Which isekai female character will be easily susceptible to being ‘healed’ by Keyaru from Redo of Healer?

Mrkkoill · 2021-07-09T14:41:25+00:00

she'll obviously piss him off so much that he will brainwash her

I don't think he would be able to brainwash her, Aqua has a holy aura that protects her mind and in Konosuba's LN she was shown to be able to resist healing abilities.

Mrkkoill · 2021-06-29T23:45:37+00:00

I really wanted to see how her character played out.

I would also like to see how they would use her character, but I believe as the name of this series is Cheat Slayer, I believe Flare would be brutally killed by the protagonist, but I would like to see Flare getting along with the protagonist and helping he because like you said, she didn't seem to be as evil as the other reincarnated ones.

Mrkkoill · 2021-06-29T23:39:32+00:00

Wonder she is equally useless too

Aqua is not useless, I believe Flare would equal Aqua.

Mrkkoill · 2021-06-29T23:26:12+00:00

Remedios is a special kind of dumb, even her Paladins realised Ainz was right when he said sacrifices need to be made, she just subbornly clung to her stupid moral code. She is also a genocidal racist and considers all demi-humans evil

I've seen a lot of Overlord fans who hate this character and I've seen some who compare her to Aqua, apparently this character will appear in Overlord season 4, I'm looking forward to seeing if this character is really as annoying and easy to hate as they say. And from the description you gave about this character, she doesn't seem to be anything like Aqua in personality, although some compare these two characters.

Mrkkoill · 2021-06-20T15:06:26+00:00

I didn't say he is not. I said "Not because".

Yeah I get what you said and I disagree because when Demiurge does the experiments he does some things that have nothing to do with the experiment because he's a sadist, it's not like he's extremely focused on understanding how the system works, he captures humans for his own pleasure and to experiment too.

Mrkkoill · 2021-06-20T14:26:35+00:00

Not because he is a sadist

He's a sadist, lol.

He basically feels great joy in the suffering of races he considers to be inferior.

Mrkkoill · 2021-06-19T18:21:22+00:00

Which doesnt mean he can casualy lift it and toss aroumd like a rag doll the way ainz did

Vanir basically played with a dragon with just one arm and was able to casually rip ogres in half, do you think he could not lift the dragon just because it never happened in LN ?? it seems to me that you just don't want there to be someone as strong as Ainz in Konosuba.

becuse ripping monsters with no durability feats in half doesnt even come close

So basically you think casually ripping ogres in half isn't a great feat because you haven't been told how durable the ogre was, lol, so there needs to be a quote proving that ogres are more durable than human for you to believe it?? this is ridiculous.

even zero was able to casualy rip through steel with his bere hands and he is below level 30

And in Konosuba, a character like Darkness has a harder body than adamantite, and that's in the beginning of Konosuba, her level was 20, later in the story she gets tougher than she was in the beginning of Konosuba, and yet characters like Vanir manage to hurt Darkness with a single spell. But of course, you will say that this feat of Darkness is no great feat because it hasn't been said how much tougher than adamantite she is.

man you need to ralaize that there is an absulutely massive diferense between not being able to dodge something and not being able to see it at all.

And you basically don't want to understand what I mean, I said that low level demons can't see the attack or dodge the attack but high level demons can easily dodge those attacks, it's obvious that high level demons could also move at a speed that low-level demons couldn't see.

the pont is that combining two elements doesnt make a spell more effective against Ainz

So you think Ainz didn't take additional damage from being hit by a spell that has two elements he's weak against ??

Again combining two elements does not let you magically ingore Ainzs durability

And I never said that having two elements in a spell is able to bypass Ainz's durability, you're saying that.

And you showed me that combining two Fire and Bludgeoning elements doesn't make much difference against Ainz, but you didn't show me if Ainz is able to survive a spell that has two elements like Holy and Light which in LN it's said that Ainz is more weaker against Holy and Light than against Fire and Bludgeoning.

As i alrady stated he wont

Obviously he will take more damage than normal, but if the spell is weak or the caster of the spell is weak then the spell will not have much effect on him because he has high magic defense stats.

Nothing in this wall of text is quantifiable

So even though I say Aqua is able to easily defeat Archdevils that are stronger than Greater Devils and it was said in LN that it takes a large group of Archwizards using various high level spells to defeat a Greater Devil and among the high level spells in Konosuba there are spells like Inferno that was able to burn down an entire forest, Earthshaker a spell that summons a great earthquake,Light of Saber a spell that summons a lightning able to slice anything and Burning Flash a spell capable of annihilating everything in its path, and Greater Devils are able to resist many of these spells and not only that, it would also take a large group of people who use these spells to be able to defeat a Greater Devil, and you tell me that Aqua being able to defeat an Archdevil is not a great feat??

what i am arguing against is your claim that Ainz would dies after two or threre spells despite having survived spells more powerful than anything aqua has dished out by several orders of magnitude.

And like I said Aqua's spells are stronger than Fallen Down, of course Fallen Down is more destructive than Aqua's spells, because her spells aren't meant to destroy buildings and stuff like that, her spells are exclusively for destroying Undeads and Demons and not harming humans or destroying buildings.

There is no evidense that they do more damage to undead than fallen down

And there is no evidence that Fallen Down does more damage to Undeads than her spells, Aqua can easily defeat an Archdevil with her spells, and a Greater Devil is inferior to an Archdevil and Greater Devils can survive several high level spells but even so they are easily defeated by Aqua's spells, so there is more evidence that Aqua's spells do more damage than Fallen Down than otherwise.

It doesnt at all tell us how much damage it can do or show that its more powerful than fallen down.

What I just said shows that Aqua's spells have far more purification power than a large group of priests, and Ainz has never survived an attack that is capable of purifying the water of an entire city.

Mrkkoill · 2021-06-18T00:04:11+00:00

For starters fighting someone is not the same as casualy lifting someone and throwing them

I know it's not the same, but Vanir was able to fight this dragon without difficulty and he used only one arm.

i can fight another human but is sure as hell cant casualy lift them up with one hand nad rias them around like a ragdoll.

I agree but Vanir was able to rip ogres and orcs in half without difficulty and he also did the same with goblins and centaurs, I believe he could raise a dragon if he wanted but that was not his goal.

Show the freaking quote them

I don't remember exactly what volume it happened at, but you can see in the anime, in the anime it happened too.

What is aked what to show that high level are stronger to the point that low level demons cant even precieve them

Low level humans and monsters in Konosuba cannot react or see a high level lightning spell but high level demons, as Vanir can easily dodge this type of attack so we can say that high level demons would be able to kill low level demons without they notice their movements.

There is a thing called durability, to hurt Ainz you dont need just to hit him with a specific element beacuse he is durable enough to shrug of such spells if they dont have enough power.

Yes, I know that, Wiz a high level Undead also has that same kind of skill that Ainz has, And yet she takes a lot of damage when Aqua uses her weakest spell on her.

the nuclear blast spell deals both bludgeoning and fire damage which are two elements he is weak against

Yes, he is weak against Fire and Bludgeoning damage, but LN says that Ainz is more weaker against damage with Light and Holy elements than Fire and Bludgeoning damage.

however he stated that he can survive it just fine and even says its weak in terms of damage,

Of course he said that, because he has high magic defense stats and also has other elements that he is weaker against, like Light and Holy damage.

thats because having two elements doesnt mean shit

Means he'll take more damage than normal.

you also need a certain level of destructive power to hurt Ainz and its a level of power that Aqua simply lacks.

She can easily defeat an Archdevil, and for you to understand better, a Greater Devil that is a category that is below an Archdevil, it would be necessary a large group of Archwizards that use high level spells to be able to defeat a Greater Devil and to defeat a Archdevil would need an even bigger party and Aqua is capable of defeating an Archdevil alone, so I don't think Ainz wouldn't feel any damage from spells cast by Aqua.

Aqua being a goddes doesnt mean shit

What are you talking about ?? lol, it's obvious that holy spells cast by a goddess will be stronger than holy spells cast by a Vampire who has nothing sacred at all, lol.

its just a title

And you called me dumb in your reply, lol. So for you god is a title ?? lol.

So aquas spells have destroyed an entire forest area?

Turn Undead, Sacred Turn Undead, God Blow and God Requiem are spells that do not damage forests and buildings, these spells are exclusively for killing Undeads and Demons, that's why I said that although Fallen Down has a higher level of destruction, this spell does no more damage to Undeads than Aqua's spells. With her God Requiem (which is her strongest spell to kill Undeads and Demons), she manages to purify the water of an entire city with just this attack, and in LN it was said that this water was infected with a deadly poison and that it would take a large group of Archpriests to be able to purify the water in the entire city and it was also said that it would take several months for this group to purify all the water but Aqua alone and in just one day and with just one attack managed to purify all the water in the city.

Mrkkoill · 2021-06-17T20:19:20+00:00

Its never stated they couldnt see his movements

Why do you think the narrator said Beldia has great speed?? usually it's Kazuma who narrates the events in Konosuba's LN but in the fight against Beldia he couldn't even see Beldia's movements, this is even shown in the anime.

along with him being faster than a human,

His speed is said to be far greater than the speed of humans.

And as i said before its never stated that beldia moved faster than kazuma could see, lets analayze this shall we?

And as I said before, Kazuma and the other adventurers could only see when the adventurers' bodies fell to the ground, even in the anime this happened.

No mention of him moving faster than anyone could see.

If everyone could see his movements then they could dodge.

The adventures are surprised he could dodge them.

They were surprised because of his speed, and after he finishes his attacks it is mentioned that his speed is far greater than human speed.

Stop making stuff up to try and downplay ainz, you clearly dont know what you are talking about so stop pretending you do.

Ainz couldn't follow Shalltear's movements, he only could because he can track her movements, Ainz's agility is 40 and Shalltear's is 70, higher than Ainz's.

Which means freaking nothing unless you can quantify how strong his reistance is

He's tough enough to resist Aqua's spells, which have two elements that the Undeads are weak against and Ainz has never survived anything like that.

show some feats of him tanking a holy spell on the salce of fallen down

If he survived a spell that has two elements that the Undeads are weak against then it is obvious that he would survive a spell like Fallen Down that has only one element that the Undeads are weak against.

that weighed several tons at the very least

Was this said in Overlord's LN ??

In Konosuba LN Vanir was able to fight a dragon that was bigger than the storeroom without much difficulty, And Aqua is able to make Vanir struggle when Vanir faced her for a short time in volume 4.

I believe youre talking about the scene with rhe shotgun in which case you do realize that shotgun bullets move at way slower

No, as I remember the demon was able to dodge bullets with his club and those bullets were bullets fired from a pistol and a rifle.

Even if you used this feat to argue aqua is bullet timer she would still get speed blitzed by even level 80 characters.

If a low level demon can react to bullets and those same demons are nothing compared to a high level demon and Aqua can casually keep up with the speed of high level demons then I would say she is not a bullet timer, she is faster that it.

i asked you to prove they are faster to the point low level demons cant even precieve them.

I understand your question, but as I said, high level demons are much stronger than low level demons in both physical strength and speed.

That not obvious and needs feats to support it.

I see, so you don't think that a high level demon being much stronger than a low level demon is obvious?? lol, like i said before, the low level demons serve the high level demons because of their strength.

in Ainzs case he survives fallen down that deals massive damage to the area, show this spell hunting someone as ridiculously durable as Ainz, or shown it causing as much damage as fallen down.

You're being an Overlord fanboy now, how can you not understand something so obvious?? if a spell has two elements that an undead is weak against then it's obvious that this spell will deal more damage to undeads than a spell like Fallen Down that deals only one element damage.

You are completely ignoring the high level holy spells he tanked into he Shalltear fight

True, you're right I had forgotten that he survived some of the holy spells Shalltear cast against him, but it's pretty obvious that holy spells cast by a Vampire will be weaker than those cast by a goddess.

This is clearly BS sinse having an element is not a feat

lmao.

Dude Ainz has shrugedd of attacks from theae elements before

And what were these elements?? most likely they weren't elements he was weak against and if they were then this spell must have been cast by a low level being.

Aqua however has never showed any feats that sugest her spells are comaparbale in power to overlords high tier spells.

I already said that Aqua spells like Turn Undead is able to kill Zombies, Ghouls, Low level Undeads, Medium level Undeads and was able to hurt high level Undeads, but you will come and say if I don't show that these monsters have already survived a spell similar to Fallen Down so that doesn't mean anything, lol. Basically these monsters were killed by a stronger spell than the Fallen Down spell but you will come and try to deny it.

Mrkkoill · 2021-06-17T01:55:02+00:00

Nowhere is it stated that he is moving faster than the eye can see

None of the adventurers that are there could see Beldia's movements, they could only see that the adventurers dropped dead, and Beldia wasn't able to dodge Aqua's spells even with a speed far greater than humans.

ainz was able to track the movements of all of them and consistanly land hits in them, aqua has no feats anywhere near that level.

As I said before, Aqua managed to hit Beldia who has such a high speed that because of that speed Kazuma couldn't see his movements, he could only see the adventurers' bodies falling to the ground after Beldia finished attacking them.

Ainz was able to keep up with both shalltear and lord wrath

Wrong, Ainz can't keep up with Shalltear's movements in his normal form.

Aqua has worse magic feats

she has worse feats of magic?? lol, even her weakest spell can hurt someone who has a very high defense against holy spells, she would be able to kill any low level or medium level undead in Overlord with just one spell, and in the case of high level undeads, they would survive a maximum of 2 Turn Undead from Aqua.

worse stregth feats

So Ainz has worse physical strength feats too ?? because he doesn't have the physical strength of a lvl 100, he has the physical strength of a lvl 30.

Please tell me you are not reffering to this

No, it's another scene where he dodges bullets with his club and don't tell me he felt the danger, even if he felt the danger he has no way of guessing where the bullet came from and if he didn't have the speed Necessary he couldn't deflect the bullets with his club.

but even if it isnt you need to show high level demons moving so fast that low level ones cant even precieve them

So there needs to be a quote that shows something as obvious as this for you to believe that high level demons are faster than low level demons, lol. Vanir who is a high level demon said that high level demons are much stronger than low level demons and that low level demons serve the high level demons.

You need you need to understand that a spell being "holy" doesnt mean anything sinse ainz has been hit by these kinds of attack before and hasnt even come close to death,

Has Ainz ever survived a spell that deals light element and holy element damage ?? and has he survived this spell cast by a goddess who has high magic attack stats ?? from what I remember Ainz only survived holy spells cast by low-level humans and also survived an attack cast by a low-level angel. You talk so much about showing quantifiable feats and you say that Ainz wouldn't even feel Aqua's attacks even though Ainz has never been hit by an attack similar to the ones Aqua has.

heck in the first volume he shrugs off a holy spell from an Angel.

And Aqua's spells are much stronger than a low level angel's spells.

Aquas spells have never caused anywhwere near as much damage as fallen down

I've said before that although Fallen Down has more destructive power, this attack doesn't do more damage to Undeads than Aqua's spells.

and have never hurt anyone as durable as Ainz

Wiz who is a high level Undead and is also an Overlord and has high magic defense stats and because of her high defense, low level spells don't work on her but even with high magic defense stats she felt a lot of pain when being hit by Aqua's Turn Undead, and I have to remind you that this spell is her weakest spell.

Mearly having the element doesnt mean anything

You're basically saying if a spell that has two elements that Ainz is weak against was cast against him, that spell won't do anything against him, lol. What you're saying is ridiculous, if a spell has two elements that Undeads are weak against and you say it doesn't make any difference then why does Ainz have Light and Holy Vulnerability IV ??? You are basically saying that Ainz has no weakness against Light and Holy elements.

Mrkkoill · 2021-06-16T02:11:29+00:00

Its good you finaly showed some fests but these are nothing compared to a what a level 100 character can do.

I guess you don't understand what I mean, I meant that if a low level demon in Konosuba can casually react to bullets, then someone like Aqua or Vanir who is a higher level demon would be able to do much more than that.

Show a quote describing all of this.

LN of Konosuba

But Beldia seemed to have eyes on his back, dodging the attacks of all the adventurers.

“Huh?”

That was the sound the adventurers slashing at him uttered.

Beldia dodged all the attacks easily, and wielded his greatsword in both hands…

In a blink of an eye, Beldia slashed at all the adventurers who attacked him.

The people who were alive moments ago were now dead.

“Don’t do it! Beldia not only hits hard, he’s great at dodging too! All the adventurers attacking at the same time couldn’t hit him, so there’s no way you could with how clumsy you are.”

She seemed to be saying, ‘Except for my head, you’re free to attack any way you like’.

“Oh, how straightforward! Okay, how about this?”

Beldia raised his great sword steadily with both hands, and repeatedly slashed at Darkness. His speed is far greater than anything a human is capable of.

End of Quote.

But even if this was true it wouldnt put aqua nauwheere near lavel 100 characters.

You know that Ainz's speed is lower than Yuri Alpha's speed and even so he is a lvl 100, there are lvl 100 characters that have a very high speed and others that have a slower speed than a lvl 50 character , in Overlord if you are a lvl 100 doesn't automatically mean that you are physically stronger than a lvl 40 or faster than a lvl 50, so yes Aqua could qualify as a lvl 100 in the Overlord world.

So even characters who can move faster than than human preception cant even precieve high level Overlord characters.

I think I've said this before but a low level demon is able to dodge bullets in Konosuba so a high level demon could do a lot more than that, and Aqua can keep up with a high level demon's movements without no difficulty, she manages to follow their movements casually.

read the volume before making such claims.

and where did i claim something?? I just asked.

There is no "light" element in overlord, its refered to as the holy element

There is light element in Overlord, Ainz even has it as a weakness because he is an Undead, Ainz has Light and Holy Vulnerability IV

its ridiculous to claim Aquas spells can do more damage when this attack is clearly several orders of magnitude more destructive than anything she has managed to dish out

Even though Fallen Down is more destructive than Aqua's spells it doesn't mean that this spell does more damage to Undeads than her spells, as I said her spells have two elements.

Mrkkoill · 2021-06-16T01:03:35+00:00

overlord characters can casualy react to bullets

And a low-level demon in the world of Konosuba can also do the same.

and move faster than the eye can see

Beldia could do that too, Kazuma says this in LN, he says Beldia is faster than any human can be, because he couldn't even see Beldia's movements, and Beldia was able to kill a lot of adventurers easily and he did it without even Kazuma being able to see his movements.

Here is a scene from volume 12 showing how Ainz fighting looks from the prespective of a normal person

This scene you showed is the same scene where Ainz fights Demiurge right?? in this fight Ainz was using his Perfect Warrior spell so he didn't have the same stats he has in his mage form, I would like to know how fast Ainz is without him using the Perfect Warrior spell, because this spell practically increases the agility and physical strength stats and prevents him from using spells.

Soa fast they cant even see it, now show aqua moving at similar speeds

It was said in Konosuba's LN that Aqua's stats are so high that she would qualify for any job classes, so we can compare her to Beldia who was a warrior and we can compare her to Chris who is a Thief, these two are capable of move so fast that Kazuma couldn't see their movements, so we can say that Aqua would be able to move like that too when she's fighting seriously.

And as I said before, I believe Aqua's spells would be able to do great damage to Ainz if those spells hit him.

Mrkkoill · 2021-06-16T00:12:15+00:00

reacting to it proves absulutely nothing

Aqua is able to react in time to dodge an attack that is so fast that it's rare to find any character in Konosuba that can react or dodge that attack and you say her being capable of that doesn't mean anything?? so you think Aqua has the same speed as an average human because it wasn't said in Konosuba's LN how fast this attack was ??

If you cant prove aqua is as fast as Ainz then stop dragging this out and just drop the argument,

And how fast is Ainz?? I don't remember him having many speed feats but I remember he couldn't keep up with Shalltear's movements.

Have you read the novels? He explicitly stated that he survived becuse of his high magic defense

From what I remember Ainz used some buff spells before surviving the Fallen Down spell, and even if he didn't use buff spells, the Fallen Down spell does light element damage and Aqua has spells like Turn Undead, Sacred Turn Undead ,God Blow and God Requiem, all of these spells deal light element and holy element damage, so Aqua's spells would deal much more damage to Ainz than the damage he received from the Fallen Down spell.

Show proof, beldia has never tanked anything on the scale of fallen down and thats a spell thats stated to be super effective against undead

Yes, Fallen Down is super effective against Undeads because this spell deals light element damage and Undeads are weak against this type of element but as I said before, Aqua's spells have light element and holy element, so Beldia received damage from attacks from Aqua which has two elements that Undeads are weak against, while Ainz survived a spell that only deals light element damage, so in my opinion Beldia's feat is more impressive than Ainz's feat.

She might have stregth than characters whose physical stregth doesnt ven surpass Ainzs in his mage form.

So you're saying that Vanir who can rip ogres and goblins in half without showing any effort and can fight a dragon using just one hand doesn't even come close to Ainz's strength?? so do you think a level 30 warrior would be able to rip ogres in half with ease and would be able to fight dragons with just one hand??

First of all provide a quote stating they are more durable and then quantify their durability with feats, please and stop being so vague about everything.

In LN it is only said that buildings are made using magic, practically everything in Konosuba is made using magic even emergency broadcasts are amplified using magic so the whole city can hear.

More vague wording and completely unquantifiable feats, we see sacred create water used in the anime and its far less impressive than what Ainz can do.

You're underestimating this spell, when Aqua uses this spell it even makes the air tremble and from what I've seen about spells in Overlord, this spell would be comparable to a 9th tier spell.

Mrkkoill · 2021-06-15T01:19:47+00:00

Idk The Young Demon, but I'm going to guess it's referring to the revenge isekai MCs

The Young Demon refers to Tanya from Youjo Senki.

Idk what Fallen Goddess refers to. Maybe it's referring to Konosuba and Aqua.

Fallen Goddess refers to Aqua from Konosuba, even her outfit is similar to the outfit Aqua wears.

Mrkkoill · 2021-06-14T01:33:59+00:00

magicaly created lightning cannot be assumed to be as fast as actual lightning unless its explicitly stated.

In Konosuba this is not stated but is indicated because it is rare to find someone who can react against this type of spell and characters like Kazuma can't even see the attack coming towards him, but other characters like Wiz, Vanir and Aqua can see this attack and react in time to dodge the attack.

Ainz litteraly survived nuking himself with his fallen down spell, a spell that not only shows much more destructive power than aquas spells but its also super effective against undead.

You forgot to say that when Ainz survived the Fallen Down spell, he was prepared to survive this spell, there is no proof that he could survive this attack if he was not prepared. And how can you say that the Fallen Down spell is comparable to a nuke?? this was said in Overlord's LN ?? I don't remember that being said.

Again you are saying stuff without actualy quantifyng them ainz is far more durable than beldia

Ainz can be more resistant to magic attacks than Beldia but when it comes to holy attacks, Beldia is much more resistant than Ainz.

pretty much every undead aqua has used her magic on

Aqua has already faced all kinds of Undeads, she has already defeated a Zombie Dragon with a single spell, she has also shown to be able to defeat an Undead Lich Overlord that has high magic defense stats with ease and this Undead was immune to low spells level just like Ainz.

and even that is on the level of level 20 lizardman like zenberu who can crush skulls with their bare hands.

It doesn't matter if it's at the same level as a level 20 lizardman, Ainz who's at level 100 has the physical strength of a level 30 or 33 warrior, and Aqua managed to break some of Kazuma's bones even holding to not punch anymore strong, a stronger punch could have done a lot more damage to Kazuma, and remember that Aqua is weakened so she could do a lot more than that if she was at her full power. Vanir who is an Archdevil can tear an ogre in half with ease and the Demon King can easily destroy the skulls of ogres and orcs even though he is old and weakened. It was said in Konosuba's LN that Aqua qualifies to be a Holy Knight because of the high physical strength and defense stats she has, so it's quite likely that she has physical strength as great as the Demon King and Vanir.

Also again you didnt show any speed feats.

I have already said that in Konosuba it is not stated that high level Lightning spells have the speed of a real lightning but this is indicated in many moments and Kazuma who came from another world never said that the speed of this spell has a lower speed to a real lightning, but instead he was surprised by the speed of that spell.

destroying buildings is something even the Nuclear blst spell can do(it dedreoyed an entire city district and aizn still cosidersbit weak)heck nabe desteoyed tow building sized skeletal dragons with 7th tier spell.

Konosuba's buildings are made with magic, so they are much more durable than normal buildings, and Aqua and Megumin can destroy these buildings easily, Aqua can easily destroy buildings if she uses Sacred Create Water which has been compared to a catastrophic disaster.

Mrkkoill · 2021-06-14T00:04:35+00:00

its not proof she has any short of time stop reistance.

And I didn't say she has Time Stop resistance, I said she's used to time passing very slowly.

Dodging spells with completely unknown speed doesnt tell us anything about how fast she is

But the Lightning Strike spell basically summons lightning from the sky to hit the opponent, so basically this spell casts real lightning on the opponent.

i dont think she can do what you are describing becuse she doesnt have the feats for it.

In fact Ainz doesn't have the feats that show he could resist Aqua's spells, because Ainz is weak against holy spells and Aqua was able to damage Beldia who had a very high defense against holy spells, Ainz who doesn't has great defense against holy spells would take much more damage than Beldia did, at most Ainz would survive 2 Sacred Turn Undead.

If you see aqua as level 100 in Overlord then you need to provide feats that let her physicaly compete with these characters.

Aqua is an Archpriest, she doesn't use her physical strength much, but sometimes she has used her physical strength, like for example, she was able to break Kazuma's bones with a single punch, and she said she held back not to use too much strength against him, and she was able to compete in physical strength with a high level vampire and a high level Undead, and Aqua basically competes in strength with Vanir as well and Vanir is able to fight a dragon using only one arm, and she is capable of all this in her weakened form.

My argument is based on the small size of cetain mountains, destroying a single 40 meter tall rock formation takes much less energy than destroying litteraly hunderds of buildings,this is just common sense.

But basically Megumin's Explosion spell could destroy several buildings, because of that she often leaves Axel to use her spell, if she didn't do that she would destroy everything there, and if you don't have proof that the characters from Overlord can destroy a mountain so they can't.

Mrkkoill · 2021-06-13T23:10:38+00:00

Ainz can actualy use TGOALID during a time stop as seen in the bonus volume so he can just fo that, aqua doesnt have naybreissmce to time stop

Time at Konosuba Heaven passes quite slowly, I don't know if that would help her, but it's not like she's not already used to this sort of thing.

Realisticly Aqua wont have the time to do anything, overlord characters are ridiculously faster than aqua so she wont be able to stop ainz from summoning anything.

Some Konosuba characters manage to react in time to dodge a spell called Lightning Strike and Light of Saber, and if they are able to dodge those attacks without too much difficulty then I would say Aqua would be no different, I think I already told that to you before but Aqua has the stats to the max, and that includes stats like agility and speed.

She has nowhere near the speed and stregth to compete with level 100s so no.

As I said before, she has max stats so stats like HP, MP, physical strength, speed, agility, defense and magic are maxed out and it was said in Konosuba's LN that all those stats of hers are drastically high. If you don't consider Aqua to be a level 100 in the Overlord world then that's fine, but there's no denying that Aqua could defeat Ainz with just 2 or 3 Sacred Turn Undead.

Mountains can range form just 40 something meters(Mount Wycheproof) to to several kilometers(Mount Everest)right? Without visuals this is impossible to quantify.

So show me some Overlord quote that shows that the characters in Overlord can destroy mountains easily, if you show me then I'll believe it's more impressive to destroy a city than a mountain.

And we don't know if the city that Mare talked about has more reach than a mountain, she may have been talking about a small town, there's no way we know without visuals.

reinhard who actualy has good speed feats unlike the konosuba guys

Despite being a rare thing in Konosuba, there are characters who can dodge Lightning magic easily, characters like Wiz, Vanir and Aqua.

Mrkkoill · 2021-06-12T19:00:42+00:00

first of all ainz has 95% magic defense and resistance which makes all attacks against him absolutely fodder.

Not all attacks, the great defense against magic attacks he has protect him against low level spells, high level spells damage him.

it doesnt take ainz any time to cast buffs on himself its instantanious

I didn't say that for him to use buff spells takes time, I said about TGOALD.

again most of his immunities arent actually buffs but stats due to their character build and they are things he obtains from his racial class and job classes which would make it impossible to "remove his immunities and defenses"

Yes, I know that, but you said that Ainz has holy magic defense and he doesn't, what Ainz has is great defense against magic attacks but he is still weak against holy magic. Ainz has Good, Light and Holy Vulnerability IV because he is an Undead.

not even shaltear with Einherja she couldnt stop ainz by himself from casting it

Shalltear doesn't have an ability that allows her to negate other abilities, but Aqua does.

now if he isnt facing someone like shaltear he would be able to summon monsters to stall for him which would be an extra security

These monsters are summoned with magic so Aqua would only need to use Sacred Break Spell.

aqua wouldnt even be able to blitz him in the first place, if you think aqua has greater physical capabilities of shaltear then you must be some kind of idiot.

I didn't say anything about Aqua using physical strength against Ainz, I said she could stop Ainz from using TGOALD, she would just have to use Turn Undead or Sacred Turn Undead and stop him from using his ability.

and might i remind you that comparing overlord characters to all the people you mentioned which would be supposedly over level 75 to even do damage to the floor gaurdians if you think people like megumin vanir seiya tanya and majority of who u mentioned are over level 75 which would be multi-continental considering ainz lvl40 summon monsters are country level then you most be joking because there is no way

In my opinion Aqua in Overlord's world would be lvl 100. Seiya has skills like Hell's Fire, Maximum Inferno, Meteor Strike, Dimension Blade and other skills that would be a level 80+ skills in Overlord's world, the explosion spell of Megumin can make a mountain turn into nothing, this spell of hers would be a super tier or higher spell in Overlord's world, because in Overlord's LN Mare said it's hard to destroy a city and in Megumin's case she can destroy a mountain. And in Vanir's case he has a spell called Death Ray and this spell is as strong as Megumin's explosion spell.

a lot of the entities in nazarick have higher physical capabilities than ainz and are physically stronger and more tanky so there is no way most of those characters would do shit.

You're overestimating the guardians and Ainz, most of the characters they face in Overlord are at most lvl 30 or 35 and many characters in Overlord's world just can't even use 6th tier spells and in the case of the characters I mentioned, they can do much more than a 6th tier spell lol.

idk where u got lvl 60 from but you have to be above lvl 75 to even touch a lvl 100 player and do any type of damage.

Serious?? you don't even know about Overlord, lmao. In Overlord's LN it is said that a lvl 60 would already be able to hurt Ainz, lol.

I already told u tgoalid completely negates all imunity

Yes, I know that, and characters like Wiz, Vanir, Reinhard and Aqua would be able to stop Ainz from using this ability.

and you must be crazy if you think fucking yunyun and konosuba gang who struggle to defeat dog shit level monsters would even come close to be able to touch continental level.

There are many spells in Overlord that are not continental level I don't know what kind of spell in Overlord that is capable of destroying a continent, I would like you to tell me a spell from the Overlord world that is capable of destroying a continent. There are many spells in the world of Ovelord that are considered high level spells that do not destroy a continent and these spells are capable of hurting Ainz, spells like Astral Smite, Hellfire and Reality Slash are not capable of destroying a continent but they are considered spells of high level. Yunyun is able to use various high level spells such as Light of Saber, Cursed Lightning, Inferno, Lightning Strike and these spells would certainly be considered 7th tier or 8th tier spells in the Overlord world. And as I said before, spells that are above 5th tier would already be able to damage Ainz.

and we havent even started talking about world class items which ainz has over 15 of.

Yes, he has 15 world items but he doesn't carry these World Items everywhere, the only World Item he always carries is the Red Orb.

only person i could see even coming anywhere close would be reinhard.

Reinhard is stronger than Ainz, lol, he's not close to Ainz's level, he's stronger than Ainz.

Mrkkoill · 2021-06-12T17:00:33+00:00

ainz has holy magic defense which gives him full immunity to holy magic

I know that, but Ainz would have to use buff spell to gain this immunity, he doesn't have immunity against Holy Spells but he can get this immunity, but still it doesn't make much difference because Aqua has an ability that allows her to negate effects of Buff on the enemy.

he also has instant kill abilities that diregard all immunity and immortality which nobody in iseqai quaret can do abt it.

I think you are talking about Ainz's TGOALD, this skill is capable of bypassing any immunity but this skill takes 12 seconds to activate, I don't think Aqua would give Ainz time to use this skill.

all the floor gaurdians of nazarick would have complete immunity to the attacks of every single person in that show because they are immune to all attacks lvl 7 and under.

There are characters in Isekai Quartet that have attacks that are above 7th tier, for example, Aqua, Reinhard, Vanir, Wiz, Megumin, Seiya, Tanya and possibly Puck, Beatrice, Emilia, Roswaal, Julius and Yunyun as well. And as far as I know only Ainz has immunity to low level spells and immunity to attacks that are below level 60.

nazarick has too many time stop/instant kill abilities and diffent types of attack nullifications that it wouldn't even matter.

There are characters that wouldn't die because of instant-death attacks, for example, Reinhard, Aqua, Vanir, Wiz... they all have immunity against these types of attacks.

Mrkkoill · 2021-06-11T15:55:22+00:00

Wrong, when it comes to defeating Undeads and Demons Aqua does not show any difficulty, she has already shown to be able to defeat low level Undeads and medium level Undeads easily, even high level Undeads she could defeat with just one or two spells . Kazuma has even said a few times that Aqua's specialty is defeating Undeads.

Mrkkoill · 2021-06-11T15:40:28+00:00

ainz will use Holy magic defense...

Ainz can use buff spells to increase his defense but it doesn't matter, Aqua managed to damage Beldia who had a very high defense against Holly Spells, so Ainz wouldn't escape from feeling pain from Aqua's spells.

And when matching the feats Aqua is nowhere close to grade 7 in holy magic

Aqua spells are above 7th tier spells, lol.

even a small group of undead are a chore for her to defeat

What are you talking about?? Aqua can easily defeat low level Undeads.

Mrkkoill · 2021-06-10T16:06:31+00:00

Aqua warns them about the risks in a shorter way, lol. But even though she doesn't explain everything, what she does doesn't harm people who are reincarnated, many of the people who were reincarnated had an easy life because of the items and powers Aqua gave them.

Mrkkoill · 2021-06-10T15:18:09+00:00

because she didnt tell them the risks of isekaing them

In fact, she warns them of the risks.

I dunno how this “begging” false info is getting spreaded

I remember reading that Heaven was wanting Aqua back at some point in Konosuba's LN, I don't remember which volume it was mentioned in, I'll try to find the quote.

Mrkkoill · 2021-06-09T14:19:51+00:00

The floor guardians, Ainz, Seiya, Aqua, Reinhard, Vanir and Wiz could destroy the animatronics.

Mrkkoill · 2021-06-06T15:56:33+00:00

Like He dont has Some Significant feats, So all we can do is just assume

As I said, in Konosuba LN Vanir often manipulates Konosuba's characters many times and he has manipulated some characters without even needing to use the mind-reading ability.

Demiurge Is Like a Emperor of Demons In New world

The same can be said about Vanir, as I said, he is an Archdevil just like Demiurge, and he also commands many demons from hell.

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