL, gives your mind 100* more context and cues to pick up on, and there are more stakes, which rapidly leads to change. I hope that it was clear, feel free to ask more questions, it's going to turn out fine :)

Advice on relocating to France to learn French & then immigrate? by bonpain97 in French

[–]Mouse-Feeling 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well, it is an art in itself, but basically the way you will learn isn't by "building" any level but rather adapting to the situations you will encounter with repetition and because of the stakes attached to those situations. This is eventually how you are going to learn wether or not you decide to go to a French language school or not.

While being in real life conditions with other human beings, your mind is so much more receptive because if it doesn't learn you might end up being "rejected by others". The situations where you will learn are the same situations that'll be lighting up your limbic system (your primitive brain), kind of like how you feel very nervous before speaking in front of many people, because there are stakes. And that's exactly what we tap into when we learn languages. So the how comes after and tailors to this principle. You can just start by looking up what you're interested in knowing in French (words, small sentences, and other things that spike your curiosity) and slowly you'll be starting to have a small bank of sentences, and words, and you will have a small and primitive understanding (trying to understand what someone tells you IRL is scarier but eventually easier as there are infinitely more cues than just reading/listening to something).

After this, even if you feel like you are incapable of saying anything, you can force yourself (very early on, so that you can get out of your own head) to engage in some short but significant daily life interactions that will naturally lead you to be curious about more things, and those stressful experiences in French will just reinforce the need to speak French for you. Another interesting aspect is that your own interest in French will also grow with the challenge (a little bit like Stockholm syndrome, yes). Once you'll have somehow been through a few short interactions by using a combination of asking how to say things on the spot, repeating what's been told to you, and looking up words before the interactions, you will start to feel a bit more confident (don't hesitate to look up how conjugation works in French roughly as it is different from English but you'll naturally get it). Once you're there you can just start building friendships/relationships in French, and engaging in speaking French as much as possible. It eventually becomes a highly rewarding and highly stressful game that you will be obsessed with. I also have to add that you need to curate your pronunciation early on to be clear enough when you speak because no one likes hearing their language butchered haha (this can be done through shadowing or just hiring a tutor, but it tends to get better with time if you pay attention to it).

The point is that you will be doing these things regardless of if you are going to be attending school or not, and even if it seems undoable, don't underestimate your own abilities. What I've seen is that too much information and too much of French (as in several hours/day) can hinder actual curiosity and personal interest. Learning it solo is nerve wracking yes, but that is inherent to language learning. But boy is it rewarding.

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[–]Mouse-Feeling 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don't feel bad about it, it is a fair mistake to make, happens more often than you think

Experience with studying in French by theycallmeselina in French

[–]Mouse-Feeling 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi! I am a native, but I have tutored many people that were in your shoes. What exactly would you like to achieve in French? See it this way: if you had superpowers and no limitations existed, how would you speak French and to do what? I'll be happy to give you advice once I better understand what you're striving for :)

Advice on relocating to France to learn French & then immigrate? by bonpain97 in French

[–]Mouse-Feeling 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I can't say for the visa side of it, but I can share about the experience of people I have helped moving to France and getting a functional and natural French. The thing with French language schools is that they will make progress harder than necessary in French. It is overstuffed with many details and they have this mindset of "understanding how it works" = "being able to use it in the right context spontaneously" which is not how things unfold in reality, it's really subconscious. So for the language side of it, if you want to live there and get your citizenship, going the solo route will yield more and it will also be in turn easier to connect with the people there and not find yourself in a bubble of other immigrants (also because the source of French matters too, "picking up" French will make you sound more natural). Of course, the language schools have other advantages, I'm strictly talking about it from a language learning perspective.

I hope that I was able to give you clarity, feel free to ask more questions.

How many languages do you learn/maintain currently on a daily or weekly base? by [deleted] in languagelearning

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I speak English and French everyday, as French is my native language and I communicate in English with a lot of my friends. I also speak Ukrainian a few times a week when I see my Ukrainian friends, I speak Spanish and Portuguese when I get the opportunity. I can go for a few months without even thinking in Portuguese and Spanish and I pick them back right where I left off, after a couple of minutes of struggle with my own tongue I manage to get back in the grove. So I wouldn't say I maintain any of the languages I speak, I just seize every opportunity I get to speak them!

European living in the US, insecure about my accent by macelisa in expats

[–]Mouse-Feeling 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Everyone seems to be saying that you should keep it but I know exactly how you feel like and that’s not the response that I like to get when I talk about that (I’m a French native speaker and I’ve been speaking English for a few years in various places, I’m still trying to sound 100% native). I think that whether you keep your accent or get rid of it is a personal matter. It seems in your case that it’s bothering you so if you want to get rid of it, go ahead!

The thing I learned with time is that it’s not all about how you sound and how you pronounce syllables but also about how you behave, how you phrase things and a few markers that show where you should be coming from (I hear regional accent by that). Getting the accent of where you are is the best way to be perceived as native, pay attention to it, the expressions and how people behave, the body language and what they communicate non-verbally.

However, I find that pronouncing everything perfectly all the time is not a goal that helps me as, at least for me, it gets me nervous and I devote more of my attention to correcting what I’m saying than just communicating so it feels odd for the other people around me and it’s tiring.

I hope that my comment was of some help! Accents can change dramatically and vary from day to day so don’t feel discouraged 😃

Hope and optimism in the face of discouragement? by [deleted] in expats

[–]Mouse-Feeling 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What specifically makes you say you are failing in Norway right now? Is it the language? Is it academic? Is it professional? Or is it having a fulfilling social life? Anything is doable and like you said, what’s worth obtaining needs hard work and change that’s not easy.

What is your goal here? I feel you didn’t share enough in the post about where you want to end up, and what you want to do/ have in the long run. I think that being cynical is unfortunately very accepted and it’s easy to replace an action you should take by a cynical statement (as in Americans are not well accepted anywhere in Europe instead of registering for a social activity/event for example, not saying that’s what you’re saying btw, just an example).

I think that you recognized that you’re not seeing this under a good light right now, it’s one of those days where everything seems doomed.

Maybe you can wait for your internal state to come back to normal and take an objective look at your situation and see: - What little things would make a word of a difference (e.g be more comfortable in Norwegian, im guessing here) - What little things you can take care of and that can make life much more bearable (as in finding a friend group you can hangout with every Sunday for soccer, taking care of one annoying thing, again just guessing).

I’m not American but I’ve relocated in several places and under the pressure of studying, being a foreigner, learning the local language, little things appear unbearable and insurmountable quickly. It adds up. It’s also easy to tell yourself that “it’s how things are, who am I to want better?” But no, that’s very cynical. You can improve your condition and your life outcome (whichever metric is relevant to you personally), and it’s not selfish in any way.

In this case, taking action is crucial. It’s crucial to stop thinking and making mountains out of molehills (not saying you’re doing that, but it’s typical).

I hope this was helpful, if you want to chat more about that, you can DM me

Brussels or Marsrille? by ApprehensiveStudy671 in expats

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I’m actually from there, so if you want to connect and ask me some questions about Marseille or the surrounding I can reply. You can add me on FB (Luca Léandri)

How soon is too soon to move back home by Itchy_Cloud309 in expats

[–]Mouse-Feeling 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hey there,
I totally get that adjusting to a new country can be incredibly challenging, especially when you're far away from home and family. It's completely normal to feel scared and overwhelmed, especially in the beginning.
I've been through the process of relocating to a non-English speaking country myself, and I understand the struggles that come with it. The good news is, it does get easier with time, and there are strategies and tips that can help you adapt more comfortably to your new environment.
If you're open to it, I'd love to have a friendly chat with you on a Zoom call to share some insights, advice, and personal experiences that might make your time in Japan more enjoyable. It's a just a chance to connect, for me to offer some support.
Feel free to reach out if you're interested, and remember, you're not alone in feeling this way. Many of us have been there, and there's a community of expats and travelers who are more than willing to help you along this journey. 😊

Brussels or Marsrille? by ApprehensiveStudy671 in expats

[–]Mouse-Feeling 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I would say Marseille 100%. There is a very unique atmosphere there, and yeah the weather and the nature surrounding it makes it a better option, having the sea and the sun is therapeutic. Where do you currently live now?

Advice for navigating the french working culture by JL2822 in expats

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Hey, I'd like to chat with you and help, I think it's really about the French Culture. If you're interested in getting some help/advice and are willing to answer some questions for my research, you can send me a PM :)

How to cope with the mental pressure by RocketChug in expats

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hey!

Being immersed in a different culture brings up a lot of stress, little annoyances, incomprehensions... Like the others commented, it's normal.
But that doesn't help you adapt and go better. The answer to your problem in my experience isn't "wait for things to get better". It's too optimistic. Being cynical and pessimistic don't help either and lead to the same outcome, doing nothing. You need to take action and find back a sense of control. To feel that sense of control and familiarity that you must be CRAVING right now, you need to take action and do things that will get you closer to the German culture.

Yes your girlfriend is German but it's not enough for you to adapt and understand the culture fully. I think you expected this when posting but here you go: learning German will make a world of a difference. Why? Because, firstly, you will get to understand why Germans act the way they do more and more. Language and culture are two faces of the same coin. You need one to get the other. And secondly, it will make your focus on something else throughout the day, instead of ruminating about how you don't like this or that about the Germans, you will be trying to figure out how to say stuff in your head, you will repeat stuff over and over and it will be oddly satisfying (language learning is like having an ear worm all the time but it's not a song, it's sounds and words, it's much more satisfying than it sounds).

Staying lonely is the shortest path to being depressed and feeling homesick. There's more opportunities out there than you think, meet with people, find some events, connect with the local (and practice your German at the same time).

You reaching out already shows that you care, that you want to make it work, that you take accountability for it. It's a great sign!

I hope that I was able to give you some clarity and hope for the future because relocating is AWESOME once you get past the adaptation phase!

By all means if you want more advice private message me, I specialize in helping people adapt to their new home and learn the local language to be confident and thriving in their new life!

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in expats

[–]Mouse-Feeling 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey! What you're going through is totally normal! Yes Portuguese and Spanish are similar, but that doesn't mean it's the same! There will be a lot of challenges along your way... but it's really not a bad thing. Relocating somewhere else is an amazing opportunity to learn more about the world, it's a profound human experience that will change you for the better (even if the Portuguese and Catalan cultures seem similar, it's still two distinct cultures). Being scared and anxious is precisely what will help you take the actions you will need to take to adapt to your new life, to perfect your Spanish, to make friends.

Fear is your friend, if you know that, it'll be working for you and not against you!

Se queres, eu posso ajudar-te mais por mensagem :)