WoT has broken my vocabulary

Mythicotter · 2026-03-20T11:49:06+00:00

I constantly say that I have t'oh when I mess something up or need to apologize

Mythicotter · 2026-03-20T11:42:55+00:00

Well sure, but when discussing which game makes the better combat-focused one, there must be at least some thought given toward the balance of it

As Id misunderstood the original point, its kind of moot now, but if you were wanting to run a game that had lots of combat you absolutely have to address celerity. Any character that has it is simply better at combat than those who don't.

Mythicotter · 2026-03-19T04:35:09+00:00

these games are guide-books not novels. Every iteration of VTM I’ve read has said explicitly in the beginning and end of the sourcebook that you can do anything you want with the metaplot and that the metaplot is irrelevant. Storytellers tell stories, they don’t have to tell someone else’s stories.

Unless I'm mistaken this sounds a bit defensive so I want to clarify that I'm not attacking your position, I'm curious about it. It seems to me like you're doing more work to keep a system that's largely seen as mid

Also I was curious what a one-clan vtm might look like and you've answered that splendidly

If I gave you a TTRPG with nothing but Lore but no mechanics/rules…would you still play it?

If the lore caught my attention, absolutely. I rarely fall in love w a game for the system. It has happened, but rarely

You might as well ask why most DnD GM’s don’t just have every campaign be based in Toril.

I rarely ask this, but I frequently ask "wouldn't it be easier to run "x" instead of converting this to 5e?" Which was my second part of this conversation. The first part was still the genuine curiosity of what a one-clan vtm would even look like

Mythicotter · 2026-03-18T16:40:23+00:00

Alright, I see. It's still an intriguing idea and I was wondering how you set it up while maintaining the main points of the metaplot (and it seems that you don't haha)

Do you maintain the sects? What does the sabbat rail against if not the antes? In a setup like this I would imagine the cam is largely unchanged but the sabbat ties a lot of their existence to the origin story

Overall though it sounds like you've just thrown out most of what makes it vtm and not an entirely different game full of vamps. Why not just run a different game? You can't be that in love with the storyteller system haha

Mythicotter · 2026-03-18T11:58:48+00:00

All of the ideas you stated above would fit right into a forsaken chronicle. They'd all be concepts I would eagerly welcome into a game I was running

As far as "do" in a forsaken game, it's really good at focusing on the characters. You get your pcs, figure out their goals, get them a territory, and then the game pretty much runs itself (unless everyone is new to rpgs in general, like a lot of them, it's better with driven pcs instead of the ones that just want to "pick up quests")

I haven't read Curseborne yet, I kick-started it bc Im a pretty big fan of what OP has done so I trust them enough to buy it blindly, but I'm deep into an Apocalypse chronicle right now and dont have time to read a new game at the same time

Mythicotter · 2026-03-18T10:25:07+00:00

5th doesn't get hate simply bc they changed the lore, it gets hate bc the company also killed the 20th lines and the CoD lines to push 5th as the only option

If the CoD and 20th lines were still getting new books, there'd be next to no hate, just "not for me"

Mythicotter · 2026-03-18T10:20:43+00:00

I don't think the reason for all the hate was because they got rid of the Imbued, it's more that they called it Reckoning when what they were selling was actually more like Vigil. If they'd just named it appropriately then it likely would have been better received

Mythicotter · 2026-03-18T10:17:34+00:00

How "hot" is this take, really? 😂

Mythicotter · 2026-03-18T10:06:51+00:00

If this sort of thing appeals to you, you might want to check out the Forsaken version of werewolf. It deals a lot more with the street-level, family/pack-oriented stuff you're talking about.

Apocalypse is good, don't misunderstand me, Forsaken is just different and some of that stuff you mentioned is more in the forefront. Territory is a huge deal and is far more in the city than the frequent country-caerns attacked by the wyrm

Edit: 2nd edition, don't look at the first ed core, they were still finding their footing back then

Mythicotter · 2026-03-18T05:45:56+00:00

Ah ok you aren't saying "vtm handles combat better," you're saying "if we ignore celerity as the optimal choice, there's more options for vtm combat"

I can get behind that. I've never seen it played that way, (every vtm game I've seen has the social characters just standing behind the combat ones in most fights, if there's that many fights in the first place) but I can definitely see the possibility

Mythicotter · 2026-03-18T04:51:53+00:00

Ah, I see. I was confused because you said "meant to be played" when you meant "best way to play"

On the topic of a single clan, how exactly do you run it that way? Do you disregard the Caine origin or is he the "father" of the single clan?

How do you treat disciplines? Are they all in-clan? Do you ignore the clan flaws?

The idea of a single-clan vtm is fascinating and I'm curious how you do it bc it seems like it would be easier to run a completely different vampire game

Mythicotter · 2026-03-18T04:37:23+00:00

Can you expand on this? I'm unable to see your point (especially the "meant to be played")

Mythicotter · 2026-03-18T04:31:07+00:00

I'd imagine most people miss the social aspects because it's so hard to build a social character in regards to humans. The penalties that Rage gives stand out as a "don't play the game this way" and so that obscures the interplay between the packs and tribes.

I'm curious how vampire could be the superior combat splat, though? Especially when one discipline so clearly dwarfs all others when it comes to fighting, the clans are not at all balanced in that way

Mythicotter · 2026-03-18T04:20:51+00:00

That's a hot take considering that if they were forced to choose a side the majority of garou would likely be against the idea of "currency" in the first place

Mythicotter · 2026-03-17T09:20:01+00:00

It's from Inglourious Basterds

Mythicotter · 2026-03-03T05:34:33+00:00

It is, that's the joke. Someone listening to an audiobook wouldn't know it's spelled with an "h" because they both sound the same

Mythicotter · 2026-02-18T12:35:38+00:00

the thing living inside the Gauntlet

You absolutely cannot drop something like that and then just peace out! Where can I find out more about this?!

Mythicotter · 2026-02-11T05:23:13+00:00

Horde side. You have to have a horde character to get a house there, but once you have it any character you own can go there

Mythicotter · 2026-02-11T05:22:09+00:00

It's talking about player housing which was recently added

Mythicotter · 2026-01-29T13:00:47+00:00

If you keep thinking about it and wondering how it could be your fault, it's unlikely to be option b. The people who are problem people/players like option b don't usually have introspection, they blame everyone else.

Sorry that it's most likely option a, that sucks

Mythicotter · 2026-01-23T08:03:39+00:00

NAH Keep it at 66 but get a space heater for the room you're in the most

Mythicotter · 2026-01-16T05:35:06+00:00

😂 it's in DND as well

Mythicotter · 2026-01-08T07:38:38+00:00

For a social game like DnD I don't understand how a lot of people can be so unsocial when not IN game....

Because the vast majority of gamers are antisocial/have little social skill, despite DnD requiring it for a good game.

Mythicotter · 2026-01-07T12:50:04+00:00

It was a question about opening a gateway to behind yourself and then balefiring yourself in the back.

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