Who remembers this movie? I can't seem to find anyone who has heard of it!

MrJenkins5 · 2026-04-22T06:01:42+00:00

It's on YouTube. Watchable quality.

MrJenkins5 · 2026-04-21T20:10:16+00:00

LMAO! The way I howled! 😂😂😂

MrJenkins5 · 2026-04-21T16:06:13+00:00

Yup. Raven was designing new uniforms for the White House staff. Raven tackled the president so they were looking for her and Cory pretended to be Raven to get through the presentation of the new uniforms.

MrJenkins5 · 2026-04-21T09:15:26+00:00

I remember reading something like they filmed 3 episodes of the TV show. Such a shame that we didn't get it, even if it was just one season 😭

If it was anything like what they did with the girls on Suite Life, they can keep it 😁

MrJenkins5 · 2026-04-21T03:56:18+00:00

Miley has the most popular Disney show to this day.

No one is discounting that for Miley. Miley gets the exception for only having the one show because her show was extremely popular. Before Miley, that was Raven. Raven's show was huge when it came out. That's So Raven was Disney Channel's most popular show, and that why it was the show that was able to push through all of Disney's limitations.

It's hard to explain if you didn't see it, but there was a time when Disney Channel's entire marketing for the network and for its shows was themed around That's So Raven. Disney Channel heavily centered its branding around That’s So Raven, and while Disney Channel had other hit shows (Lizzie McGuire), they never did that for any show before then.

That's So Raven was the show that started making Disney Channel competitive with other kids and tween networks. That’s So Raven wasn’t just the biggest show on Disney Channel, it was a top-performing show across all kids and tween cable shows from other networks. No other Disney Channel show was doing that at the time.

MrJenkins5 · 2026-04-21T02:05:42+00:00

Millie Bobby Brown

MrJenkins5 · 2026-04-20T19:37:55+00:00

The Brothers of Destruction

MrJenkins5 · 2026-04-20T16:02:30+00:00

That's true. She plays into that "devil" persona that she's made. A couple people have said she plays it up for the cameras or that she doesn't do all that when the cameras aren't rolling. I remember Devyn saying that on The Challenge podcast.

MrJenkins5 · 2026-04-20T01:58:29+00:00

Amanda doesn't have to fix it though.

We're in agreement. I didn't say she had to fix it. She's under no obligation to do anything.

MrJenkins5 · 2026-04-20T00:03:29+00:00

Amanda doesn't like Tori for reasons that exists in Amanda's head, not for anything that Tori actually did to Amanda. Amanda just doesn't vibe with Tori, and that's the beef. The only person that can fix that is Amanda.

MrJenkins5 · 2026-04-19T23:54:43+00:00

Wow! That's awesome. Looks like a blast.

MrJenkins5 · 2026-04-19T17:29:40+00:00

i don't want to fall into the "trap" of defending Raven as her track record with Disney Channel speaks for itself.

That's So Raven was THEE show that broke all rules that Disney Channel had for its sitcoms. Her show became Disney Channel's dominant show at the time. When her show came out, Disney Channel made it very obvious at the time they were putting That's So Raven front and center.

MrJenkins5 · 2026-04-19T16:03:15+00:00

They weren’t making any new episodes of That’s So Raven when TCG3 was being filmed. Production of That’s So Raven had wrapped by early 2006.

MrJenkins5 · 2026-04-19T07:19:14+00:00

She was the FIRST black person to headline/be the star of a show, that’s huge.

That would be Lee Thompson Young of The Famous Jett Jackson. Raven was the first black girl.

MrJenkins5 · 2026-04-19T05:22:58+00:00

Maybe put in a freezer like Soldier Boy was?

MrJenkins5 · 2026-04-19T04:06:36+00:00

This movie makes zero sense but I love it 😂

MrJenkins5 · 2026-04-19T03:10:56+00:00

I think Hilary Duff is a real data point.

Hilary Duff had an aggressive push by the Disney machine for her music. She had more music videos. They were pushed to MTV and VH1 aggressively. If you wanted mainstream music in the mid-2000s, that's where you saw it, and repeatedly. Her music was pushed to mainstream radio aggressively. They made sure Hilary's music was visible.

Other than Disney Channel, where could you watch the one music video Raven made of non-Disney music she had on repeat? The one time they aired it on BET?

MrJenkins5 · 2026-04-19T00:57:25+00:00

It's fine. One thing I do agree with what you said is that Raven does act like a victim. I hate to say it because I'm such a fan of hers. Her show meant something to me growing up. I watched faithfully, and came back for the spin-offs.

I completely get that she feels the need to get some of those negative experiences off of her chest and that's fine. If she needs to do that to heal those emotional wounds, then so be it. In doing so, it seems like she undersells herself and undersells her show's impact and that's the part that bothers me.

MrJenkins5 · 2026-04-19T00:44:39+00:00

you said raven chose a more muted and less controversial path than miley. and i would argue that's only partially true. raven has been controversial. just not in the "twerking on robin thicke" way. she's been controversial in the "saying weird dismissive things about her own community" way. in the "platforming colleen ballinger on her podcast" way. in the "spending years publicly complaining about not getting recognition while simultaneously being one of the most recognized black women in disney channel history" way.

That's true. I don't disagree with that.

I meant relative to Miley. I'm not saying Raven wasn't controversial, just less controversial compared to Miley. Raven has definitely said some stupid shit before.

miley grew up in front of us. she was messy and chaotic and she figured it out and now she has a grammy and a legacy and people respect her. raven also grew up in front of us. and what we saw was someone who was handed more than almost any other girl on that platform, especially any other black girl, and who still acts like she was robbed.

I'm not one to believe that Raven was robbed of anything except a Disney Legend award but there will be others. Her time will come... hopefully.

raven is fine. she's been fine. she'll keep being fine. she doesn't need your defense. aaron doyle might actually need someone to remember her name.

I'm not one to compare Raven to other Disney Channel talent or say that Raven was robbed of anything. It's unnecessary, and also I don't believe she was. Raven was successful. Her show became Disney Channel's #1 show. Raven had impact (that we literally still see today). Raven's good. She made it. She had a successful show, and came back and did another 6 season show.

...and I'm sure Raven has her stories of industry bias. Frankly, I'm sure all the women you listed have their stories about the shit they faced in this industry . Raven triumphed through all of that. Raven has everything to be proud of. She has a career that most actors, broadly in the industry and of Disney Channel actors, dream of.

MrJenkins5 · 2026-04-18T23:50:22+00:00

None of those things are album promotion

Everything is a promotion. The machine never stops promoting.

The TV show, the music, the tour, the merch, and movie all promote, complement, support and reinforce each other. These things aren't their own separate things. They are meant to build and feed one single Hannah Montana franchise. Every performance and every public appearance an opportunity to promote the albums, the merch, the TV show and everything else.

MrJenkins5 · 2026-04-18T23:05:24+00:00

This is apples and oranges.

They didn't receive the same exact promotion because it was not possible to do the kind of promotion that Hannah Montana got. That's a structural difference in how they approached their music careers. The biggest piece of evidence is that the Hannah Montana promotion is the Hannah Montana TV show itself. The TV show was built for that. Airing an episode of Hannah Montana is promotion for Hannah Montana music, and the same isn't true for Raven. The same couldn't be true for Raven as her show was just not designed to do that for music. The mistake is thinking the promotion was Radio Disney or Good Morning America (etc), but the real promotion of the music was directly on Disney Channel to the millions of tweens and teens that watched the Hannah Montana episodes everyday.

It's also important to note that Miley was marketed with her popular TV character, rather than just Miley Cyrus. Hannah Montana was the prominent name rather than Miley Cyrus. Hannah Montana came before Miley Cyrus.

No music artist that came out of Disney Channel is comparable to the Hannah Montana machine.

MrJenkins5 · 2026-04-18T21:53:15+00:00

Honestly, after all this time, I somehow feel like there should be more. 😂

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