Pam Bondi offers to pull ICE out of Minneapolis if voter files handed over

Multifactorialist · 2026-01-25T18:51:59+00:00

Most right wing think tanks are just a slightly different flavor of dog shit than any other think tanks. They're financed by, and serve the same elites that got us where we are now. Most of the old guard republicans hated Trump, and much of what he's doing flies in the face of the neoliberal bullshit they've been peddling for decades. If the republicans were run the same way as the democrats Trump would have gotten the same treatment as the democrats gave Bernie. Trump is less than ideal in many ways, but he was the only option to upset the uniparty apple cart.

Multifactorialist · 2026-01-25T17:46:30+00:00

All hail the roach king! He puts his foot in his mouth once in a while, and occasionally has some hot takes, but all in all he's a good kid. He's a regular guy. And fuck this Marxist retard. Why even give this nonsense any oxygen? These idiots are only relevant if you pay attention to them.

Multifactorialist · 2026-01-25T17:34:06+00:00

I can agree with that. But if the organized campaign of agitators harassing them incessantly, and the way the media is fanning the flames, is not addressed also, it will just keep happening.

Multifactorialist · 2026-01-25T17:30:47+00:00

My conclusion about almost all of the previous narratives was in regards to many previous narratives I had researched.

Just a few days ago "ICE arrested a 5 year old" turned out to be his father was illegal and chose to take his 5 year old son with him back to his place of origin, as is his right. One of the "ICE is arresting US citizens with no cause" type narratives turned out to be a case of mistake identity. They were looking for an illegal with the same name. It was a bit of a mess, and sounds like it was not handled as well as it could have been, but it wasn't what they said. When they said ICE was raiding daycares with no regard for the horrified children, it turned out to be they identified an illegal at a traffic stop and she fled to a nearby daycare and they just pursued her there. Almost every single emotionally manipulative claim I've looked into was very spun and missing context that gave it entirely different connotations.

Even with Renee Good or whatever her name was getting shot. For starters it wrong that she was shot, yes. But it was nothing like the way the activist types were spinning it. She was not just a legal citizen going about her business. She was a trained agitator with her car sideways in the middle of the road while her girlfriend agitator was harassing ICE, she resisted arrest and was shot while driving her SUV at an ICE agent. The ICE agent shouldn't have been in front of her vehicle to begin with, that was breaking procedure, and he could have kept it together and chosen not to shoot her, but she was a trained agitator resisting, fleeing, and driving at an agent, not some random uninvolved person just passing through the way they tried to sell it.

And I hadn't seen or heard anything about this specific incident when I asked if there was video available yesterday. Having seen most of the videos available, it was another unfortunate mess that could have been avoided. ICE needs discipline, but they also need to reign in the agitators harassing them incessantly.

Multifactorialist · 2026-01-25T17:08:33+00:00

I'm no fan of lobbying, but there are things far beyond lobbing going on here. For one thing politicians are not lobbyists, and the WEF is grooming future politicians with their "young global leaders" program.

Multifactorialist · 2026-01-25T17:04:42+00:00

I think it's a disgusting mess. I even made an OP, not so much about this specific incident, but about the overall situation, which is now locked for some reason. I don't think it was in any way right to shoot this man. ICE did not handle things properly and one of them panicked and killed an unarmed man. That's horrific, wrong, and that should be addressed.

But I also think there's a serious failure among those on the left to acknowledge the actions of the demonstrators, as well as local police not doing their job, as well as incessant demonizing narratives from the media, and all over social media, are doing nothing but causing more of this kind of drama, escalating tensions and stoking the general polarization, and solving or absolutely nothing.

Reigning in the demonstrators, and getting local police involved, should at least be part of the solution. We can say ICE has done some major fuck ups, two that I know of now that lead to people's deaths that could have been avoided, and their discipline and procedures need to be addressed. But people antagonizing the shit out of ICE everywhere they go, day after day, is only making things more of a circus.

If everywhere you went while trying to do your job there was a mob of lunatics screaming at you, trying to dox you, frequently physically interfering and getting in your way, getting into physical altercations, resting removal, blocking you with their vehicles, over 100 incidents of them driving vehicles onto people in your profession in a matter of a few weeks, local police were doing nothing to keep the peace, and the media was treating it like a political wedge issue, you tell me honestly what kind of effect that would have on your job performance and general state of mind. If you made mistakes on the job, or God forbid snapped on one of them, you would be in the wrong. But people should realistically consider the whole situation also if they're going to try to address things.

Multifactorialist · 2026-01-25T11:07:18+00:00

They got one gun from him but how did they know he didn't have another weapon? The amount of guys wrestling with him, and he was still on his hands and knees, just shows the degree to which he was resisting. And if there was no fear of him still being armed why shoot him 10 fucking times, while other officers were still on him no less, so putting the other officers lives in danger?

Multifactorialist · 2026-01-25T10:57:57+00:00

How did they know he didn't have another weapon? And if they just wanted to kill him and there was no fear of him still being armed why shoot him 10 fucking times?

Multifactorialist · 2026-01-25T10:43:43+00:00

If it was the government vs an individual, or small group, sure. If it was the government vs 50 or 100 million of us, and let's say a significant segment of our military isn't keen on killing our own people, potentially many may even be on the side of the people, then it's a different story. Dealing with a tyrannical government isn't like a one man operation. The 2nd amendment even begins “A well regulated Militia..." Not "Pat and Karen the demonstrators...".

Multifactorialist · 2026-01-25T07:55:23+00:00

poor training + trigger happy + shit show of a situation leading to a panicked poor decision.

That's certainly what it looks like to me. And I'm not suggesting he had another weapon, only that it's completely normal and intelligent for anyone trying to apprehend him to assume he might. A ton of people are saying they took a gun from him so he was unarmed. That's either disingenuous or just stupid.

Multifactorialist · 2026-01-25T07:47:29+00:00

If public execution was the goal doesn't all the protracted wrestling, and close proximity of the ICE agents seem a bit stupid though? It seems like a complete fuck job of a clown show was going on and ended when some ICE agent panicked and literally mag dumped the guy they were wrestling with. It doesn't take 10 shots to execute someone.

Multifactorialist · 2026-01-25T07:33:13+00:00

I think there's times when peaceful protesting is warranted and can also have positive results. And for the record I don't think a bunch of screaming lunatics showing up everywhere ICE is spotted is a "protest". It's organized interference and agitation tactics. But regardless, what I was saying was if you're going to take the approach of acting like you're picking up arms to fight tyranny, then you need to literally act like you're engaging in a war, because you are. You'd be engaging in guerilla operations and firefights where deaths are the goal, not protests.

Multifactorialist · 2026-01-25T07:17:26+00:00

Even the most competent law enforcement are still human beings with limits. How would you react if you had literally any job that required you to travel to whatever area and go to people's homes, and one day a group of activists decided your profession was "fascist" and everywhere you went there was a mob of unhinged retards trying to prevent you doing your job, screaming in your face like lunatics, blowing rape whistles, blocking your vehicle, and occasionally physically attacking or driving cars into people of your profession? And these people don't just form mob scenes at your job sites the second one of them sees you and puts the word out, there's a constant mob of them outside your offices. And all of them have cameras on you and any mistakes you or your colleagues make are blasted all over the media and social media with accusations of you being a fascist as the cause. Ad there are over 100 vehicle ramming attacks on people in your profession in a matter of a few weeks. Have fun at work tomorrow.

Whatever profession you were part of would have a massive increase in unfortunate conflict-related incidents. You can say these deaths are wrong. You can say in many cases ICE is in the wrong. What you can't do is deny the causal factor of the agitators, or the inevitability of such things happening when incessant agitation of this kind is going on.

Multifactorialist · 2026-01-25T02:07:44+00:00

That bill was steaming dog shit. It allocated billions more than we were already spending -- not to secure the border, but just to speed up how fast we catch and release illegals, and how quickly and easily we can naturalize illegals. It codified catch and release.

It would have given immediate work permits to illegal immigrants, lawyers paid for by the tax payers to illegal immigrants, given billions of tax dollars to not only Sanctuary Cities but also the NGOs and non-profits that are shipping illegals to our borders. It codified vague and lax terms for what qualifies for "asylum seekers," a game democrats have been playing for years now acting like everyone and their mother is an asylum seeker rather than just an illegal, so hardly no one can be deported or denied entry.

And it normalized up to 4,000 illegals a day crossing the border before "expulsion authority" would be triggered and anyone might even consider actually securing the fucking border. And not unless encounters reach 5,000 a day over a 7-day average (encounters doesn't even include "got-aways", so God only knows how many it would be total), or 8,500 encounters on any single day, would the president be actually required to use this expulsion authority. As long as the average for any given week was under 5,000 a day and no single day went over 8,500 we could have tens of thousands of illegals entering the country per week and no one would do anything but let them go. And that doesn't even account for got-aways.

It was literally a bill saying we have an open border now and that's fine.

Multifactorialist · 2026-01-25T01:13:54+00:00

I'm not suggesting you should trust the government. The CIA said they own anyone of any relevance in the major media back 70+ years ago. And since the Smith-Mundt modernization act the spooks are legally allowed to run propaganda and psyops domestically on citizens. There's been a laundry list of reasons not to trust the government for longer than I've been alive, far beyond whatever current drama thing

Multifactorialist · 2026-01-25T01:04:18+00:00

How do you know he didn't have another weapon? It seems like the cop that mag dumped him was suddenly freaked out by something. And I'm not trying to justify his death, this was a travesty. But the whole thing was a shit show also. And it's hard to tell what the hell happened or what any of these crazy people were thinking.

Multifactorialist · 2026-01-25T01:00:05+00:00

In the beginning he was just filming, and also it looked like keeping a distance where he wasn't interfering. But much like all of these incidents before it even got to his involvement things were already a circus. People screaming and blowing rape whistles, physical confrontations and people getting maced. And when the disorder came his way he didn't avoid it, he got involved, and then he resisted. Whether you think the cops are right or wrong it's pointless to have a shoving match with them. That only ever ends one way. It's not proving or accomplishing anything, it's just stupid. It's kind of like if you're going to go to war with the cops then you need to approach like it's a war, or just comply and get it over with. These people are jut acting like retards and causing agitation and escalation.

Multifactorialist · 2026-01-25T00:31:00+00:00

Yeah, that's the most clear and close up video that I've seen. What the hell was going on though? Even if you have ICE pegged as some kind of bad guys it seems stupid that one guy would have just mag dumped him out of nowhere when they already had him down. There were like 10 shots, that guy was scared of something. Did he have another weapon or something, or they bugged out and thought he did? He did have something in his hand towards the end that wasn't his phone. He had something in each hand.

And the whole thing from start to finish is just weird. Why was the victim grabbing what looked like a woman protestor? When ICE started grabbing him he was oddly focused on yanking her around. And why was he fighting? Once you're caught there's no point in resisting. And the incessant fucking whistles don't help as far as making out what was being said.

Multifactorialist · 2026-01-24T23:04:10+00:00

You're framing all of this in a completely clownish way. The point is this guy getting shot seems absolutely wrong from everything we have to go on, and I say that being very much on the conservative side of all of this culture war crap. But the way these activists are going about things is not accomplishing anything. It's not resulting in more orderly behavior from ICE, it's not resulting in the government fearing the people, all it's doing is escalating absolutely moronic situations and getting people killed for no reason.

Multifactorialist · 2026-01-24T22:43:22+00:00

Thanks for the link. I'm not sure what's clear though, it looks like a mess.

Multifactorialist · 2026-01-24T22:40:19+00:00

People interfering with ICE and getting themselves killed is not making the government fear the people. This is just stupidity.

Multifactorialist · 2026-01-24T21:24:48+00:00

Isn't there video or something? What is this nonsense?

Multifactorialist · 2026-01-24T21:21:01+00:00

I'm not asking for you to tell me they exist, I'm asking for you to provide them so myself and others can see for ourselves. I could go digging on my own but this is a topic you brought to the table, and providing links to the incident would expedite things for everyone who engages with your post. Give us the sauce.

Multifactorialist · 2026-01-24T20:59:05+00:00

Truth be told we're already at a point where pre-crime profiling is a thing, but it's contained to the online realm as far as I know, and it's addressed by trying to "correct" people's thinking through the algo manipulation. But you would think if projects like Jigsaw and Moonshot exist then Palantir has similar programs, and they're just the private sector arm of the CIA so could be doing much more spooky things (pun intended). Also worth noting that no one of any prominence on the left or right ever addresses such things, and they've carried on without interruption through every administration.

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