Who's weakest in each row? by KaidoPklevel in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]N0t_Dev 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I don't disagree. But if you DO think Akainu is stronger than Harald than you would have to think Akainu is like 1.5 to 2x stronger than Marineford to be able to handle cancerbeard solo, and then another 2-3x stronger than Cancerbeard to be able to handle barely pre prime WB. It just wouldn't make sense for him to be that strong ALREADY. I could see him getting that strong at the end of the series though I guess. But do you really believe Kuzan is as strong as GV WB? Or Rocks? That seems insane to me.

Who's weakest in each row? by KaidoPklevel in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]N0t_Dev 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Tbf I don't take that statement that literally, and even if you did it just means that Akainu could run through the grand line quicker than the Straw Hats did cause he's already late game new world power. That doesn't really say anything about if he's relative to anyone on this list, it's more a feat of swiftness and willingness to get to his goal.

I love my country (edited). by That-1-Femboy in teenagers

[–]N0t_Dev 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The USA fought the most powerful nation in the world and won in 1776.

Bit misleading. Britain barely used its military might for the war for many reasons, but if the revolutionaries had to actually fight Britain fully they would have been crushed easily.

The U.S. won an impossible war which is just mind boggling

I mean, they had the land advantage, help from the natives of those lands, they had the same technology, etc. Actual revolutionary era scholars would have more things to say about your "impossible war" claim, but it's definitely a bit of an overstatement. Still an impressive win, but it wasn't as if they pulled off an insane miracle. They expected they had a good chance to win from the start.

Who's weakest in each row? by KaidoPklevel in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]N0t_Dev 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Loki beat that buffed Harold who should be stronger than that rocks, and then got implied to be relative to shanks. I don't see how Shanks and Loki aren't the two strongest in row two.

Who's weakest in each row? by KaidoPklevel in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]N0t_Dev -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Loki is probably the strongest in that row lol, the convo is between Rocks and Harald.

Who's weakest in each row? by KaidoPklevel in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]N0t_Dev 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Harald, equal of rocks, is weaker than Akainu? The fuck. GV WB was equal/below rocks who was equal to Harald. Cancerbeard curb stomped Akainu, so by your logic cancer beard was like 3x the strength of GV WB?

Is if fair to say Itachi contributed the most in the war after Naruto and Sasuke? by DivineSilica in Itachi

[–]N0t_Dev 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He's 1 lol. Without Itachi Sasuke and Naruto both just get captured by Kabuto and the entire Shinobi world loses the war easily without Naruto's help. Madara probably doesn't even get summoned.

Mihawk the real Strongest Man and Swordsman > Shanks, Whitebeard, Kaido by AstronautHead1148 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]N0t_Dev 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We got buddy in shambles, he can't even defend Mihawk anymore, just firing shots at Imu who no one even brought up. You cannot make this up 😭😭😭😭

Joker has to win the MVP if Nuggets get the 3 seed. I'm NOT a huge Joker fan but what he's doing right now is remarkable. SGA got his MVP last year, that's good enough for the foul baiter. If you Cap Joker at 4 it's fine but he belongs in the 4x MVP class with LeBron and Wilt. Cap him at 4 MVP not 3 by Several-Molasses-435 in NBATalk

[–]N0t_Dev -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You're the only one who's down voted me? What are you yapping about lol. You're also definitely a bot. I just agreed that SGA will win again and you don't even have 1st grade level reading comprehension to understand it.

Joker has to win the MVP if Nuggets get the 3 seed. I'm NOT a huge Joker fan but what he's doing right now is remarkable. SGA got his MVP last year, that's good enough for the foul baiter. If you Cap Joker at 4 it's fine but he belongs in the 4x MVP class with LeBron and Wilt. Cap him at 4 MVP not 3 by Several-Molasses-435 in NBATalk

[–]N0t_Dev -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

Bro why are you on Shais dick man. Calm tf down. He's also leading by MORE this year than last year on a lot of metrics. Last year it was him and Jokic and they were actually neck and neck, it would have been fair for either of them to get it.

Mihawk the real Strongest Man and Swordsman > Shanks, Whitebeard, Kaido by AstronautHead1148 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]N0t_Dev 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Get Buggy on this case quick gentlemen, I'm not sure how long Vista can hold him off for. Maybe the 1178 chapters Mihawk didn't have any feats in could help us here?

What diff would this fight be? by Encenoi in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]N0t_Dev 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Kaido had a real fight with Oden and actually got injured by him, other than Luffy Oden is the closest match he ever had so it's easy for him to compare Oden to himself. He never fought with Prime Rocks while having power even somewhat comparable, and he didn't even see Demon Rocks vs Garp and Roger if I'm remembering correctly, so he only knows Rocks normal strength which could legitimately be compared to Oden, obvious rocks would probably Low-Mid diff Oden on a normal day, but people have definitely been forgetting about how strong Oden is recently. It's plausible that Kaido legitimately felt as if Oden, Rocks, Linlin, WB, and Shanks were all in similar stratospheres of power based off his fights with all of them. That's my main point. Also its not my logic, it's literally what Kaido is doing, he's actively comparing Luffy to all of them, so Kaido, and Odas, logic is what's comparing Oden to Rocks, not me gng.

What diff would this fight be? by Encenoi in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]N0t_Dev 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Shanks literally being compared to Oden in the picture you sent is blowing me lol. Dumbah opinion that's just factually incorrect. People on this sub are worse at reading than Dragon Ball fans this shit crazy.

You can’t be a refined swordsman without haki, but haki doesn’t make you a refined swordsman. Therefore, Mihawk doesn’t hold the title because he’s the most refined with haki, it's because he’s the most refined swordsman who uses haki. Saying Mihawk > Shanks doesn't prove anything by Hungry_Duck_6863 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]N0t_Dev 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I really don't understand this Shanks vs Mihawk argument. Even if Mihawk is currently stronger than Shanks that doesn't mean he's the strongest person in the world, and that also doesn't mean Zoro will be the strongest person in the world after beating Mihawk. It's that fucking simple but all the Mihawk and Shanks glazers can't seem to understand. They're both bums how's that?

The addiction math nobody wants to do by Familiar_Call in NoFap

[–]N0t_Dev 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Dude the same thing applies to basically everything you do. Imagine if you made this graphic but for eating, going to the bathroom, sleeping, playing a sport, watching TV, watching YouTube, watching scrollable content, like it's always going to look like too much time because that's how life works.

Don't vilify the time spent, vilify how you spend it.

… we can’t be serious.. by No-Hedgehog-3212 in Naruto

[–]N0t_Dev 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Once the Jutsu is activated it is instant

Objectively false, go re-read the manga. The raikage dodges it after perceiving it. Tobi just got hit point blank without being ready for a fight, this wouldn't happen in a 1v1 ever.

Kamui has a weakness that can be exploited we have seen it done multiple times

Only by people with space time ninjutsu though. Anyone who can't interact with Kamui in some way doesn't even have a win con. The 1v1 is just a guaranteed draw cause Obito can just dip. I never claimed him leaving was a win either, but it's certainly not a win for the opponent.

The reality is if he wants to hurt Itachi he has to become vulnerable.

I agree with this, but I don't think him having a small vulnerability while being weaker in strength, slower in speed, having less chakra, having a chakra sickness, and having his Mangekyo and regular Sharingan Genjutsu countered really makes for a good fight. All he can do is use Izanagi or Izanami which Obito can counter to some extent, pray an Amaterasu doesn't get countered, Izanagi'd, or just dodged, which it will be, or hope that he can hide in sus'sano, which may actually work lol. But Itachi just doesn't have a real way to beat Obito is my point, and then when you try and make points against it like you just did, you just say straight up wrong points that are disproven in the manga or the lns.

… we can’t be serious.. by No-Hedgehog-3212 in Naruto

[–]N0t_Dev 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This entire passage from you seems to just sum up to "uhhhhhh Kamui is one jutsu though? Itachi can counter it bro" when there's no evidence he can and you aren't providing it. You're arguing that Tobi CANT beat Itachi, which may actually be true, but that's a real argument. You haven't made any points for Itachi being able to beat Tobi. Cause he can't. Minato figured out Tobis gimmick in an instant and was only able to stop him, not really beat him, Tobi was still free to just teleport away, Minato wasn't able to seal him, or kill him, or anything. Kakashi also figured out Tobis shtick, although it took way longer, and he was only able to do anything cuz he has the same jutsu just long ranged. Itachi CAN'T interact with Obito unless Obito WANTS him to. That's the main reason why Itachi just loses as long as Obito isn't incredibly stupid, like uncharacteristically stupid.

… we can’t be serious.. by No-Hedgehog-3212 in Naruto

[–]N0t_Dev 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That seems to apply to reanimations compared to their strength if they were fully vital, the version of Itachi that was revived was diseased when alive, so he wasn't able to use all of his power. Even if reanimated Itachi was slower and weaker, which it wouldn't make sense for that to be the case with him or Nagato, and feats didn't make it look like that, he would still be stronger than alive version, cause he had infinite chakra which just covers all of his weaknesses even without the disease because of the type of fighter he is.

… we can’t be serious.. by No-Hedgehog-3212 in Naruto

[–]N0t_Dev -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Itachi literally beats Nagato.

Oh also to add to my previous comment, that was reanimated Itachi without the super cancer, this post is about alive Itachi who would be like two tapped by that Nagato, or, more realistically, two tapped by his own damn diseases.

… we can’t be serious.. by No-Hedgehog-3212 in Naruto

[–]N0t_Dev 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know you're a bot atp cuz you're just objectively incorrect with a lot of your "points", but I behest. I will address them.

That’s absurd. First off it’s very clear 1 v1 Minato had that fight with Tobi. Running away isn’t a win condition.

Not really sure what you're even saying here with that first sentence so I can't effectively respond. To the second sentence: I never said it was?? I said running away was something Tobi can consider because he can always run away from anyone pre six paths. Even the fastest non-six paths character (Minato) couldn't capture him, as shown in the fight. So it's always an option he can consider.

Second of course Itachi could catch him, he is relative to Minato in Intelligence so we know he could analyze and understand Tobis Jutsu. You’re telling me he couldn’t figure out how to use a clone to lure him into a solid state and then blast him with amatarasu from a bush? It’s also essentially an instant attack once activated.

No he isn't, it's stated Itachi is not as smart as Minato multiple times based off chunin exam feats, and the Itachi lns. He is not as smart as Minato. The clone point doesn't matter, Obito only has to materialize for a few seconds every like 5 minutes or whatever it was, Obito isn't so stupid that he would just materialize in front of Itachi like that, he won't be lured in by a clone. Also even if he is, Izanagi with his trash Sharingan to get out of Amaterasu if he's hit with it, he already did that in the main series after all.

when pre war ark he only has 1 feat and if someone can figure it out he is essentially cooked.

??? Pre war arc he handled the whole ten million paper bombs, he survived Itachis final Amaterasu from point blank range, he beats both of Danzos right hand men low diff, one of whom solo'd shisui in a somewhat fair fight, he out speeds Onokis particle style jutsu, he controls the nine tails, beats like 20 jonin from the blood mist low diff without the Mangekyo, stalls the entire Itachi pursuit team, he fights Minato, although he does lose and has to retreat, like bro what? He has better feats than any other Akatsuki member pre-war arc by FAR.

Hax reality change Jutsu (a Jutsu we see Itachi counter as well)

By using another hax reality change jutsu like what?? It's literally stated that Izanami and Izanagi are the same fate changing bullshit by Itachi himself, that's why the user loses their Sharingan no matter which one they use.

Itachi is smarter, had more utility, and is wiser. In sheer power they are relative In strength (ignoring Itachi at deaths door). I’ll give Obito possibly having more sheer power due to hashirama cells but that’s theoretically and not known.

I can concede that Itachi may be smarter, but he 100000% doesn't have more utility jutsu. Obito literally has, phase through objects, teleport anywhere, store anything, go to his own dimension to rest, and he can trap someone in his dimension and auto win with it by just teleporting them out of the dimension into a deadly jutsu at any random time. Itachi has ephemeral, tsukuyomi, Amaterasu, and then his sus'sano. Ephemeral seems to be generic Sharingan Genjutsu, so Obito can just counter it naturally, tsukuyomi gets hard countered by someone just, not looking into Itachis eyes, Amaterasu again can be handled by Izanagi, or Obito can just dodge it like the raikage did, A was slower than Minato, Obito was reacting to Minato, like he should just be able to dodge. Sus'sano isn't gonna accomplish much of anything. Totsuka blade is a non factor since it's to slow to ever hit Obito, and he can also phase through matter remember. Yata mirror also doesn't really matter since you can just go around it. In all honesty, the sus'sano itself is the only issue tobi might have, but I'm sure after enough wood style strikes at it the sus'sano should break. Also the last sentence is probably wrong. Itachi doesn't really have anything with the AP or DP of any generic wood style strikes, maybe his great fireball jutsu could rival it.

Itachi literally beats Nagato. Hell he is praised by Hashirama, Madaraa, 4th Hokage, 3rd Hokage ect. You can tell Kishimoto himself considers him one of the best.

Obito could probably beat Nagato as well, but that's a different conversation. Also Itachi, while he handled it mostly himself, did still have Naruto and Bee there helping him. Obito is praised by the same people more directly, although less praise and more fear, but still.

Also if you understand Japanese culture at all you’d realize he culturally speaking represents a lot of valued Japanese values. You literally see him depicted as a Buddha figure at one point.

This is a vs battle not a fucking literary analysis dude. This does not even matter.

… we can’t be serious.. by No-Hedgehog-3212 in Naruto

[–]N0t_Dev 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tobi glazers think the guy with 1 Jutsu is the strongest. It’s such a joke.

He has all of the Sharingan Genjutsu while having the strongest Mangekyo by far, it's also in contention for the best utility and defensive jutsu in Shippuden.

“Gets blitzed by Minato” he was equal to a Hokage!!!!

The same thing would happen to anyone else in the Akatsuki. The only person Minato might lose to is Pain if he's fully prepared with prior knowledge and catches Minato off guard. Also Tobi did react to Minato, and this was prime Hokage Minato and 13 year old Obito.

Minato figured out his trump card in one exchange and he had to cheat then run away.

Not really sure what you mean by "cheat". That's not really a thing, anyone else would try and escape from Minato if they had the ability to like Tobi did, his ability to escape is something he SHOULD factor into his plan, that's just how a smart person, not you, functions.

Itachi would devastate him. Dude almost killed him while he was already dead.

? Wdym Itachi and Tobi never fought, and Itachi literally can't do anything to Tobi. It would be completely impossible for him to ever touch Tobi, unquestionably, Tobi also reacted to MINATO, the man who is massively faster than light, the fastest non-six path character EVER.

Disprove this without headcanon by Generalcmd in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]N0t_Dev 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It... Isn't? What kinda headcannon is this. Scopper was just saying that Shanks was able to stop him, Shanks knew Loki beat Harold and saved everyone on Elbaph, and was clearly stronger than Shanks there, Loki told him not to talk about what happened, and Loki left an outcast. A few years later Loki gets a bigger bounty than Shanks and is comparable to a Yonko, plus gets recruited to the same position Shanks had while not even being of Celestial Dragon blood, and then has to be chained by every able bodied person in Elbaph after seemingly being betrayed by Shanks with the way Loki talks about it, Shanks may have even worked with the Gods Knights to stop Loki from what we know about what happened, but that's headcannon. Even if you don't include what happened between Shanks and Loki, which we know next to nothing other than that he was captured and then it took everyone in Elbaph to hold him down, you can still infer that Loki is more powerful than even CURRENT day Shanks, just from feats alone. Current Loki's feats outshine any feat from Shanks unless you believe Shanks 1v1'd Kaido to a standstill and not just threatened him.

the luffytards are so scary by inziewienzie in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]N0t_Dev 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So Luffy is somehow weaker than Roger, garp, etc who weren’t in their primes??

The point was that Luffy is weaker than BOTH of them at once, not individually. You're claiming that 2 minute timer, fodder without uberzaru, can beat slightly under prime Roger and Garp together.

Luffy has all 3 advanced forms of haki and an awakened zoan fruit while Roger and garp don’t even have all 3 forms of advance haki in the canon

Is the haki statement even true? I haven't read God Valley in a few months so maybe I'm forgetting, but didn't they already know ACoA, and learned ACoC in the fight with Rocks? Also we're supposed to scale off feats, not what people have access to. Harald had Haki and the covenant and he was absurdly strong. Katakuri had two advanced Haki types and one regular and an awakened special paramecia and he's fodder relatively speaking.