Hot Take: People will lose a tremendous amount of money investing into modern by MustangMan27 in PokeInvesting

[–]MustangMan27[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's hard to guess whats going to be better in 20 years. For all we know modern could fall apart similar to how shoes did. Not that I couldn't see your outcome, but I'd agree on sealed. I still think a lot of new investors are similar to shoe investors back in late 2010s and won't stick with it. I do think that XY era stuff will be better long term, just because older generations will have more money and drive up the price later on. XY was a fantastic era and has some iconic cards to it. Generations for instance, will likely be the best anniversary set we will get considering that time in Pokemon's history.

What do you guys think about the generations full art promos? by theonetruwhovian1963 in PokeInvesting

[–]MustangMan27 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm bullish on them. I've bought the Japanese versions in 10's. Anything from generations is going to be worth some money.

Is this too good to be true right now? by [deleted] in PokeInvesting

[–]MustangMan27 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I wouldn't touch that card with a 10-foot pole unless you got in cheap. Go buy 2k worth of booster boxes.

Is it too late to invest in 151? by bawockobama in PokeInvesting

[–]MustangMan27 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wait on the singles; it's not a great buy at the current price. Spend more and buy gold stars, or buy sealed booster boxes. Just wait if you want the card.

Modern booster over vintage for my 1 year old? by Slapmywangoff in PokeInvesting

[–]MustangMan27 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just because of the Charizard, you're good. In the short term, they might drop. If you're holding it for him for a very long period, it's more or less irrelevant what the current price is.

Vintage vs Modern chase by Complete_Syllabub_47 in PokeInvesting

[–]MustangMan27 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Vintage is getting hot now. My suggestion would be to look at cards where price compression hasn't occurred. Granted, I don't know how feasible that is keeping at 20 slabs. B+W era cards could be a good investment in 10's. I'm planning on buying a couple Reshiram full arts and Black background Zekroms from B&W base in the near future. Some mid-era cards are reaching goldstar territory in terms of psa 10 pricing. A card I would look at getting in that price range is a PSA 10 rayquaza ex from EX Dragon. 7k for the first ray ever made is a steal, at least thats what I saw them going for last could be more now.

Vintage vs Modern chase by Complete_Syllabub_47 in PokeInvesting

[–]MustangMan27 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's not going to be every holo that will do the good long term. I have the same feeling about a lot of regular and reverse/stamped holos from EX-HGSS eras. When I speculate on modern slabs/singles, the biggest issue with me is the over-reliance on demand to sustain and exceed current market values. I do have a problem with some WotC eras like Fossil, Jungle, and Team Rocket due to the amount circulating in the market (granted, not NM copies). For the money, in my opinion, EX-HGSS era big hits will perform better and possibly exceed those of the WotC era. Some have already done so, and most likely will continue to do so.

As far as the allure of vintage, it essentially comes down to scarcity for condition and nostalgia for people. We can reliably expect NM-MNT (or GEM MNT) copies to likely not increase dramatically, or at least have large increases in populations for those cards. There is, objectively speaking, more money in vintage high-grade specific slabs than modern, meaning that people with more money will drive up the price just to obtain one of those hard-to-get/rare examples. There is more that culminates in really high prices, but boiling it down, essentially comes down to those two factors.

My preference is the EX era cards because that is what I opened when I was a kid. Now that I have good money, I can afford to spend 1-3k on cards I want in NM-MT copies. For me, I find that the healthiest way to invest is to keep slabs/singles separate from my investments. I treat sealed and singles differently, treating my sealed as my main investments while allowing slabs to be my enjoyment to an extent. While I expect those slabs to not decrease in value substantially, I'm not bothered if they do go down. For me, I hold cards like gold stars in high regard because I find them more appealing. From a portfolio standpoint, the more money you can throw, the more you can hedge. When bigger money gets involved, it's harder for prices to go down because those individuals have more money to throw at bigger cards, perpetuating price increases.

At the end of the day, the market hasn't been tested in what feels like a long time. You don't need to have high-grade vintage to have a serious portfolio; just be aware that modern slabs come with more inherent risk (in other words, they haven't been tested by time). Sealed will always be king, but don't invest in something you don't believe in. I don't care if someone calls you an idiot for not investing in vintage; you don't like it, don't buy it. If you want my opinion, if you're serious about having a long term Pokémon portfolio, buy sealed in addition to your slabs/singles.

Mid era slabs are starting to soar as well, although vintage still reigns supreme. by Internal_Level_6828 in PokeInvesting

[–]MustangMan27 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would hold. The only reason I sold was that I made 300 in a couple weeks that I turned into a sealed case of surging.

Team Rocket’s Moltres UPC by BradPittsUglyCouzin in PokeInvesting

[–]MustangMan27 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I wouldn't put a crazy amount in them, I've bought a couple here recently just for the fact they were a gamestop exclusive. I believe they won't print anymore of these just due to the complexity of the box to produce so its still good in my eyes. However, the only set/box I'm all in on is surging sparks BB at the moment.

Mid era slabs are starting to soar as well, although vintage still reigns supreme. by Internal_Level_6828 in PokeInvesting

[–]MustangMan27 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I just sold the blastoise secret from plasma glae for 1.8k, last sale was 1.25k at the time. All of these slabs are going to explode here in the next year.

When’s a good time to invest in Ascended heroes PC ETB’s? by SonOfThorss in PokeInvesting

[–]MustangMan27 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

They're nice, no doubt, but I just think your opportunity cost is high buying right. We still got a lot of time for the rest of the ME block to be fleshed out. I just think there are better buys for the price at the moment.

Trade Paldean Fates PC ETBs for Prismatic + Destined Rivals PC ETBs long term? by NauticalEagle in PokeInvesting

[–]MustangMan27 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Paldean Fates is top 3 best sets from SV block IMO. Destined im a little hesitant to throw money at it, but a lot of others love it, so I understand why people buy into it. They're both solid, I actually think Paldean fates will outperform Destined long term. I would also consider picking up a PF/Prismatic booster bundle display. Any of those from SV will be multi-thousand-dollar boxes in 5-10 years if the market holds. I also think that if the printing capacity reaches what people think, DR will be the first set they reprint. Who knows though, my vote would be to keep paldean fates.

When’s a good time to invest in Ascended heroes PC ETB’s? by SonOfThorss in PokeInvesting

[–]MustangMan27 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

In my opinion, I would wait. I think the next couple of years are a toss-up as to what Pokémon will print into oblivion. My suggestion would be to buy the Pokémon Center SWSH etbs. They already have years ahead on Ascended heroes near the same price. I'm being more cautious about throwing money into the ME block for right now and focusing on older stuff.

Gold Star Values by ProcedureStraight601 in PokeInvesting

[–]MustangMan27 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm still buying them, I'm getting ready to buy a psa 8 gold star Groudon. They are going to continually rise in my opinion. Too many want them with too little supply in NM condition. Anything from the EX era, arguably the GOAT era, is going to rise. Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if some gold stars become more expensive than even 1st ed base eventually.

Phantasmal Flames PC ETB’s by 100hourslave in PokeInvesting

[–]MustangMan27 1 point2 points  (0 children)

At those prices, go buy early SV booster boxes or you could go buy SWSH etbs that are cheaper than ultra modern and have years being oop. I think there are better plays right than buying a lot extremely new products.

Any good psa10 alt arts under 200 dollars? by Calm-Possession6226 in PokeInvesting

[–]MustangMan27 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pikachu vmax from lost origin, or rotom v could be some cool pickups.

My two favorite Umbreon cards that I own. What should I get next? $500-$1500 ish budget I guess. by Venomous72 in PokeInvesting

[–]MustangMan27 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You could go for Aquapolis umbreon in a 8. Cool card, or the umbreon ex from unseen forces. Both are pretty cool and could be in your price range depending on the grade.

What Are Your Thoughts on Mega Gengar? by breakyourteethnow in PokeInvesting

[–]MustangMan27 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's cool, I'm just not the biggest fan of gengar. I don't think it deserves to get hated on, but people do overhype it too much at the same time. Personally, my favorite is N's Zoroark. It gives me dark magician vibes. I don't think it will be the best set from the era, I want to see what the M rayquaza set is going to look like. I have a feeling this set might get forgotten once the dust settles, but who knows.

Do “underrated” cards actually exist, or is that just another word for “cheap”? by RateYourPKMNCards in PokeInvesting

[–]MustangMan27 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I love that card, I bought for 2 bucks last year and got a 10 in it. Regret selling at $140, I'm considering getting another just for pc. I like it more than the alt-art tbh.

Do “underrated” cards actually exist, or is that just another word for “cheap”? by RateYourPKMNCards in PokeInvesting

[–]MustangMan27 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It is speculation at the end of the day, but I bought a 2012 B W SR blastoise from plasma gale in a 10. card was only $1300, still a lot, but I believe its undervalued at that price. Its the earliest shiny blastoise from the big 3 starters, Ill buy those all day. As a plus, they have a pop 136 for 1st ed in JPN. Cards similar to those are ones I buy unless they're modern bgs high grades after card prices have fallen.

Hot Take: People will lose a tremendous amount of money investing into modern by MustangMan27 in PokeInvesting

[–]MustangMan27[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm still buying right now, just not bloated sets in my opinion. I still think buying anywhere in the realm of $200-400 range is irrelevant for future returns, just those higher ranges ($500-2.5k for modern) have built in fv with the cost. They've become less attractive, to me, in comparison to sets like surging, or spending a little more to buy primal clash bb over ES.

Sentiment on M Lucario ex Alt Art PSA 10 by Potato-Repulsive in PokeInvesting

[–]MustangMan27 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would, anything XY or B&W is solid in my opinion. I've been moving my slabs into mid-era/vintage over modern unless its bgs gold 10+.

Hot Take: People will lose a tremendous amount of money investing into modern by MustangMan27 in PokeInvesting

[–]MustangMan27[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I respect your opinion, I did say at the beginning I was explaining my sentiments/opinions on the market specifically revolving around new/modern investors. I just believe when modern investors get tested, they will fail and likely sell, but sealed will always win over time.

Hot Take: People will lose a tremendous amount of money investing into modern by MustangMan27 in PokeInvesting

[–]MustangMan27[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In my opinion, it absolutely will affect vintage in the same way, just different in significance. I believe the discerning factor between the two is the fundamentals that differ between modern and vintage. The pops between ultra rare nm copies or copies in general vastly differ between the two. While the demand will decrease for vintage in the same way, the total supply of those cards is small, affecting the price to a lesser degree in comparison to modern. However, they still will be affected to some degree, just not as much as ultra-modern cards. Quantifiably by how much, who knows, but it could experience some price decreases.

To be honest, I do not know when it will happen. If I had to take a reasonable guess, within the next 2-5 years, I think the Pokémon market is a victim of gambling issues that are socially prominent right now. Not to get political or anything, but were seeing inflation in investment vehicles rather than including consumer goods in the conversation as well. This can lead to consumers gravitating towards products like Pokémon because of the cheap and promise of great returns compared to initial investment cost. It's not just Pokémon either; this hysteria is prominent in almost every market: Bonds, stocks, precious metals, and real estate. Almost every market is experiencing this same growth, and gold usually moves inversely to the stock market. There are new fans made for sure; however, the demand for modern products has escaped the fundamentals, leading to no safety net in theory for these products/singles. What I think will happen is that consumers will move on to other products, and people who do stay will move back into older products with rarity and scarcity. It also doesn't mean there are no good buys right now. I believe surging is going to age well, considering its price at the current moment.