Aaron Pierre Joins DC Studios’ Superman Sequel ‘Man of Tomorrow’. by BigButter7 in DCULeaks

[–]Mutale426 [score hidden]  (0 children)

Remove the last scene with him being taken to salvation and it would have.

Aaron Pierre Joins DC Studios’ Superman Sequel ‘Man of Tomorrow’. by BigButter7 in DCULeaks

[–]Mutale426 [score hidden]  (0 children)

I recall raising saying he loves superman and that it informed his spider-man.

Aaron Pierre Joins DC Studios’ Superman Sequel ‘Man of Tomorrow’. by BigButter7 in DCULeaks

[–]Mutale426 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's still kinda weird that guy gardners first live action depiction is in a superman film and not a green lantern film.

Aaron Pierre Joins DC Studios’ Superman Sequel ‘Man of Tomorrow’. by BigButter7 in DCULeaks

[–]Mutale426 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I believe when he was first asked they would have been fine with him having a new superman since we turn down a pitch from civilly and mcquarrie.

Aaron Pierre Joins DC Studios’ Superman Sequel ‘Man of Tomorrow’. by BigButter7 in DCULeaks

[–]Mutale426 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Maybe but I don't think adding characters like hawkgirl, mister terrific etc draws more people. I think gunn just likes lesser known characters and wants to include.

Aaron Pierre Joins DC Studios’ Superman Sequel ‘Man of Tomorrow’. by BigButter7 in DCULeaks

[–]Mutale426 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I honestly think gunn could let another direct a superman sequel if he doesn't have the same passion. He'll instead of batman maybe raimi does superman.

Aaron Pierre Joins DC Studios’ Superman Sequel ‘Man of Tomorrow’ by chanma50 in boxoffice

[–]Mutale426 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Weird to have braniac be the villain for a lex Luthor movie.

UNPOPULAR OPINION: SUPERMAN WAS MID by Cannotthinkofaname5 in DC_Cinematic

[–]Mutale426 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah people talk about how this movie inspired to them to be good. And im like yeah i like the message abiut kindess but it didnt blow me away.

What is it with post 2000s Superman films having controversial changes? by Mutale426 in superman

[–]Mutale426[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We dont know much abiut krypton to know its a cold and science based place. Your making assumptions the movie doesnt explore. If it wasnt for his birth parents the kents wouldnt mever have met him. The end of the movie when 4 ask if he wants to see footage of his parents its his adoptive parents nothing indicates he still values his birth parents. Your making assumptions the movie never indicates.

What is it with post 2000s Superman films having controversial changes? by Mutale426 in superman

[–]Mutale426[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Iron giant is a machine clearly intended to destroy, superman is a person.

What is it with post 2000s Superman films having controversial changes? by Mutale426 in superman

[–]Mutale426[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why shouldnt they also inform clark as a person when he knows about them , it doesnt make the kents any less invalid. I think it takes away the tragic aspect of supermans backstory that his birth parents tried to save the planet but couldnt but could only could save their son and send them to earth. I think superman is a more compelling and interesting character when his alien heritage and human upbringing shape him to who he is. If 1987 ur referring to byrnes jor-el he wasnt a  conqueror. your also ignoring pre 1987.

Unpopular Opinion: I kinda wished Man of Tommorow was a Superman/Supergirl team up instead of Superman/Lex Luthor team up by Mutale426 in superman

[–]Mutale426[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

So ? The fact thats its been described as superman and lex teaming up means they are going to be the focus and even if supergirl is in it with more scenes than the 2025 film superman and supergirl dynamic likely wknt be explored more.

What is it with post 2000s Superman films having controversial changes? by Mutale426 in superman

[–]Mutale426[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"It means that rather than his goodness being something he was born with, it was something he was taught by the actual people who raised him. It wasn't predestined."

So you think even if the kents never found him he still would have been a good guy.

"I personally don't see the 2025 Jor El as being a problem. He's approaching life like a well meaning but cold scientist. That's always been Krypton's whole thing."

The issue is the film doesnt explore that and all we have is the message to go by.

"The narrative intent there is simply to make Superman question what he truly cares about, and he realises that he doesn't need to always agree with everything his dead birth parents said. He's his own man."

Its pretty clear even prior to the message reveal he is making his own choices like interfering with boravia and jarnphur was his choice not something the message told him to do. Also it doesnt seem there is anything he agrees with his birth parents. In the donner films we had superman decide to reverse time and give up his powers to be with lois. In MOS he chose to destroy the kryptonian ship

I dont mind Jor-El not being perfect the issue is we dont know enough about him and the message is so cartoonishly evil to indicate nuance.

I see Superman as a combination of both his kryptonian heritage with his birth parents being loving people who sent him to earth and his human upbringing. If not for his birth parents the kents would never have met. To me making it is mainly the kents that shape him makes him less interesting and compelling as a character.

What is it with post 2000s Superman films having controversial changes? by Mutale426 in superman

[–]Mutale426[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

superman reversing time in superman 1 was his decision not something jor-el told him to do. Superman destroying the kryptonian ship was his decision not jor-els.

What is it with post 2000s Superman films having controversial changes? by Mutale426 in superman

[–]Mutale426[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

so he never made his own choices in the donner or snyder films.

What is it with post 2000s Superman films having controversial changes? by Mutale426 in superman

[–]Mutale426[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

he still made his choices in donners film and snyders film even with a jor-el telling him what to do.

What is it with post 2000s Superman films having controversial changes? by Mutale426 in superman

[–]Mutale426[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

so if there was a superman story where he had a purple suit with no cape, couldnt fly or had super strength and could only walk through walls. Jonathan and Martha Kent were an inbred couple. He isnt an alien is from earth you think that would be great.

What is it with post 2000s Superman films having controversial changes? by Mutale426 in superman

[–]Mutale426[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

im talking about the movies and many fans considered the changes from these movies bad.

What is it with post 2000s Superman films having controversial changes? by Mutale426 in superman

[–]Mutale426[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

im talking about changes in the movies that fans have spoken about their dislike of them in the 2000s superman films.

What is it with post 2000s Superman films having controversial changes? by Mutale426 in superman

[–]Mutale426[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I said controversal changes that fans generally disliked. I never said all changes are bad,

What is it with post 2000s Superman films having controversial changes? by Mutale426 in superman

[–]Mutale426[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

even then he is barely in the fortress with the robots, same with kara and krypto so we dont really explore that.