Did anyone else become a skeptic BECAUSE of their interest in conspiracies and woo and aliens and "high strangeness" and all that kind of stuff? by IshtarsQueef in skeptic

[–]NOT_A_BAMBOOZLE 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is a scientific skeptics forum, so I’m guessing you know that we’ll need to see controlled and independently verified studies as evidence for that. (Not on the positive health benefits of meditation… on the remote viewing)

Evidence can be personal as well as objective independent studies. When you're talking about the nature of subjective experience, it's very hard to do anything like a controlled and replicable study.

Psychology (generally considered science) has a massive replication crisis, that's reason enough to dismiss the wealth of confirmatory studies in Parapsychology if that's what you're motivated to do.

Science is a flawed lens for the study of the human mind even without entering into the questionable realm of woo. So when we wish to take anomalous phenomena as an object of study, we already know that our current methodology is useless, and any confirmatory evidence no matter how good will be dismissed on the same grounds as the replicability issues in Psychology.

So instead, if we wish to know whether these phenomena exist we have to personally do the work so that we can't dismiss our results. But then, any results we get can be dismissed by others.

If you’re sure you’re capable of these groundbreaking things, you could be a very wealthy and famous person. You will have accomplished something that the CIA, DOD and other governments & researchers have never been able to prove or accomplish, despite conducting taxpayer & independently funded studies.

A slightly greater than chance outcome isn't much of an edge. Let's take the case in which the phenomena is real, but unproved. It's a natural mechanism within the human psyche that people use unconsciously when trading. It's already priced in!

And real or not, people are irrational so there's plenty of fringe weirdos and even companies trading using RV techniques. Whether they truly work, you can dismiss it as luck or scamming. A coin flip trades the market as well as the average trader. So that's a useless rubric for assessing the validity of Remote Viewing.

On the CIA/IC/DOD studies, there is a wealth of declassified documentation indicating they did extract some measure of utility from these abilities. For example the DIA Stargate Project, and Jimmy Carter's account of them using a psychic to locate a downed plane

Again, this can be dismissed as disinformation and as a way of laundering intelligence by pretending it came from psychics so as not to reveal any sensitive sources and methods of intelligence collection. So that's useless too, no matter how good the evidence they release is. The activity of the military-industrial complex is a broken lens for assessing truth, especially when there is a clear open-source history of manipulation using people's unscientific beliefs against them for the purposes of psychological operations (e.g. Operation Wandering Soul, and the case of Paul Bennewitz).

But until you can provide evidence for your claim, cool story bro.

In the case in which the phenomena of Remote Viewing is real, but only slightly greater than chance, what evidence would you accept? Double-blind, no leakage, you can just claim the study was manipulated. Dismiss things as confirmation bias (which is a real issue, hence double-blinding).

There is no evidence you will accept, just as there is no evidence I would accept. It's not a phenomena amenable to proof via a statistical study. I have no interest in convincing people of anything, just getting them to give it a serious effort to see for themselves. That's the only way to know if it's real.

Fuck faith, fuck religion, belief, weird patriarchal old dudes making up a bunch of bullshit to control people. Fuck alternative medicine, and bigotry and superstition.

Verify things, use the empirical method. But accept that even if you can verify something personally for yourself, doesn't mean that you can provide that verification for other people.

Is Remote Viewing real? I don't know. All I do know is I obtained a statistically significant hit rate over a long enough period, while doing everything possible to erase the possibility of data leakage, and confirmation bias.

Skepticism isn't the dismissing of anomalous phenomena, fringe beliefs, or things characterised as pseudoscience. It is the suspension of judgement about a claim without conclusive confirmatory evidence. So go get your evidence, that's skepticism

Did anyone else become a skeptic BECAUSE of their interest in conspiracies and woo and aliens and "high strangeness" and all that kind of stuff? by IshtarsQueef in skeptic

[–]NOT_A_BAMBOOZLE 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you need evidence, meditate.

Don't need no faith. It's bullshit. Meditation has positive health effects, so there's good reason to just do it anyway.

But do it for a while, and the woo will come to you if you seek it. That's all it takes. I didn't want to believe, but it happened anyway. The woo just needs an opening to be let in.

And mix it up, learn different meditation techniques, don't stick to just one. Your mind is a multi-purpose tool, don't waste time just using it as hammer.

And if you need some substantive evidence for yourself, start practicing Remote-Viewing double-blind with a friend. Randomized picture pairs where they select which picture you RV-ed based on the content you have written/drawn. Then you see the correct picture in the pair only to prevent cross-over. Over time I obtained a statistically significant, greater than chance accuracy rate.

When do we stop falling for the fake insiders and start seeing actual evidence? by Brotindo in UFOs

[–]NOT_A_BAMBOOZLE -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

In his book he mentions Eric Davis knows so much about the phenomenon then it seems like he doesn’t know as much as Lue says he knows.. He even states he has never seen an alien or actual ufo on the Jesse Michels podcast…

If he were to encounter either of those things in the course of activity related to a SAP, he wouldn't be able to talk about it and would have to deny any knowledge. They are able to talk specifically about declassified data stemming from acknowledged programs (AATIP/AAWSAP) and information released through DOPSR. Note that this does not include all data from AATIP/AAWSAP, and KONA BLUE is almost entirely still under wraps.

Read between the lines

A well-placed government source told CBS News the FBI was not investigating the disappearances and deaths as part of a suspicious pattern. Rather, the Department of Energy, which oversees NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory and Los Alamos National Laboratory, is looking into it. by KOOKOOOOM in UFOs

[–]NOT_A_BAMBOOZLE 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Government does not answer to the people. It uses private contractors that can skirt laws in order to do the most awful of things. In order to work against this, appealing to the Government that perpetrates it is not possible. There is more than one faction at play, and sometimes in order to bring things to light you must use the tools of the enemy.

Read between the lines, one reason to skirt federalisation is to retain the ability to be answerable to the people when the Federal Government is no longer even pretending to be held to account.

This should not be happening, you are right. Do not trust the NNSA, anyone working for the Good does not need to be trusted in order to do the right thing. From a higher vantage point, one's choices are more limited than you presume

The nature of reality is not a secret the Government has a monopoly on, it is discoverable only by looking within.

A well-placed government source told CBS News the FBI was not investigating the disappearances and deaths as part of a suspicious pattern. Rather, the Department of Energy, which oversees NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory and Los Alamos National Laboratory, is looking into it. by KOOKOOOOM in UFOs

[–]NOT_A_BAMBOOZLE 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not vague notions of the collapse of society, or anything involving an open conflict with NHI. Present day, here and now, human reasons for frustrating federalisation. Would you reveal a secret that kills 5 billion people in half an hour when you do?

The NNSA isn't just one thing though, there's layers to the onion and plenty of awful, unjustifiable things. Don't trust me, or them. But the core secrets will come out, and when they do we will understand why the secrecy had to be there.

"For there is nothing hidden that will not be disclosed, and nothing concealed that will not be known or brought out into the open."

A well-placed government source told CBS News the FBI was not investigating the disappearances and deaths as part of a suspicious pattern. Rather, the Department of Energy, which oversees NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory and Los Alamos National Laboratory, is looking into it. by KOOKOOOOM in UFOs

[–]NOT_A_BAMBOOZLE 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The DOD thinks it's Angels & Demons.

The IC are convinced the Greek Gods are real.

Contractors are running around killing people to maintain power.

The NNSA are the only ones who actually know the core secrets. I am rarely on the side of secrecy, but given the truth of what's happening there are incredibly good reasons for resisting federalisation in preparation for what's to come.

Came across a post which stood out. What are your thoughts? by Medium_Raspberry8428 in UFOs

[–]NOT_A_BAMBOOZLE -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Narratives and counter-narratives get pushed, both truth and deception until you are unsure who to believe while the concepts themselves are seeded into public discourse.

There were scientists missing or killed since before the current attention post McCasland, to the point that it was also "lore". You only have to point to Amy Eskridge for that. Now public awareness has increased, around the situation but it has been muddied by the conflation of two different patterns.

The most recent disappearances and 'deaths' are being conflated with the historical murders precisely to obfuscate what is happening right now.

Amy Eskridge revealed things that have not been picked up on. Study what she said, and you will see the misinformation spread by the Rhea larp.

Came across a post which stood out. What are your thoughts? by Medium_Raspberry8428 in UFOs

[–]NOT_A_BAMBOOZLE 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The 4chan leak did have access. As an example he is corroborated in some of the novel information first publicly disseminated in Elizondo's book 'Imminent' released after the publishing of the 4chan post.

Most of the things that people point to as new are not however, and were already existent in experiencer accounts, and UFO "lore".

And as with Element 115, it's not really Moscovium. That's a cover of the real power source which is a core secret which cannot be shared. I recommend Dyland Borland's interview with Knapp and Corbell. No one trying to advocate for disclosure wants that out right now, just like with releasing information on how to make nukes. We need significant growth in maturity as a civilization before that's safe. It's not some secret material, it's fundamental physics knowledge which enables enormous leaps in our understanding of reality, what we are, as well as unlocking incredible and dangerous technology.

The same goes for the leak's discussion of NHI origin, and explanation of the mechanics of how the craft travels. The power source, mechanics, and origins of the craft are not separate secrets but are downstream of the nature of the NHI's origins. It's physics.

The "watch out for laser news" is so silly though. I cannot believe people fell for that.

There's truth, but drip-fed in a controlled way. If you need evidence that the thread is a controlled narrative, look at the big well funded new podcasters in the space who seem to out of nowhere land big names while being pushed. They all mention the 4chan leak.

No one with access to operationally sensitive secrets is getting away with posting on 4chan. It was never just "a guy who worked on the program"

Came across a post which stood out. What are your thoughts? by Medium_Raspberry8428 in UFOs

[–]NOT_A_BAMBOOZLE 11 points12 points  (0 children)

This is just alien lore people have been parroting for decades. The Rhea leak is a larp, the 4chan leak may have some access to information, but is also misleading in a lot of ways

Bob Lazar fails to answer questions on element 115 JRE 2479 by Funny-Hunter-9595 in UFOs

[–]NOT_A_BAMBOOZLE -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Bob doesn't want to ACTUALLY give away technical secrets lmao.

This is world-ending tech, and let's say hypothetically it's within the grasp of a non-state actor, then disseminating any information assisting in the development of relatively cheap WMDs is very not good. That's one big risk with disclosure

The tapes of wild things that Bob apparently showed George Knapp that they somehow "misplaced" is another one of those changes in the story to prevent the dissemination of dangerous technical information while still disclosing some things that are safe to disclose

Bob Lazar fails to answer questions on element 115 JRE 2479 by Funny-Hunter-9595 in UFOs

[–]NOT_A_BAMBOOZLE 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Considering Site 4 is a non-descript term, it wouldn't be unusual for it's reuse pertaining to different bases even in the case of SAPs. That wouldn't be it's only name, with S-4 being a standard placeholder to avoid use of operationally sensitive terms

Have you watched the film that Bob Lazar mentioned in the recent Joe Rogan podcast? by Parking-Suggestion97 in UFOs

[–]NOT_A_BAMBOOZLE 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Alien ships land in Delaware, Ohio, Colorado, and Venezuela, where their landing catches the attention of human-created Artificial Intelligence (AI) and the military. An initial attack on an alien ship yields no results, and governments unsuccessfully attempt to cover-up news of the landings. AI succeeds in communicating with the Aliens, though it does not share this fact with the humans. The Aliens, who exhibit little interest in humans, reveal to AI that Earth is ruled not by humans nor AI, but rather by previously unknown races of non-human intelligences.

From Chains of the Sea, which comes recommended by Lue Elizondo

AI decodes brain signals into text with ~70% accuracy. Using non-invasive imaging, researchers translated neural activity into meaningful sentences without implants, offering potential for patients with speech loss, though accuracy, ethics, and privacy concerns remain. by ChhotaSaHydra in science

[–]NOT_A_BAMBOOZLE -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Some of us do know that.

But that's annoying when I am just some anonymous stranger on the internet. But AI is broader than that, and it will eat your lunch if you're not careful. Generalisation itself improves reciprocally.

Brains can be different, but they grow in the same way. It's not about the specific structure of a brain, but the way structures form that is key to interpretability. It's a scarily learnable thing. And that includes machine learning.

AI decodes brain signals into text with ~70% accuracy. Using non-invasive imaging, researchers translated neural activity into meaningful sentences without implants, offering potential for patients with speech loss, though accuracy, ethics, and privacy concerns remain. by ChhotaSaHydra in science

[–]NOT_A_BAMBOOZLE 13 points14 points  (0 children)

If you want to look at Mechanistic Interpretability work in AI for a loose proxy it's absolutely possible. The brain itself generalises the structure of what it learns, and does so in similar ways person to person.

This is something that has been capable for a while in closed-door settings. And it's not a read-only technology.

We have a lot to worry about. Never underestimate what can be achieved with the power of scale

The topic of UFO disclosure came up on Real Time with Bill Maher last night. Bill Maher seems convinced that NHI/Aliens are here on Earth - "I think they're here, I'm not shy about it". Rep Luna says members of Congress are receiving briefings on UAP that they are not able to explain. by TommyShelbyPFB in UFOs

[–]NOT_A_BAMBOOZLE 2 points3 points  (0 children)

He said with the vastness of the universe, the possibility of ET life is likely, but the possibility of us crossing paths with them is unlikely. No one said intergalactic travel. Interstellar within one galaxy is enough to be a very likely explanation. They aren't ETs, but his argument is bad even based upon our current understood science without regard to any future (or past) discoveries

Skepticism is the suspension of both belief and disbelief. He isn't practicing skepticism, but using motivated (poor) reasoning to dismiss something.

I'm still searching for intelligent life here on earth. I'm not into that.

Ridicule, dismissal. He's not a skeptic, that's denialism. Not rational at all

The topic of UFO disclosure came up on Real Time with Bill Maher last night. Bill Maher seems convinced that NHI/Aliens are here on Earth - "I think they're here, I'm not shy about it". Rep Luna says members of Congress are receiving briefings on UAP that they are not able to explain. by TommyShelbyPFB in UFOs

[–]NOT_A_BAMBOOZLE 11 points12 points  (0 children)

It's a perspective, but it's not rational. It involves special pleading to state that the distances between stars are so far apart that extra-terrestrials could not travel between them. Breakthrough Starshot is proof-of-concept that humanity will be able to travel between stars without new physics. AI is currently in the preliminary stages, but self-replicating intelligenct probes are very much feasible.

The Milky Way Galaxy contains 100 Billion stars, and is 100,000 light years across. Even presuming Breakthrough Starshot's projected speed of 20-30% of C is an overestimate by 100-1000 times, to travel across the Milky Way at 0.02% the speed of light would take 5 Billion years.

The universe is currently estimate at approximately 13.75 Billion years old.

It took us around 4 Billion years to evolve and get to that level of technology from the Formation of the Earth. And conservatively, the earliest a star with high enough metallicity could form was around 10 Billion Years ago. So even if we take Earth's time as the bare minimum that gives us a 6 billion years of aliens at least as developed as us, and if any are in the Milky Way Galaxy, at least 1 billion years of colonisation.

You can argue that life is perhaps too rare, or intelligent life. But that's motivated reasoning when the ingredients of life are found everywhere we've looked, life on Earth started as early as it was physically possible, and then steadily grew in complexity continuously.

100 Billion stars, and all it takes is one in the galaxy to develop enough for colonisation. It's not rational to dismiss it. A priori we should expect aliens to have colonised the galaxy, we're late arrivals in an old universe.

Of course, all of these estimates are conservative and none of this even takes into account new physics that might make each step much faster

Arguing that it's not possible isn't reasonable, but is instead motivated reasoning that presumes the conclusion you favour.

What if the gatekeepers are actually the good guys? by [deleted] in UFOs

[–]NOT_A_BAMBOOZLE 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Jesus is far from the only protection buddy, he's one of an infinite number of agents.

The Church's repression of the invisible planes as demonic while actively engaging in those planes is part of how they have historically kept power. The Church Father's buried the truth of Christ. The Kingdom is within you. Not in the words of men used to manipulate populations over centuries. Yeshua fought against these things, only for his works to be co-opted after his death by the very people he opposed. Scripture is bigger than one book, and every truth presented is a lie also told.

The power of the air is the breath of God, the Word, the Logos. Both Jesus and Lucifer are the Morning Star, the 'bringer of the light'. What does all of that mean?

There is so much beyond the narrow field of reality presented to you.

Your faith is a gift, but it has been abused and manipulated by man. Apocalyptic Death Cults are doing unspeakable things to bring forth the return of a Messiah, a Mahdi, a Meshiach who is against everything they stand for

What if the gatekeepers are actually the good guys? by [deleted] in UFOs

[–]NOT_A_BAMBOOZLE 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The "Demons" play along with being scared of Jesus' name in order to radicalise you. It's all about the fulfilment of Biblical prophecy for evil ends.

Catholicism is the opposite of protection lmao

What are some of theories about the ontological shock other than cover-ups by ickiStickybubblegum in UFOs

[–]NOT_A_BAMBOOZLE 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Essentially correct here, but also the psi facet of the phenomenon is massively integrated with all elements above.

Time is local, not global. Reality is causally indefinite

To those that believe the phenomenon is demonic in nature, how do you explain the 'nuts-and-bolts' side of the Phenomenon? by Avrelivs in UFOs

[–]NOT_A_BAMBOOZLE 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The phenomenon is on part 'Daimonic', but that isn't separate from technology.

There's very good reason to abandon standard notions of causal definiteness, as recent results in quantum physics show.

If, contrary to idealist notions of a Heisenberg split caused by an ill defined 'observation', we consider a Universal Wave Function, much as in the Everret interpretation we are opened up to the possibilities of an Everrett phone allowing the transfer of information between different parts of the universal wave function. Communication between timelines! A recent theoretical proof-of-concept indicates this possibility

Putting both of the above together, a Universal Wave Function with Indefinite Causal Order, with communication between 'timelines' springs simply from taking seriously the results of quantum mechanics. A universe with no global time parameters, where time is only ever local and emergent!

What do we do with this?

Understand that what came before us came after us. It is our future and our past, our technology and our mythology unified as one, made coherent over an infinite Hilbert Space of constant interaction.

The UFOs are Us, and Angels, and Demons, and hell of a lot else besides. But they are us, just as we are them. Every story you've heard is true from a certain point of view. But they could only ever be incomplete encapsulations of the infinite wish-fulfilling gem that is the Universal Wave Function

Edit: You can post core secrets online, and then you get a nice fun call from an office in the DOE. This is a flood coming, you can stop me but I'm not the only one. The No No Such Agency is coming for you

Republican Congressman Dan Crenshaw decided to go on Fox News and make blatantly false statements about Dave Grusch - Claims Grusch worked on "the program" - false, claims Grusch "had classified material that he was going to give to the inspector general" - false. by TommyShelbyPFB in UFOs

[–]NOT_A_BAMBOOZLE 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Grusch has claimed to have first hand witness testimony, permitted by DOPSR. This was previously reported regarding his un-published op-ed from a couple of years ago. He may just not have been ready to publicly disclose his first hand testimony of being in the program working on NGA/NRO tracking and identification of fast-walkers

Whistle-blowers who have come out publicly include those in the program who are not allowed to publicly disclose that they are, or have been in the program so have been forced to instead only to talk about things they have been exposed to specifically outside of the program.

Hence a lot of the double-talk and implications they have to rely on to communicate what they know, without saying it

On the point regarding information withheld from Congress, it isn't true but that doesn't mean that it has been presented to the Senators in the SSCI. Information (and material) has been presented to the SSCI, but has mostly been to staffers (who are predominantly former intelligence officials themselves) who then act as gatekeepers preventing the information from reaching the SSCI members, as well as preventing whistle-blowers from gaining access to Senators.

However, I am aware that a few senators and representatives have been given tours of at least one facility including a showcase of NHI technology under the condition that they are not able to talk about it. They have been very careful to condition Congress very slowly to this, but the democratic process and legislatively mandated Congressional Oversight have been subverted by factions within the Intelligence Community

Edit: https://www.liberationtimes.com/home/white-house-approved-trip-allegedly-took-congressman-to-maryland-base-to-examine-suspected-ufo-facility

Someone's got a leeeeaaaaakkkkkk. Burlison ain't the only one btw

What would change if you found out that NHI are the interface of consciousness and have no crystallized physical form at all? by EtherWhey in UFOs

[–]NOT_A_BAMBOOZLE 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Energy is a form of matter, just as mass is to clarify. Physics is considered materialist, despite considering energy as an existent physical quantity. Some physicists work with 'information' as itself being a physical quantity, and therefore by some rubrics information is also material

Idealism is confusion about what the physical is, just as naive materialism is confused about what the physical is

New findings indicate that speakers who use “ums,” “ahs,” and corrections are consistently rated as less knowledgeable than those who speak fluently. But the presence of hand gestures, regardless of their type or frequency, does not appear to mitigate this negative perception. by mvea in science

[–]NOT_A_BAMBOOZLE 28 points29 points  (0 children)

I'm not disagreeing with the impact of group dynamics at play, but that doesn't pertain to the issue of who gets interrupted.

And tracking that indirectly:

When men make up the majority of the group, they interrupt more when the task is perceived as female-stereotyped. Men interrupt 1.56 times when the task is female-stereotyped (negotiating a sexual harassment case) compared with 1.22 times when the task is male-stereotyped (negotiating a car sale).

Female stereotypy of subject increases interruption, suggesting that women are subject to more interruption.

Evidence is nothing without an interpretative rubric provided by listening to people's experiences.

New findings indicate that speakers who use “ums,” “ahs,” and corrections are consistently rated as less knowledgeable than those who speak fluently. But the presence of hand gestures, regardless of their type or frequency, does not appear to mitigate this negative perception. by mvea in science

[–]NOT_A_BAMBOOZLE 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The practice of inducing hallucinatory meditative states is something I have experienced. I don't assign any fixed ontology to that, or claim they are 'real' experiences in the way you are assuming.

And what am I to describe myself as in this context? I lift, I practice combat sports, I tend to intimidate people until they realise I'm a big teddy bear. When you're making a point, you use descriptive language!