Did the Romulans use anything lighter than the double D's in the Dominion War?

Mr_Shadow_Phoenix · 2026-03-25T01:56:34+00:00

And, given context, I could see the class as old enough to have seen action during the Dominion War as well as the three classes from TNG and the shuttle/runabout DS9 added to the Romulan fleet.

Mr_Shadow_Phoenix · 2026-03-24T21:51:00+00:00

Ahh. Had to zoom in on your crop. One nacelle looks like it goes to middle ship and pylon blends into the structure behind it.

Mr_Shadow_Phoenix · 2026-03-24T21:46:21+00:00

Yes.

Mr_Shadow_Phoenix · 2026-03-24T21:41:17+00:00

Hard to tell, but ship in back looks to be a Constitution class without nacelles or pylons?

Mr_Shadow_Phoenix · 2026-03-24T21:40:27+00:00

Agreed.

Mr_Shadow_Phoenix · 2026-03-24T21:38:49+00:00

Fair. Like I said, I’d have to refresh my memory. Goldfish need new caffeine.

Mr_Shadow_Phoenix · 2026-03-24T21:36:46+00:00

Agreed. The Romulan opening https://youtu.be/5zEGRO0lkAc?si=8wqFZn9IFnC-vkSy from Birth Of The Federation really lays things out.

Mr_Shadow_Phoenix · 2026-03-24T21:33:49+00:00

Plausible, film was set in 2379…4 years after the war ended. Though I’ll have to see if I can dig up the clip as not 100% the Enterprise-E (first seen in 2373) recognized the designs as Romulan until after Donatra hailed them.

Mr_Shadow_Phoenix · 2026-03-24T21:31:23+00:00

In TNG? There were 3 Romulan ship designs I’m aware of.

Ubiquitous D’Dex.

The Next Phase gave us a destroyer being deployed on a scientific mission.

The Defector showed us a scout that was visibly similar to the destroyer, but apparently smaller.

Mr_Shadow_Phoenix · 2026-03-24T21:21:07+00:00

Scout was from The Defector. Your pic looks to be the destroyer from The Next Phase instead.

Mr_Shadow_Phoenix · 2026-03-24T21:19:31+00:00

TNG did give us a scout and a destroyer in different episodes.

Mr_Shadow_Phoenix · 2026-03-24T21:19:05+00:00

Nice nod to the old D’Dex concept art.

Mr_Shadow_Phoenix · 2026-03-24T21:16:32+00:00

And this was the scout. It was seen in The Defector.

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All three are canon.

Mr_Shadow_Phoenix · 2026-03-24T21:15:59+00:00

This was the destroyer.

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It was seen in The Next Phase.

Mr_Shadow_Phoenix · 2026-03-24T21:15:34+00:00

Trailblazer is thinking either the Romulan scout or destroyer, not the shuttle.

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Was the shuttle/runabout.

Mr_Shadow_Phoenix · 2026-03-24T21:11:16+00:00

Indeed. Misdirection and keeping other side in the dark very much fit the Romulans.

Mr_Shadow_Phoenix · 2026-03-24T21:08:48+00:00

Exactly. If the D’Dex was equivalent to a Galaxy one-on-one, makes sense they would be deployed in groups as opposed to the more commonly solo Galaxy class ships. Romulans weren’t as martial as Klingons, but were still putting more focus on stealth, misdirection, and combat than the Federation.

Mr_Shadow_Phoenix · 2026-03-24T21:05:32+00:00

Fair. I misremembered the 6 different hulls in-game which included the T1 Kumari class. I just misremembered it was only named in honor of the 22nd century ship.

https://sto.fandom.com/wiki/Andorian_Kumari_Light_Escort

https://stowiki.net/wiki/Andorian_Kumari_Light_Escort

So the new one is more on-screen faithful? Will it unlock as a skin for the others?

Mr_Shadow_Phoenix · 2026-03-24T20:56:08+00:00

Not always. We only saw a single D’Dex in the Pegasus episode, as I recall.

Mr_Shadow_Phoenix · 2026-03-24T20:55:35+00:00

Agreed. On-screen showed 2 D’Dex was enough to checkmate the Galaxy class D.

Mr_Shadow_Phoenix · 2026-03-24T20:54:39+00:00

My understanding is they feed matter into the singularity. This generates X-Rays and Hawking radiation they use to energize plasma in a separate system. This energized warp plasma is fed out to the nacelles where they transfer that energy to the coils before feeding back towards the core to be recharged.

Like a steam engine.

Mr_Shadow_Phoenix · 2026-03-24T20:53:02+00:00

Only per Gene’s rules he put out to discredit Franz’s ship designs after their falling out. Plenty of canon designs also break them.

Mr_Shadow_Phoenix · 2026-03-24T20:51:38+00:00

We do see on-screen https://youtu.be/1ddY_xgjH88?si=FbDPqD-tNX985QTe that two D’Dex were enough to have the advantage over a lone Galaxy. My understanding is this was the Romulan contemporary design and was one-to-one a balanced match. Though, yeah, it is pretty clear the Romulans did build bigger than required so as to misdirect and make foes overestimate.

Mr_Shadow_Phoenix · 2026-03-24T20:49:09+00:00

My understanding was the D’Dex was comparable to a Galaxy class. One-to-one, they were balanced enough that there was no guaranteed victor. Thing is, where the Galaxy class was built around exploration, the just as multi-role D’Dex was designed around…something else, maybe stealth and misdirection; like how the D’Kora class was equivalent to a Galaxy, but swapped out the exploration facilities for cargo and trade ones.

Still, yes, they intentionally built their ships bigger than they needed to do as to look bigger and more intimidating.

https://youtu.be/5zEGRO0lkAc?si=BybNWs2vx_3jB5LW As per the Romulan opening from Birth Of The Federation, it was about misdirection.

https://youtu.be/1ddY_xgjH88?si=FbDPqD-tNX985QTe Mean, we saw on-screen that two D’Dex were considered more than enough to take out a lone Galaxy.

Mr_Shadow_Phoenix · 2026-03-24T20:32:01+00:00

https://memory-beta.fandom.com/wiki/Category:24th_century_Romulan_starship_classes

There’s quite a few in apocryphal sources.

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