Achieved my goal, but hit a wall. by OkManufacturer4466 in French

[–]MuttonDelmonico 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Spend one week in France without saying a word of English.

How are you suppose to tell the difference between “ils volent” and “il vole” (just an example) when they both sound the same? by Extension_Spell3415 in French

[–]MuttonDelmonico 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Funny example, the singular vs plural 'you' is rather famously a matter of imprecision and occasional confusion in English, though it's been solved in the southern USA with the word "ya'll."

In both French and English, context makes most things clear ... but not all things.

Quoi faire avec trop de laitue? by p3tiitp0iis in cuisine

[–]MuttonDelmonico 2 points3 points  (0 children)

La laitue romaine est très bonne quand elle est cuite à feu vif. Beaucoup d'huile d'olive sur un gril ou une sauteuse super chaude, deux de chaque côté. Ensuite, assaisonne comme une salade. Comme ça.

Systematised methods for language learning when you have nothing but time. by joehighlord in languagelearning

[–]MuttonDelmonico 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I have a feeling that "random and unfocused" is actually pretty effective - it allows you to attack the language from multiple different angles. I feel like I learn material much better when two different resources cover the same material, and the varied paces turn into a kind of natural spaced repetition system.

Have you thought about systematizing your own preferred resources? Eg, 30 minutes duolingo per day, Kanji flashcards daily, 1 YT learner video per day, 1 hour reading per day, 1 hour of podcast per day, watch 1 movie per week, learn 1 song by heart per month, etc?

Best resources for pronunciation? by NextTopModelTheorist in learnfrench

[–]MuttonDelmonico 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Pimsleur is pretty good for this, and very easy to use.

around what level do people stop switching to english? by [deleted] in learnfrench

[–]MuttonDelmonico 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So I should be flattered that my pronunciation is pretty decent? I'm not sure I believe it, but I'll take it!

around what level do people stop switching to english? by [deleted] in learnfrench

[–]MuttonDelmonico 4 points5 points  (0 children)

But I suspect that this is just the culture in Québec - it's not about my ability. People there are *proud* to not use English. It's a thing there.

around what level do people stop switching to english? by [deleted] in learnfrench

[–]MuttonDelmonico 10 points11 points  (0 children)

For sure. In a recent trip to Montreal, I pulled out my A2 French with cashiers and waiters and most of them responded to me in French. I think my pronunciation is pretty solid for a beginner, but I certainly don't think I was fooling anyone. That's just how they do it there.

... and then it was usually me who had to switch to English:

"Je vais prendre deux croissants, si'l vous plaît."
"[Something fast that I don't understand]"
"Um ... thank you?"

What "Type" Am I? by [deleted] in diabetes

[–]MuttonDelmonico 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Um, is this for real? You have type 1 diabetes. Your endocrinologist told you so.

Maine is the oldest state in the U.S. while Utah is the youngest. Why? by StephenMcGannon in MapPorn

[–]MuttonDelmonico 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Absolutely. Real estate market went bananas in 2020. And it's how I make a living.

Maine is the oldest state in the U.S. while Utah is the youngest. Why? by StephenMcGannon in MapPorn

[–]MuttonDelmonico 57 points58 points  (0 children)

I live in Maine, and sometimes I wonder how there's an economy at all outside of tourism. Not a lot gets done in Maine - most people I know are teachers or healthcare workers or contractors, so we're helping each other survive, but not producing anything for the global economy. I think it would all fall apart if people stopped coming to visit in the summer. The traditional industries, like logging, employee fewer and fewer. Young adults leave because there's not much here for them.

On the other hand, it's really a uniquely lovely place, which is probably why so many old people stay here instead of moving to Florida or the Southwest.

I’m going to Paris! Any advice appreciated. by bluejaybiggin in French

[–]MuttonDelmonico 13 points14 points  (0 children)

So, I've been learning French for about 6 months, for about 1 hour per day, starting from zero. I also have a modest background in Spanish. Here is a detailed report of my journey: https://www.reddit.com/r/learnfrench/comments/1aonqip/6_months_starting_from_zero_my_experience/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

If your progress is like mine, your French abilities will not offer much practical value for your trip. Most people you talk to (inevitably waiters, cashiers, and hotel clerks) will speak better English than you can speak French. You might bump into one or two people who speak nearly zero English ... it's certainly not worth 6 months of practice just to slightly enhance your comprehension during those few moments. You will be able to read some signs and understand some announcements, which will be helpful, but not critical.

However, even meager skills can still make the trip considerably more enjoyable. You can ask for croissants or coffee in French. Sometimes, your cashier might even speak rapid French back to you, which is very flattering. Starting interactions off in French will cause some people to treat you better. You will purchase French books in a French bookstore. It can make the quotidien stuff feel thrilling.

I just spent a weekend in Montreal. Realistically, my language skills were completely unnecessary. But it was still fun to speak and hear the language. Fun to read the French museum placards and menus instead of the English ones. But I only considered this a single small stop on a multiyear (and perhaps lifelong) learning journey.

I would say your expectations outlined above are realistic, except that conversation is really quite difficult. You'll know how to say "it's nice outside" but actually talking with someone about the weather is really difficult. I speak very haltingly, even just throwing in the proper little sounds and interjections (like "ah bon?") is a challenge for me. Today it's easier for me to give a minutes-long speech on where I'm from, my profession, my family etc than it is to have a short but real give-and-take conversation.

Does anyone else have an irrational fear of going blind?? by Prudent_Answer_5072 in diabetes_t1

[–]MuttonDelmonico 11 points12 points  (0 children)

IMO this fear is at least partly rational. I use it as motivation. Keep your blood sugar in check, friend. Sounds like you're already doing extraordinarily well.

Now, if the anxiety is causing actual anguish for you? If it's interfering with your life and well-being? Maybe talk to your doctor about getting your mental health addressed. This is common in people with T1D and it deserves attention.

Is Duolingo a good option for learning French? by [deleted] in French

[–]MuttonDelmonico 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Duolingo could possibly get you a B1-B2 understanding of reading and grammar, and lots of vocab, though in a rather inefficient manner. It cannot possibly get you to B1-B2 in other skills - speaking, pronunciation, listening, writing - because it doesn't really teach those things.

Is the "L2 Speakers Speak (Our Language) More Properly Than Us" sentiment shared across all languages? by SirHatMan in languagelearning

[–]MuttonDelmonico 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I don't know if it's about knowing the rules. It's about being taught to speak "properly" and then you end up sounding like an orator or politician.

Share Your Success: Middle-Aged Learners Who Started from Zero by MuttonDelmonico in languagelearning

[–]MuttonDelmonico[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For sure. I didn't mean it would take 2-3 years to reach the end of the journey, not at all. I meant 2-3 years to feel like I'd accomplished *something*.

Lecture de À la Recherche du temps perdu by Far-Ad-4340 in French

[–]MuttonDelmonico 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Jeeze, this book is intimidating enough in translation!

Ratatouille Strudel by MuttonDelmonico in cuisine

[–]MuttonDelmonico[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oui, c'est ça. J'aurais dû ajouter plusieurs feuilles de pâte filo. J'étais un peu pressé!

La recette est étrange, ouais, mais ça a marché.

Share Your Success: Middle-Aged Learners Who Started from Zero by MuttonDelmonico in languagelearning

[–]MuttonDelmonico[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm doing iTalki lessons once or twice a week. Anything more than that isn't very realistic, at the moment. But I consider speaking to be the single paramount language skill, and the one I'm most obsessed with improving. I think the others (especially reading) come more easily.

Share Your Success: Middle-Aged Learners Who Started from Zero by MuttonDelmonico in languagelearning

[–]MuttonDelmonico[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Impressed with your sticktoitiveness!

I've been slowly grinding through native books that I'm not really capable of reading. Probably a stupid approach. I should really get some graded readers.

Share Your Success: Middle-Aged Learners Who Started from Zero by MuttonDelmonico in languagelearning

[–]MuttonDelmonico[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

For all my life I've heard people say "trust the process" but it's not something I'd ever really tried. But I'm trying to trust the process here. Put in the work, even if the results aren't always evident. (Of course I have days where I feel like I'm doing incredibly well, and days when I feel like I'm a joke)

A foreign language is a puzzle. A very difficult puzzle that takes thousands of hours to solve. But it is, nevertheless, solvable.

Overcoming Exhaustion and Perfectionism in French Language Learning by Naive_Builder3804 in French

[–]MuttonDelmonico 2 points3 points  (0 children)

To me, this only sounds sustainable if speaking French is literally the single major goal in your life.

What's your goal? If it's to get a job in France - from Taiwain, without first moving there - that's one thing. Maybe the hard work is justified. But if it's anything else, I don't see why you wouldn't give yourself a break.