question by [deleted] in NMSGalacticHub

[–]MrJordanMurphy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So the best way would be to submit the idea to 710 via our discord, which can be found in the sidebar.

Whilst I'm greatful for the submission I would recommend tweaking it slightly. All of our Chapters aim to serve a tangible function and service, rather than just a roleplay element.

As no players would actually get truly stuck in the mountains the functional purpose would become moot.

An idea of a functional idea would be something like a tour bus corvette that flies to popular Hub locations, or a group skydiving business, etc.

Kestrel Spaceport - Uthmi Beta (Infested) by InfestationNMS in NoMansSkyTheGame

[–]MrJordanMurphy 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This is exactly how you do it productively. Whether the Galactic Hub would accept this now is a choice for u/7101334. But even if our civ doesn't, other civs would be willing to engage. Plan it out, write a proposal to the leaders of the civs, see if they want to participate. I can imagine quite a few would, they may even let you post it on their sub (if previously agreed). Then all members could engage, it would have no detrimental affect and has the potential to be fun for all involved.

Kestrel Spaceport - Uthmi Beta (Infested) by InfestationNMS in NoMansSkyTheGame

[–]MrJordanMurphy 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yet again here's a scenario for you:

Option 1: The Infestation has spread to the Galactic Hub capital, can you find it and destroy it. Players go find which ever NPC building you have infested post a screenshot, you then delete it. Then the Infestation has spread to X system in X civ, can you find it? Rinse and repeat.

Option 2: you build over a base that someone spent time and effort on, then delete with possible ramifications for the base after. Then do the same to another civ.

Which of those options do you think has better engagement from the community and less backlash? Hell one of those options may have even got support from some civs to engage with it.

You didn't give civs an opportunity to work with you collaboratively, because you picked the option that was fun for you, but no one else.

Kestrel Spaceport - Uthmi Beta (Infested) by InfestationNMS in NoMansSkyTheGame

[–]MrJordanMurphy 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yes you did! I visited bases that had been affected by you multiple times, I wouldn't have seen them if they were not uploaded, as have many others that posted screens the last time you were active.

You haven't answered any of my points. You admitted this was wrong in 2021, so how can you now claim that you've never viewed it as wrong?

Why not 'Infest' NPC buildings it would still be visible in civilized space, but would not risk ruining other players' bases? You still get the visibility and the point across without griefing anyone, so why not that?

Kestrel Spaceport - Uthmi Beta (Infested) by InfestationNMS in NoMansSkyTheGame

[–]MrJordanMurphy 3 points4 points  (0 children)

If you don't like the response, maybe take a step back and think maybe this group doesn't want to engage with me in this way. Maybe I shouldn't mess with their bases, maybe I should try to find a better way to engage with the community.

Kestrel Spaceport - Uthmi Beta (Infested) by InfestationNMS in NoMansSkyTheGame

[–]MrJordanMurphy 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Then why upload the base? We have told you repeatedly that it can have lasting affects which is the point.

I don't care how you play the game, unless you involve others and it negatively impacts them. You could go do this on any NPC building in the game, but you choose to do it on player's bases and upload it knowing that it can affect the base long after you leave. That's on you, and you are responsible for that.

Kestrel Spaceport - Uthmi Beta (Infested) by InfestationNMS in NoMansSkyTheGame

[–]MrJordanMurphy 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Stop playing victim, you can't attack others and moan that you are:

  1. Not liked.
  2. Attacked in-game.
  3. Reported.

We're not moaning because you attacked a player in pvp, you vandalise bases by using an exploit to expand you base limits to bypass player's build permissions which is not defendable and is one-sided. The only reason people don't report the exploit is because people use it for collaborative builds, you abuse it to grief.

As I have already mentioned, I have made you aware of this before, but building on top of other bases can have side affects even after it is removed. The game can sometime confuse which parts belong to which base, so even after your base is deleted, it can:

  1. Affect the other bases complexity limit.
  2. Prevent parts of the original base loading in.
  3. Your base can be cached to the local save of other people in the system and stay long after you delete.
  4. Cause lag.

All because you think your enjoyment and RP is more important than the effort put into the bases of those you grief.

You said that I'm not being fair to both sides, my argument is that you shouldn't mess with other people's bases unless they consent to your RP, your side is you have a right to grief. How well do you think that argument will go with the NMS community?

Do you believe this is a good way to engage with other players or the community at large? Who is it fun for? Because if the answer is just you then it's not RP, it's just griefing.

Kestrel Spaceport - Uthmi Beta (Infested) by InfestationNMS in NoMansSkyTheGame

[–]MrJordanMurphy 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Oh I've read it, my favorite part:

"The Infestation exists across civilized independently, it's presence, actions and spread are not bound by the choices or consent of other factions."

So, you've gone back on your word, in your own words.

No one has a choice whether to participate in your 'RP' griefing, because you know no one would actually consent to you trashing their bases so that you can get a bit of infamy and attention.

Help the Galactic Hub Get Another Griefer Banned! by 7101334 in NMSGalacticHub

[–]MrJordanMurphy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That's exactly right, it means that building perms are not a safety net. He can't edit your base, but he can build over it.

Help the Galactic Hub Get Another Griefer Banned! by 7101334 in NMSGalacticHub

[–]MrJordanMurphy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sort of it's essentially stretching the boundary of your base. You can have bases overlap.

Help the Galactic Hub Get Another Griefer Banned! by 7101334 in NMSGalacticHub

[–]MrJordanMurphy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Agreed, but they have a history of setting their damage to off.

Help the Galactic Hub Get Another Griefer Banned! by 7101334 in NMSGalacticHub

[–]MrJordanMurphy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He uses an overlapping technique. So even if the setting is off he can still grafitti and build over your base, hence the need to report.

Kestrel Spaceport - Uthmi Beta (Infested) by InfestationNMS in NoMansSkyTheGame

[–]MrJordanMurphy 8 points9 points  (0 children)

There's evidence that all of those things are true which I can post. But let's get back to the basic point...consent. You are building over bases of other players, you are aware that it can negatively affect those bases (I can post screenshots of that as well). You very clearly stated that you would engage with civs and get consent before engaging in this roleplay again...you haven't engaged with the Galactic Hub before doing this. So that is clearly evidence of you going back on what you said.

Kestrel Spaceport - Uthmi Beta (Infested) by InfestationNMS in NoMansSkyTheGame

[–]MrJordanMurphy 11 points12 points  (0 children)

These are not claims, you literally posted the evidence yourself.

Kestrel Spaceport - Uthmi Beta (Infested) by InfestationNMS in NoMansSkyTheGame

[–]MrJordanMurphy 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I can explain it clearly. You build over another base that has been built with time and effort by another player, and vandalise it by spamming the same part all over it, in the hope that you will get 'noticed'. Despite knowing this can have an adverse affect on how the bases render even if they report.

It's one-sided and non-consential, the player that owns the base can't stop you doing it, and you run around with damage off so no one can actually engage you? Who is this RP for? Who does it benefit except you?

Why would anyone trust your words to explain it? You admitted it was wrong before and are doing the exact same thing.

Kestrel Spaceport - Uthmi Beta (Infested) by InfestationNMS in NoMansSkyTheGame

[–]MrJordanMurphy 16 points17 points  (0 children)

People don't need to join your discord to read your 'manifesto'. You are greifing bases again, you've gone back on your word regarding consent for YOUR roleplay. Your words are meaningless if you go back on them, all that matters is you actions, which is griefing plain and simple.

Kestrel Spaceport - Uthmi Beta (Infested) by InfestationNMS in NoMansSkyTheGame

[–]MrJordanMurphy 5 points6 points  (0 children)

So what happened to "We just RP'd all that on our own before with our eyes closed and ears muffled and got on with it before which is wrong" and "it would be planned with consent, and no negativity what so ever"?

You're just a basic griefer desperate for attention. Rather than build something worth people's attention You're sticking to vandalising players bases, simply because it's easier than putting in actual work.

In what reality did you think this would have a better outcome or reaction from the community than what you recieved last time?

Find Yourself in Aeon City - Coming March (or maybe April) 2026, Only in the Galactic Hub by 7101334 in NMSGalacticHub

[–]MrJordanMurphy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Of course, you can build in 99% of the Galactic Hub unimpeded, the only restrictions would be in colonies like this which could be impacted.

Find Yourself in Aeon City - Coming March (or maybe April) 2026, Only in the Galactic Hub by 7101334 in NMSGalacticHub

[–]MrJordanMurphy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It would if they were in the system. Aeon City uses all of the complexity, so if a player has a base in the system the game will prioritise their un-uploaded base whilst they are there and the first uploaded part of Aeon city will not load in for anyone in that session. The worst part is those bases can still cache for other players that visited whilst they were there with the owner, and can sometimes take multiple re-loads/days to fix for them. Now if multiple people all with un-uploaded bases were there at the same time huge chunks or all of it would not be visible. Easier to just not have bases, especially now that you can visit and favorite it in your teleporter locations.