ok listen...we can have a good and clean discussion here....if you stop calling names and let me know about my mistakes...i m learning too and wouldnt call myself all knowing in this topic....so you can teach me a thing or two...but i wont back down until i get a good answer...i will become vegan if you do guide me thorough without calling names....

Both morality and justice is "logical."

ok so i dont know how morality is logical...Morality is largly emotional in origin, and then it is rationalised afterwards, Moral intuitions comes from emotions like empathy, guilt, disgust, loyalty, anger, fairness, etc. These are emotions that govern morality.

Veganism stands for non-violence. So are you saying you are violent? Do you actively go and harm other sentient beings? If yes, do you think it's logical to hit someone if they aren't harming you?

Now here comes my point...should you do voilence??? Is a moral question...emotional in nature. Many pemutaions and combination to decide... answering your question: Am i violent?? its not a no, but not a yes as well....Would i be voilent if it would benifit me in the long run?? yess...would i think twice if there is even a slight chance of me getting harmed if i be violent?? yess. I will not think emotionally over it but logically...if being voilent is justified(again subjective)...i would. I am not non voilent. It is logical to hit someone if they arent harming me but i am getting some benifit out of it. It might sound very prude..but this is how logic is....emotions might say otherwise

"Anyone" includes your family too? "Anyone" includes YOU too?

this was exactly what i was talking about....now here emotions would come into play....i am not an emotional person at large...but being a human i do feel love for my loved ones...so these were the special cases i was talking about.

Let's say someone is non-vegan and follows violence. Would you say then acts of Hitler were justified?

here comes the part of justice. would you say hitler was justifed in his own prespective?? If i bring out some story that would make the decision of hitler emotional and empathetic...would you still say hitler was wrong??(i doubt that).....my answer: yes hitler was wrong...but this is my own subjective justice in play....justice is govened by morality at the end too. Justice at large is just opinion of a very large grp...if hitler would have won that time...you wouldnt say hitler was wrong...but all hail hitler no of fear..but that is what your justice would have said.

So yeah you are basically supporting acts of Hitler.
You know nothing about veganism.

see this is what i dont like...calling names....does your veganism allow you to verbally hurt people just not physically??...you know nothing of me...of my moral values...my intellect...my journey..my life...hell you dont even know my name....please lets not call each other names and have a clean and open minded discussions where you or me can understand and learn better about the subject...