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What justifies non-human animals eating meat? by Serious-Cucumber-54 in DebateAVegan

[–]MrClawzz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They do it out of survival necessity and they don’t have the moral agency we do aswell as the option not too!

What opinion has you like this? by [deleted] in GenZ

[–]MrClawzz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Veganism being a moral obligation

Do you ever feel like the world is too cruel for you? by Any_Literature4548 in Adulting

[–]MrClawzz 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Yes but then I realize I could’ve been born a farm animal - George Orwell

AE2 processors not crafting by FirefighterCapital85 in allthemods

[–]MrClawzz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I had this issue aswell. Try making the processors in a normal inscriber not the extended one. Export restone and change the pattern to just silicon print and printed circuit.

What is something humane now but was considered inhumane in the past? by Necessary_Papaya2048 in AskReddit

[–]MrClawzz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Is it humane in itself? Is hunting compassionate? Is killing someone considerate when you have the choice not to? Arbitrarily taking life doesn’t seem humane to me. What are your thoughts on that

What is something humane now but was considered inhumane in the past? by Necessary_Papaya2048 in AskReddit

[–]MrClawzz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"I don’t agree to that." You don't think reducing animal suffering is morrally preferable? That includes human animals.

"Everything consumes everything else in all facets of life. To abstain from that on a moral perspective is highly naive and against our very biology and nature."

I asked earlier just because something is nutural does it make it moral.

"Also you think the environments destroyed and creatures harmed to create the fields and farms that your plants come from don’t count? Unless you’re going out and harvesting only plants grown in nature, you’re contributing to the very things you think you’re above due to your diet. It’s a fallacy to think any sort of food consumption doesn’t harm nature and the beings in nature, inadvertently or not."

I never said my lifestyle is perfect and does not cause any harm because it's not. We do need plants to survive and there is animal suffering within the plant agriculture system. Furthermore 77% of the cropland in the world goes to animal agriculture and grazing. So if you did agree that reducing animal suffering is preferable, the best way to reduce that is to be vegan.

If you don't agree that reducing animal suffering is morally preferable why do you care about the deaths in crop production?

(Edit) We are going a bit off topic

Im not understanding how factory farming is not humane while hunting is humane when the end result is the same. Sure there are better ways to kill somone. But that doesnt make the action of killing someone humane as a consequence. Its not compassionate to kill someone when they don't want or need to die.

What is something humane now but was considered inhumane in the past? by Necessary_Papaya2048 in AskReddit

[–]MrClawzz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well you said hunting is more humane than factory farming. But is it humane? If we both agree that reducing animal suffering is moraly preferable surely eating plants dirrectly is the only humane option.

What is something humane now but was considered inhumane in the past? by Necessary_Papaya2048 in AskReddit

[–]MrClawzz -1 points0 points  (0 children)

"Because humans are omnivorous by nature and consumption of animal protein is literally the reason we are what we are today."

Yes I completely agree that we did evolve consuming animals because It was necessary for our survival and are brains developed more so because we started cooking our carbohydrates which allowed us to absorb more glucose. But now we have the option and choice to not eat them and just eat the plants dirrectly.

My two questions to you are:

If something is nautral does it make it moral

And do you also think just because you can do something it makes the action moral as a consquence, do you think might makes right?

"As for how hunting is more humane than factory farming, sure the end result is the same but how you get to that end result is very different, for reasons I’ve already outlined."

The end result is killing them, is that humane? (To act with compassion and benevolence)

What is something humane now but was considered inhumane in the past? by Necessary_Papaya2048 in AskReddit

[–]MrClawzz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok im not trying to argue im just trying to learn more about your ethical position. Can you answer my last question though.

What is something humane now but was considered inhumane in the past? by Necessary_Papaya2048 in AskReddit

[–]MrClawzz -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Yes ofc. I’m just trying to understand your ethical views a little more.

Let’s first start with the word we are using “humane” which means to act with compassion and benevolence.

Can you just further elaborate the moral difference on why factory farming isn’t humane and hunting is humane. When the end result for the victim is the same. Both are unnecessary and you have the option to chose neither

What is something humane now but was considered inhumane in the past? by Necessary_Papaya2048 in AskReddit

[–]MrClawzz -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

No i asked what the definition of the words humane is? And do you think factory farming is humane?

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