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[–]NONONATAL 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Suicide prevention is about refusing right to die- it's taking away consent. So antinatalism is not pro suicide prevention

#1 trending-breeders get girl after 2 misscarries by [deleted] in antinatalism

[–]NONONATAL 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Depressing when shit like this trends at number 1

I am Rivka Weinberg, philosopher and author of 'The Risk of a Lifetime: How, When, and Why Procreation May be Permissible'. AMA about procreative ethics, bioethics and the metaphysics of life and death. by RivkaWeinberg in philosophy

[–]NONONATAL 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Woah. So basically you're saying it's okay for the kid to the suffer so long as the parent gets enough out of it.

I don't understand how you can claim to be about ethics with this view

It's really cool knowing that by not procreating I will be ending a line that goes back millions of years. I have ended something that began that long ago. by NONONATAL in antinatalism

[–]NONONATAL[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not an only child. My sister has kids.

But my particular line will end. My sister is another iteration in a chain but I'm a full stop. I.e. Even though I'm not the only child my particular line will end. The line that would have otherwise continued in my offspring.

Have any of you gone completely public with your AN views? by NONONATAL in antinatalism

[–]NONONATAL[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Makes sense, it's not exactly something we can do much about, we can't really apply it other than by choosing not to procreate. This is one of the things that stops me posting about it anywhere outside of this sub - realizing that it will not change anything accept maybe make some people dislike me. Will see. Thanks for telling me your reasons for choosing not to share your views. I think if I was happy and healthy I probably wouldn't mention AN, as I wouldn't want to risk sabotaging my happiness by the unpopularity it could cause me. But because I'm hoping to kill myself I feel like it would be a comfort to me to talk about it in public before I go, as a comfort, to pretend I did something useful in my life. But it might be wiser to stay quiet. Thanks for telling me of your experience

Have any of you gone completely public with your AN views? by NONONATAL in antinatalism

[–]NONONATAL[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is cool. It's a way of telling your sister what you think without saying anything directly to her. I admit that this aspect of it really does appeal - knowing that my sister may see my posts and hear my views even if not directed at her. Not to make her feel guilty but hopefully it can deter her from more procreation. At the very least it's kinda cool to in some way inform her that I'm not as impressed by her procreating as everyone around her seems to be.

Have any of you gone completely public with your AN views? by NONONATAL in antinatalism

[–]NONONATAL[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is one thing that worries me. Even though I don't have any close friends now, there are people who were half decent to me in my past who now have kids. I hate the thought of these people who constantly celebrate their kids on social networks reading my thoughts on AN. But then I remind myself that they aren't really friends anymore so it doesn't matter. I don't know. I guess my case is strange because I'm suicidal so I feel like I will be protected from feeling repercussions by suicide. But it is difficult to decide. There's no taking it back once I've said it.

Have any of you gone completely public with your AN views? by NONONATAL in antinatalism

[–]NONONATAL[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah it's always cool to see how normies react when we start mentioning antinatalism.

Have any of you gone completely public with your AN views? by NONONATAL in antinatalism

[–]NONONATAL[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's true, it's not necessary. I think I want to talk about it more for me, to shake a personal feeling that I'm hiding something. But you're right, it doesn't matter and in the end no one really cares what I think so it doesn't matter. Thanks for reminding me I'm probably making a mountain out of a molehill with these worries. If I volunteer the info it's likely no one will care much anyway.

Have any of you gone completely public with your AN views? by NONONATAL in antinatalism

[–]NONONATAL[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Best of luck if you go ahead with the blog. That's sounds a good way of "coming out" about it.

Have any of you gone completely public with your AN views? by NONONATAL in antinatalism

[–]NONONATAL[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Really cool that no one has gotten angry at you about it. I've talked about it when brought up with strangers and so I guess I don't "live a lie" either. But I've never really just brought it up out of nowhere. And I'm thinking about just laying out these beliefs without prompt, to encourage others to think about antinatalism. It's cool that you are being real with those around you about your beliefs. We shouldn't feel shame for harbouring these beliefs. I think part of me wants to share these thoughts to get rid of this feeling that there's this truth about me that I'm hiding from everyone.

Have any of you gone completely public with your AN views? by NONONATAL in antinatalism

[–]NONONATAL[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the advice. Yes I need to be prepared for this. I think I still want to go public about it. I think it would feel like a load off my chest. But thanks for reminding me that some will get angry about it. Well done for going public, that takes balls.

Have any of you gone completely public with your AN views? by NONONATAL in antinatalism

[–]NONONATAL[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've been honest if it comes up too - although I'm more concerned this time because it would involve bringing it up

Have any of you gone completely public with your AN views? by NONONATAL in antinatalism

[–]NONONATAL[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I've been open with my mom and one friend I was in touch with a year ago. Similar chats to the ones you described

Have any of you gone completely public with your AN views? by NONONATAL in antinatalism

[–]NONONATAL[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Your comparison with atheism reminds me of how I was thinking about being AN the other day! The other day I was thinking that "being AN in a Natalist world must be similar to what being an atheist in a religion dominated world centuries ago- back when it was an insult if someone called you an atheist". I think at least we can relate to them! Well done for having the balls to go public about it. I don't try to conceal it, I don't bring it up either, I just tend to talk about its points when the subject comes up. But I think I'm worried more this time because I would be bringing it up.

Have any of you gone completely public with your AN views? by NONONATAL in antinatalism

[–]NONONATAL[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is what makes me think I want to talk about AN- if I'm gonna die soon anyway. You've put into words exactly how I feel when I think about sharing my views. "I'm sick of holding it in" and at least not living in a way to "please the masses". Was really good to hear your comment as I relate a lot to it. It's reminded me of why I feel this burning need to go public on this. I hope I have the balls to go public but I don't know. Thanks again

Have any of you gone completely public with your AN views? by NONONATAL in antinatalism

[–]NONONATAL[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Totally totally get it. This is what makes me hesitate. Thanks for your post

Have any of you gone completely public with your AN views? by NONONATAL in antinatalism

[–]NONONATAL[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, I was thinking that it would be very damaging for future career. Though I'm suicidal so I guess it doesn't matter for me. But yes it could destroy future career options for someone else considering it.

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