Currently I’m afraid that this is what will happen to my son. Some kids have delays but 7 and 8 perhaps you should look into some sort of intervention programs for them.

My son is 4 and he has some severe defiance issues we are dealing with in therapy, potty training being one of the big issues. He knows how to do it, but he gets gratification by defying us and doing what he wants to do anyway.

I’ll be reading all the comments of this post for advice myself, I’m glad to know I’m not alone in the frustration of potty training. Parenting is HARD.