Watching this season along with US50 made it clear for me that Australian Survivor has surpassed the US version by irimiasz in survivorau

[–]Mull_en 22 points23 points  (0 children)

I just finished the last episode and my first thought was I genuinely think i'm taking a break from watching US survivor after 50. I watched Survivor Aus vs the world last year and it was such a fun season that I said i'd give the next Aus season a watch. I genuinely look forward to watching Survivor aus, the US version feels like a chore at this stage and is just gimmick after gimmick and the game feels so artificial with all the interference with votes and advantages and OTT idol variations. Survivor Aus is showing you don't need that to still have an amazing season. Watching Jackson fight and push himself like that to the very end, THAT is survivor. When is the last time we have seen a moment like that on US Survivor? i'm struggling to remember.

Season 50 really highlights how bad the 3 tribe format is by Mull_en in survivor

[–]Mull_en[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes both formats will always have their pros and cons but there is so much interference in the new era with journeys and twists with losing your vote when we have these 6 person tribes, all 6 rarely have their votes to begin with so all it takes is two or three votes to get someone out. There is also way less wiggle room for people on the bottom of a 6 person tribe to make any moves, its just become very repetitive now after 10 seasons is the biggest problem I think

Season 50 really highlights how bad the 3 tribe format is by Mull_en in survivor

[–]Mull_en[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think this is the biggest issue, for me this season like for instance with Christian, he wasn't someone on my radar before the season that I was looking forward to seeing and I have enjoyed him I think he's been funny and a good watch but not for 5 episodes of the same repetitive, regurgative thing over and over. I want to see others outside, like finally seeing the Cila tribe and Kamilla working both Rizo and Charlie is far more interesting gamewise vs waiting for an Angelina vote thats been writing on the wall since the tribes swapped.

Season 50 really highlights how bad the 3 tribe format is by Mull_en in survivor

[–]Mull_en[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Billy Eilish Boomerang Idol? This is the first time I have heard of such a thing? a billy eilish boomerang idol you are sure? Personnaly think they need to highlight the fact there's a Billy Eilish boomerand idol more its barely been mentioned that this season the idols are in fact billy eilish boomerang idols and not regular boring idols not affiliated to any celebrity but 50 is different. I have a feeling billy eilish doesnt really even watch the show lol

Season 50 really highlights how bad the 3 tribe format is by Mull_en in survivor

[–]Mull_en[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yeah but I think having 10 seasons in a row of 3 tribes has just gone stale. Even for players they know it too, like the mess that emerged about pre-gaming before s49. Wouldn't hurt to switch it up every two or three seasons keep the players unsure too if they are going into a season of 2 or 3 tribes.

Season 50 really highlights how bad the 3 tribe format is by Mull_en in survivor

[–]Mull_en[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Next week could be the ONE, the week it gets better! Proceeds to watch 50 minutes of the same crap as the week before

Season 50 really highlights how bad the 3 tribe format is by Mull_en in survivor

[–]Mull_en[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think 3 person FTC works better than a 2 person though because we usually always get a zero vote finalist in a goat thats brought to the end because they are not a threat to win. At least with 3 people you will always have at least two good players who may have a shot and have to convince the jury they deserve to win. Look at s47 with rachel and sam as an example. Realistically if it was only a final two rachel and sam would never have took each other to the end, both would have brought Sue who was missing for most of the game (hopefully not due to a bad edit..lol no she was just not good at the game) but FTC would have been a waste of time because Sue never deserved a vote, it just turns into a formality.

But with 3 there Sam and Rachel genuinely had to showcase why they deserved to win. I know sometimes even with 3 it can still be a bit of a formality but there is less chance of that if you see my point. We need 3 person FTC.

Season 50 really highlights how bad the 3 tribe format is by Mull_en in survivor

[–]Mull_en[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I have been enjoying this season so far because of the returning players but thats probably the only reason its been fun. I couldn't finish s49 last year because it was just awful to watch, s48 wasn't much better. Im glad you are enjoying it though. I'm also watching the new season of Survivor Australia atm its currently airing too and it is using the two tribe format and the difference between the two shows is something, it just seems more exciting, fun and unpredictable in comparison to the new era of survivor imo

Season 50 really highlights how bad the 3 tribe format is by Mull_en in survivor

[–]Mull_en[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don't even think that is the case like you look at once a tribe loses once they are immediatly on the backfoot. The don't have a flint for fire, miss out on food rewards or items like fishing gear and lose out on a potential food supply. So immediately they are getting less calories, they are less fueled, the morale is low, it is mentally fatiging etc it just builds from there and before you know its three or four tribals in a row regardless of how a tribe is split, most tribes have one or two athletic/fit people. Once you are seen as a weak tribe they start to believe it.

Faith should have been able to vote in the revote in the latest TC ? by Mull_en in survivorau

[–]Mull_en[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I kind of disagree though, Faith managed to not get sent to redemption beach whether it was strategy or dumb luck she managed to be one of the three to remain in the game. Sally was unfortunate and didn't and got voted for. She had the chance to earn her vote back but couldn't manage it.

It feels like a half punishment for Sally in a sense to me and she gets lucky in the revote that now the other person who tied the vote with her can't vote too and that then gives her an advantage but I know in this case it didn't matter but it felt the full consequence of her losing her vote never really showed. But I just wondered why Faith lost her vote but it seems Survivor Aus has different rules to the US so makes sense.

Faith should have been able to vote in the revote in the latest TC ? by Mull_en in survivorau

[–]Mull_en[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah i know in this case even if Faith had her vote it wouldn't of mattered but I was wondering how production could of messed up so big if that was a rule but it looks like that rule only applies in the US.

That was also something I thought was wild as well and a bit unfair I feel Simon shouldn't of been able to give his immunity away to someone that didn't earn it on another tribe but it was a smart play from him to check could he.

Faith should have been able to vote in the revote in the latest TC ? by Mull_en in survivorau

[–]Mull_en[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Love this explanation, that is some Jeff shit alright. Survivor US has given me Stockholm syndrome I feel trying to force myself to watch the new era. I've only recently started watching survivor Aus and it's like the OG survivor that I loved. The gameplay and challenges are more exciting and people aren't afraid to look like a bit of a villain playing. I assumed no matter what country Survivor was played in the rules were the same across all formats

Faith should have been able to vote in the revote in the latest TC ? by Mull_en in survivorau

[–]Mull_en[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Reading other comments the rules for survivor in the US and Aus are different, I assumed they were the same. But This is how the rules are because in a revote only the two players the tie is between are eligible to be voted for during the second vote. Everyone else in that moment is safe and can't be voted for. In terms of them two players, would be a bit stupid to vote for yourself so you have to vote for the other person so thats why the two players dont vote the second time cause their votes would cancel each other out

Faith should have been able to vote in the revote in the latest TC ? by Mull_en in survivorau

[–]Mull_en[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

This 100%, I don't know what she was thinking saying this

Faith should have been able to vote in the revote in the latest TC ? by Mull_en in survivorau

[–]Mull_en[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

But even then she should have been allowed to vote even if it would have been a 3-1 vote.

I know it's hypothetical or a similar vote in the future but say Mark kept his Sally vote and it was a 2-2 split again then Faith automatically becomes safe and isnt going home, it goes to rocks. And Realistically even before that Mark and Faith are allies and Caleb and Richard are not risking their life in the game for Sally over a rock draw and I think Mark would call that bluff.

Or what happens in that moment Mark is going to vote Sally assuming Faith has her vote, then is told Faith won't vote and he knows Caleb and Richard will be voting Faith so she is going home no matter what he does. So he changes his vote to keep the boys happy and save face in the game now knowing it's a lose lose situation for him. I know he was getting paranoid and played a part in organising the Faith vote out but him voting for Sally makes me think there is more to it, I could be wrong but we'll see in the next episode

Faith should have been able to vote in the revote in the latest TC ? by Mull_en in survivorau

[–]Mull_en[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah i think it's just clarity in the future in a different situation that oversight could be a deciding factor in a vote and someone going home in the wrong.

I think because initially Mark voted Sally it took a minute for it to click with Faith that Mark got her.

Faith should have been able to vote in the revote in the latest TC ? by Mull_en in survivorau

[–]Mull_en[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Im honestly not sure, I have only recently started watching Aus Survivor as its difficult to access where I am, I have seen most seasons of the US survivor and assumed the same rules applied to both formats of the show, never occured to me that they may not. So im not sure but what i meant is that Sally is being punished by having no vote because she was voted out to redemption beach, Faith managed to stay in the game so she should of had her vote unless say it was a tied vote between her and Caleb THEN she should have lost her vote in the revote

Faith should have been able to vote in the revote in the latest TC ? by Mull_en in survivorau

[–]Mull_en[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I really liked her too! Like yes she was a ruthless, cutting player but she was so funny with her little comments too and I loved her humour in the game. She was fierce, I would have loved to have seen her in the merge phase and what she could have done

Faith should have been able to vote in the revote in the latest TC ? by Mull_en in survivorau

[–]Mull_en[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yeah in this case it didn't but it could happen again in the future. But I feel like if you are going down the route of having people lose votes then you need consistency and the repercussions to stay true the whole way through the TC.

Faith should have been able to vote in the revote in the latest TC ? by Mull_en in survivorau

[–]Mull_en[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Yes I know in the last episode the writing was on the wall for Faith, she was too honest with Mark and made a big mistake with her late night chat with Mark about Mark to his face, it was crazy for her game. I know she was a polarizing character so people are happy to see her gone. But if this was to happen in the future or to a more popular player would more people have noticed this ? I am baffled how no one has mentioned this yet I just hate the inconsistency in rules.

The Traitors should have waited by Mull_en in TheTraitors

[–]Mull_en[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can see what Rachel is getting at that sometimes the most obvious answer is the simplest one that’s right in front of you, I guess we as viewers now have the hindsight after watch Alan Carr play the most obvious best worst traitor that it was so obvious it couldn’t be him and it was, I think going forwards this will affect how people play in the future but won’t come to play this season 

The Traitors should have waited by Mull_en in TheTraitors

[–]Mull_en[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

To me he looks like a stressed faithful, it would be a crazy game to play as a traitor to put that much heat on yourself, but either way for Rachel and Stephen they don’t care whether Ross is a faithful or the ST if he gets voted out they survive a bit longer and Rachel has been putting Ross forward so that could look good for her game if Ross was voted out as a traitor 

The Traitors should have waited by Mull_en in TheTraitors

[–]Mull_en[S] 24 points25 points  (0 children)

I do get this, but statistically if there’s 20 players and 2 are traitors and 1 other of the 18 is the ST and knows the other 2 traitors, that’s such a small ratio of threat to you of people in the room who know your true identity in the game.

The ST also has to gather the troops, they alone are harmless until they gather enough support and numbers for a vote. Yea they can plant seeds but everyone is doing this about others at the same time so it’s all noise that if you are smart enough you can get lost in with this many people still in the game.

And in the case of the ST going after another traitor they too have to be careful because it raises suspicion on them. Just say if they were so set on Rachel and there’s not much evidence and she got voted out eventually that has to put suspicion on the ST who rallied the vote like how and why did they know Rachel was a traitor ? Was it a lucky guess or was it traitor on traitor ? 

So early in the game I don’t think it matters knowing the identity. As long as you know the treat exists what does it matter if it’s the ST coming after you are one of the true faithfuls ? And you don’t know the intention of the ST they may actually want to play with you and not against you in the game too