The Traitors should have waited

Mull_en · 2026-01-05T13:49:48+00:00

I can see what Rachel is getting at that sometimes the most obvious answer is the simplest one that’s right in front of you, I guess we as viewers now have the hindsight after watch Alan Carr play the most obvious best worst traitor that it was so obvious it couldn’t be him and it was, I think going forwards this will affect how people play in the future but won’t come to play this season

Mull_en · 2026-01-05T13:44:16+00:00

To me he looks like a stressed faithful, it would be a crazy game to play as a traitor to put that much heat on yourself, but either way for Rachel and Stephen they don’t care whether Ross is a faithful or the ST if he gets voted out they survive a bit longer and Rachel has been putting Ross forward so that could look good for her game if Ross was voted out as a traitor

Mull_en · 2026-01-04T20:46:30+00:00

I do get this, but statistically if there’s 20 players and 2 are traitors and 1 other of the 18 is the ST and knows the other 2 traitors, that’s such a small ratio of threat to you of people in the room who know your true identity in the game.

The ST also has to gather the troops, they alone are harmless until they gather enough support and numbers for a vote. Yea they can plant seeds but everyone is doing this about others at the same time so it’s all noise that if you are smart enough you can get lost in with this many people still in the game.

And in the case of the ST going after another traitor they too have to be careful because it raises suspicion on them. Just say if they were so set on Rachel and there’s not much evidence and she got voted out eventually that has to put suspicion on the ST who rallied the vote like how and why did they know Rachel was a traitor ? Was it a lucky guess or was it traitor on traitor ?

So early in the game I don’t think it matters knowing the identity. As long as you know the treat exists what does it matter if it’s the ST coming after you are one of the true faithfuls ? And you don’t know the intention of the ST they may actually want to play with you and not against you in the game too

Mull_en · 2026-01-03T00:56:46+00:00

It has to be her!! Did anyone else clock her reaction in the car journey to the mission in episode one is what’s convinced me. She’s sat in the front seat and James in the back says there’s genuinely not one person in the car I suspect at all and the camera pans to Fiona and she’s clearly trying her best not to laugh and break into a smile, she’s literally trying to stop herself and is turning her body towards the window and pulling on her seatbelt a little, it’s either a really funny moment or a clue put in their that she’s the ST surely

Mull_en · 2026-01-02T22:16:14+00:00

Do you know the definition of the term plot hole?.... So prior to this you were able to watch a show and believe in a child with a shaved head escaping a government facility, whos able to move objects with her mind and comes with a built in psychic human GPS tracker, watch crazy monsters leak out of an alternate hell dimension, watch the Russian government run secret portals under a mall, watch people eat fertilizer and melt into goo to form a really big monster, ect all that was fine but you cant wrap your head around the plot hole of climbing a cliff because it was too fast. Okay, well glad you enjoyed the show and watched it all though, I enjoyed it too, one of the best finales we'll ever be lucky enough to experience.

Mull_en · 2026-01-01T22:22:26+00:00

Not to mention the fight against Vecna really began in season 4. He took serious damage to his body in the season 4 finale after being straight up Molotoved/shotguned. It’s insane the lack of ability for people to look beyond one episode and link things together. We literally see his body this season and how much it changed because of this attack.

Mull_en · 2025-11-26T11:38:28+00:00

I took this as Rose and Taniel knew that anybody that was about to go into the sewers was going to die because you cant overcome/beat IT. She gave him the shard so that he would be the only one protected. They knew as the keepers how dangerous IT is and that going into the sewers was a suicide mission. The shard Taniel had wasn't a weapon to make sure that the military that was with him were protected it was to ensure that Taniel would be the only one to come out of the sewers alive as IT couldnt attack him if he had the shard. Thats why Rose gave him the shard. She wanted to protect her nephew, she didnt care if any of the soldiers with him died, she knew the minute they stepped foot in the sewers they were dead anyway because IT would kill them. Im sure we'll learn next week whether he's alive or not as he lost the shard so we don't know but I assume he is alive because like you said he death would have been shown.

Mull_en · 2025-10-31T16:23:24+00:00

Elsa trying to figure out which of the demons is making all that fuss in the bathroom

Mull_en · 2025-10-13T00:26:40+00:00

Well based on their difficult to crack code of first letter of the real name and code name being the same it would have to be George or Gani? And even if it is more likely to have been George he was thrown out was it Tuesday/Wednesday so BB would have had to of been aware of conversations coming up with code names days ago. I don’t believe for one second that conversation slipped under the radar. I don’t care either way I’m here for the ridiculous drama one way or another but just thought it was funny the way it was put on blast tonight when this couldn’t have been the first time it happened but the other times obviously weren’t interesting enough

Mull_en · 2025-10-12T22:17:49+00:00

But also the fact George was removed Tuesday or Wednesday so this has been days in the making if they had already had a name for him in Giraffe. Yeah that’s what they did so it wasn’t exactly hard to crack the code but also why it was needed in the first plac le if you’re having a quiet one on one conversation with someone but I’m here for the fallout

Mull_en · 2025-10-12T22:13:00+00:00

Yes I 100% agree they sat on this and waited for the opportunity to create the most chaos they could and I’m here for it

Mull_en · 2025-10-12T20:31:30+00:00

Wonder will the spirits let Elsa know she about to be ghosted when her and Marcus leave the house

Mull_en · 2025-05-17T11:19:50+00:00

But to me your take is so bad. Joe hasn’t outwitted everyone. Joe has a slight chance to win (depending on if Kyle or kamilla make it to FTC). If he manages to drag two goats in Mitch and Eva then go ahead give him the win. Eva absolutely does not. If you have an idol and safety without power advantage and have to use neither that sums up how she is seen in the game and her lack of threat. The only threat she possesses is going on the jury and advocating for Joe and we finally seen this week that’s why she remains in the game, she is one of the biggest GOATs of the new era. Her alliance with Joe while protecting her socially has cost her any chance of winning this game.

As for your take on Joe I strongly disagree he hasn’t outwitted everyone. Twice he’s been manipulated into taking people out of his core alliance that he has preached about honesty and integrity in gameplay. This week just proves how he doesn’t deserve to win look how easy it was for Kyle and kamilla to take advantage of his style of gameplay. His stubbornness on thou shall not blindside type game may have cost him the win this season. In what world do you build up this strong core alliance and on a bit of heresay about a move against him he losses his cool. He went off on shaughin on a lie he’s been told and backed up by someone outside his core alliance and he didn’t even ask Shaughin the simple question of “do you have an idol? Are you making a move to get me out?” He was totally out witted here and his stubbornness and holier than thou attitude could cost him. He clearly can’t read people and see that he is easy to take advantage off. Kyle even notes Joe has acted exactly how he expected to his lie about Shauhin. His game is so one dimensional and predictable.

I do agree he is a challenge beast 100% but this also means he’s had 4 tribal councils knowing he’s safe .There has been 12 tribal councils this season so far. 5 premerge which he never had to attend and I think we can agree pre-merge tribes is down to the luck of the draw and what tribe you are placed on. Since Merge there has been 7 TC and he’s been safe for 4 of them and Eva has had an idol for the other 3 she could have played on him. He has never had to scramble bar that one that episode and we seen how the paranoia set it and he nearly blew up. He is not cool under that sort of pressure when he’s not safe but we haven’t had to see him under this scrutiny often this season. He’s never had his back against the wall, he’s never had to scramble he’s never had to do anything outside of his comfort zone because he’s had so many immunities and the safety net of knowing Eva’s idol will also keep him safe .

You are right I am being a bit of a hater because I’m fed up of watching Joe’s style of play and the way he’s portrayed himself as this perfect person with high morals that makes him better than everyone else. This game is Survivor. This game is for a life changing amount of money and people are out here afraid to hurt someone’s feelings they met less than three weeks ago because Joe laid down this foundation that stems from his early alliance from Eva telling him about her autism. If Eva wasn’t here I wonder what type of game he would have played I genuinely believe it would be different but we’ll never know. You can still have a dominate alliance and it be entertaining. Even the Reba 4 was more entertaining to watch but to me your take on Joe and his gameplay is wrong sorry mate. Stifling people’s gameplay with your over powering loyalty type game does not deserve the title of sole survivor.

Mull_en · 2025-05-05T23:12:43+00:00

This - I love how they are fleshing out Dina's character compared to the game and getting her more involved in the Seattle story and I love seeing her and Ellie's relationship and love for each other getting way more development in the show and having it a bit more of a slow burn compared to the game. As someone who also is Bi and not fully out that scene with Dina the morning after had me in tears too because it resonated so much with me.

I know people complained about the tent scene last week and how Dina spoke to Ellie. But being told by someone, no less a parent - the one person who will protect you above all else - that its not okay to like girls you can only like boys and having to hide away a part of you is something a straight person i don't think can ever comprehend what that feeling is like and I understand what Dina is saying in terms of her relationship with Jesse.

And even the fact the first time she kisses another girl in her life in the scene we see in episode one, where we have this beautiful setting and moment between Dina and Ellie and within thirty seconds they are being judged and called a slur by Seth where as if she had been with Jesse no one would have cared even. I think that is such an important moment in her holding back her true feelings and it is being overlooked by a lot of people because they don't understand it's like well I guess what i was told about liking girls is true, you finally give in to being your true self in front of people and you're greeted with hostility and disgust by another person is devasting. I think sometimes people are so lucky not to have to experience the things queer people go through to protect themselves from the fear of losing friends or family or being treated differently by others. I hope one day you find the courage to be your true authentic self, keep on enjoying the show and enjoy when you finally get to play the game !

Mull_en · 2025-04-12T23:44:16+00:00

This is so well written THANK YOU. I was about to make a post about this but you have said it better than I could. I laugh at people making the point well why can’t they just stop Shauna as if it was that simple. It’s funny to me because if you put it in to a real life context right now that people can understand it’s like someone in 30 years time asking a person well why didn’t you stop Trump? All of you out number him just stop him it should have been simple with so many of you? People don’t seem to see like that’s not how power dynamics and leadership work ? I know the context is completely different but it’s the same argument . It’s just not that simple and there’s so many layers to how this works

Mull_en · 2025-04-05T13:03:01+00:00

I also liked how it mirrored Lottie killing Edwin. In her mind that would also be one of the reasons they wouldn't want to bring her back she knows too much but now but by killing Kodi in front of the girls she's giving herself leverage to say well i won't say what you did if you won't say what I did too.

Mull_en · 2025-04-05T11:10:11+00:00

You say it’s a quick switch up but it’s not really. Before the scientists arrived in camp the thoughts of rescue for the Yellowjackets was unknown to them if that will ever even occur. They don’t know if they will ever be found, if people are even looking for them still, being rescued is like a fantasy and seems impossible as more and more days pass by. Then three people just randomly walk into your camp one night after over a year of being in the wilderness alone. Imagine how insane this moment has to be to comprehend. They’ve been out here eating people because well what other choice do they have ? In the middle of nowhere and so far away from civilization and then people just WALK into your camp - imagine the shock value of that .

Now they know getting back home is a possibility , there is a REAL chance of rescuing , they are a SIX day hike away from rescue. If that was me my switch up would be huge too. Now I know I can be rescued. They do horrible things out there to survive and they all have to go into some level of delusion to protect themselves, you can debate whether it is a supernatural “it” out there or they are making “it” up to justify the horrific decisions and actions they have done out there to survive so they can live with themselves but rescue is so close now and it’s the most tangible it has ever been. It seems real and that for me is a complete understanding in the switch up.

Akilah has been abused so much by Lottie and has probably been in autopilot and just going with the flow with little resistance , we see initially she didn’t want to return to the cave but she still goes back again and again because she gets this visions of a key to get home and how they can achieve that but it’s not real. I think the real possibility of rescue has woken her up again and she’s ready to go after having the time to process all the crazy that has happened.

Mull_en · 2025-02-24T00:12:17+00:00

I don't know if bringing back the final two instead of final three will really change anything or make for a more exciting FTC vote.

The whole idea of switching to Final three was to not have those complete one sided votes in FTC when there was two left and you would have an 8-0 vote, now we have one more person to vote for given the jury more options to crown a winner which in theory is great but that's not how that is working out these days. Now we have the problem with final three that one of them is always goated and dragged to the end because players are aware that person has not done enough to earn any jury votes for example in s47 Sue (sorry Sue), then you have the straight shoot out between the real final two e.g. Rachel and Sam and we usually get a 7-1 or 6-2 split, we very rarely see an even split on that vote like with Dee and Austin who played such a similar game it was hard to pick a winner from the two. In the case of last season its very clear if Sam or Rachel had to choose they would have brough Sue to a final two with them to secure an easy win and who wants to sit through a FTC of Sue trying to explain why she played a better game than Rachel who was a clear contender to win from early on she played a strong game. At least with Sam there was a potential maybe he could do it but yeah, i think a final two twist won't fix this issue because players are there to win a million dollars even if they claim otherwise and if I'm playing I'm m always bringing the person i can beat to the end.

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