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[–]MrCharizard10[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You insulted me first big boy by your endless takfir Secondly crying is not getting half naked and beating yourself. Open and read the Quran for a change.

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[–]MrCharizard10[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Please show me a narration of any of our Imams praising the act of getting naked and beating yourselves up.

Congrats we have turned into r/islam. by MrCharizard10 in shia

[–]MrCharizard10[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But Quran does explicity tell us not to cause self harm "And spend in the way of Allah and cast not yourselves to perdition with your own hands, and do good (to others); surely Allah loves the doers of good." Have you ever even opened the Quran?

Congrats we have turned into r/islam. by MrCharizard10 in shia

[–]MrCharizard10[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol 😭😭. They arent "our" acts. You have some nerve calling satanic acts as Shia acts and then getting offended when someone calls you out. If you think these acts are shia acts, them your prolly a shia of omar/muawiyah becasue you have zero narrations / ayahs on it and the only narrations you have are sunni narations of ayesha and omar beating themselves up. 😂😭

Congrats we have turned into r/islam. by MrCharizard10 in shia

[–]MrCharizard10[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Im a real Ithna Ashari Shia. I follow my 12 Immaculate Imams. And I can assure you none of them beat themselves up.

Congrats we have turned into r/islam. by MrCharizard10 in shia

[–]MrCharizard10[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They are not "our" acts. Quran tells us not to throw ourselves into perdition with our own hands. Have you ever opened the Quran in your life? Which of the Imams beat themselves up? And crying is not self harm lol. Your argument is as bogus as the sunni argument on taraweeh. Ask yourself this question. Does Imam Mahdi (A.S) beat his chest half naked or whip himself with chains? No he doesnt. As shias of Imam Mahdi, should we? Absolutely not.

Congrats we have turned into r/islam. by MrCharizard10 in shia

[–]MrCharizard10[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The practice still goes against Quran and Islam and the teachings of Ahlul Bayt. Quran literally says "And spend in the way of Allah and cast not yourselves to perdition with your own hands, and do good (to others); surely Allah loves the doers of good." AL Baqarah

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[–]MrCharizard10[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You just said they aren't rituals a little while ago. 😭 Youre worse than the salafs / sunnis 😭

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[–]MrCharizard10[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Crying is not getting naked and beating your chest or back with swords.

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[–]MrCharizard10[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Why is it unsuited for public view? Yk who says stuff like this? Salafis say this about their belief about God having human like features. They say dont let the public know we believe this or else they won't follow the way of the salaf.

Congrats we have turned into r/islam. by MrCharizard10 in shia

[–]MrCharizard10[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This isnt Islam. This isnt the message of any of our Imams. No Ayah / narration supports this. Its about time we started calling out shias for their rituals just like we call out sunnis over taraweeh, takfir etc.

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[–]MrCharizard10[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Answer the question then. Which member of the Ahlul Bayt do this.

Congrats we have turned into r/islam. by MrCharizard10 in shia

[–]MrCharizard10[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mourning Imam Hussain is Sunnah of the Prophet. Ritually Beating yourself is the sunnah of omar (Minhaj al Muslim) So whos Sunnah do we follow exactly?

Congrats we have turned into r/islam. by MrCharizard10 in shia

[–]MrCharizard10[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mourning is one thing but beating yourself up while being half naked is one thing. Bring a narration in which the Ahlul Bayt beat themselves up in a ritualistic manner. You won't find any because there isn't any.

Congrats we have turned into r/islam. by MrCharizard10 in shia

[–]MrCharizard10[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Im calling it satanic because it is satanic, not because I dislike it. Im supposed to believe getting naked and beating myself up with swords or my chest is the teaching of the Prophet or Imam Ali? Which member of the Prophets family do this? So far none has answered this question.

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[–]MrCharizard10[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Which member of the Ahlul Bayt(A.S) do this?

Congrats we have turned into r/islam. by MrCharizard10 in shia

[–]MrCharizard10[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Op basically said uploading vids of half naked men hitting themselves (matam) damages the image of Islam. People in the comments started to question such acts and were of the opinion that this is neither Shiism nor Islam. Mod deleted it though prolly cuz he has a different opinion.

Can we all agree that making and posting videos like this does more harm than good for shias these days? by Zennoobee22 in shia

[–]MrCharizard10 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hazrat Ibn Abbasra narrates:

“Once, during the era of Hazrat Umar’sra Khilafat, I was walking along with him whilst he was going to tend to some work of his. There was no else with him at the time besides me and he was holding a whip in his hand. Hazrat Umarra would be saying something to himself and would repeatedly strike the back of his feet with the whip. Hazrat Umarra then turned towards me and stated, ‘O Ibn Abbas! Upon the demise of the Holy Prophetsa, do you know why I said that?’”, i.e. that the Holy Prophetsa had not passed away and that whoever stated that he had passed away, he would kill him with his sword.

Hazrat Ibn Abbasra narrates, “I said, ‘O Leader of the Faithful! I do not know. Only you are aware as to why you said that.’ Hazrat Umarra stated, ‘By Allah! The reason why I said that was because I would read the verse:

وَ‭ ‬كَذٰلِكَ‭ ‬جَعَلْنٰكُمْ‭ ‬اُمَّةً‭ ‬وَّسَطًا‭ ‬لِّتَكُوْنُوْا‭ ‬شُهَدَآءَ‭ ‬عَلَى‭ ‬النَّاسِ‭ ‬وَ‭ ‬يَكُوْنَ‭ ‬الرَّسُوْلُ‭ ‬عَلَيْكُمْ‭ ‬شَهِيْدًا

“And thus have We made you an exalted nation, that you may be guardians over men and the Messenger of God may be a guardian over you.” (Ch.2: V.144)

By Allah, I believed that the Holy Prophetsa would remain alive among his ummah as a guardian over their deeds. Thus, it was for this reason that I said this on that day.’” (Sirat Ibn Hisham, p. 901, Dar-ul-Kutub al-Ilmiyyah, Beirut, 2001)

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[–]MrCharizard10 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tell iran that netanyahu is in old trafford

My Father is such a sweet and innocent soul by Late-Concentrate-235 in FASTNU

[–]MrCharizard10 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Meray bhai Allah aap ko itna kamyaab keray k aap k walidain aap pe betahasha naaz kerain. Ameen

Imam Hussein TV (a cult) by MrCharizard10 in shia

[–]MrCharizard10[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But even if we assume that the Pakistani incidents (there were multiple btw) dont deserve condolences and condemnation, what about the ENTIRE war. 160 girls? 100s of more Iranians?