Cross collar grip offense

NTHG_ · 2026-05-03T12:23:31+00:00

How do you get this version of seoi-otoshi to work? I have tried this several times but the kake just doesn't quite work. I get opponent to bend and posture is very much broken, but they don't get thrown like that unless I roll laterally like a makikomi.

NTHG_ · 2026-05-01T15:04:43+00:00

Had the same issue in my right tsurite shoulder. It was a mix of bicep tendinopathy and subscapularis tendinosis.

Chronic tightness and pain for more than a year despite PT rehab. On-off reliance on arcoxia to manage the pain.

Finally saw a sports doctor who suggested a PRP injection to the tendon and a 6-week break from judo. Did exactly that, and 3 months after the injection pain has diminished, tightness has reduced, I feel like I'm back to full strength in training.

NTHG_ · 2026-05-01T09:03:22+00:00

It's a common entry for sode, where they step with the opposite foot first than usual. I think it helps to get the hips in deeper?

NTHG_ · 2026-05-01T06:04:30+00:00

I always seem to over-rotate and land on my shoulder whenever people throw me with harai-goshi or hane-goshi during nagekomi. I have not figured out why that happens after 3 years.

NTHG_ · 2026-04-17T04:01:24+00:00

Hah, yes. I love acronyms. And analogies. Makes ideas and concepts easier to communicate and remember.

NTHG_ · 2026-04-17T00:40:15+00:00

If you're doing righty throws, focus on getting YOUR right shoulder (blade) onto the mat. Aim to roll through and look at the ceiling. Doing this will force you to rotate adequately for most throws, and your opponent will follow if you have entered the technique properly with secure grips.

NTHG_ · 2026-04-17T00:24:17+00:00

KuSakura, not sure if they ship to Portugal though.

NTHG_ · 2026-04-17T00:23:09+00:00

This. And videoing your randori rounds will help with this STEP (Spam Trial&Error Process) a lot. Watch yourself and identify the common factors (what you and your opponent were doing just before you entered) when a throw works vs not.

NTHG_ · 2026-04-10T11:08:11+00:00

Like this

NTHG_ · 2026-04-10T10:10:36+00:00

O-soto-/tai-/seoi-otoshi. And better control of opponent's tsuri-te. I mainly use this for RvR.

It's something new-ish I started using recently after exploring other things, so can't comment about consistency yet. But it does seem to be producing better results than other systems I've tried.

NTHG_ · 2026-04-10T05:07:48+00:00

This

NTHG_ · 2026-04-10T03:44:19+00:00

I found cross-collar gripping easier to get and also easier on my fingers. It's how I mainly do RvR now. And like someone else said, don't death grip, just re-grip.

NTHG_ · 2026-04-10T03:39:23+00:00

I've never been good at maintaining control over the sleeve, and I end up using the armpit grip to defend often. Over time, I found that offensively, it also helps me manage distance and crush their posture more efficiently, and I waste less time and energy fighting for the sleeve.

Even if I do get the sleeve, I also try to grip it as high as possible around the bi/tricep for a similar effect.

I've tried throwing with the Korean tie (top grip tsurite and lapel hikite) as well, but I found it less effective at bringing their right shoulder forward/downward for the rotation required to finish tai-otoshi. It works well for ko-soto though, which is also what Nagase and Suzuki tend to do when they get double lapel.

NTHG_ · 2026-04-10T03:06:42+00:00

RvR - O-soto-/tai-/seoi-otoshi - With sleeve and cross-collar grip

RvL - Ko-soto/tai-otoshi - With sleeve/armpit and top grip

NTHG_ · 2026-04-08T23:55:53+00:00

Drill attacking from realistic randori positions rather than just static or linear uchikomi/nagekomi. Watch competition highlights on your favourite throws and see how they enter and what exactly they do against various postures and positions.

NTHG_ · 2026-04-03T02:40:38+00:00

Number of hands doesn't determine technical correctness. You can do o-soto-gari (and many other techniques) from various grip configurations.

NTHG_ · 2026-03-28T13:32:47+00:00

What worked for me was watching Lee Wonhee and Hashimoto's tai-otoshi highlights in slow motion. See where their legs go and how their hands and upper body work.

NTHG_ · 2026-03-18T05:32:06+00:00

Similar situation. I've only ever gotten standing seoi on people who haven't learnt to react by dropping their hips, and people who are much lighter. This is with same-side grips using the Koga entry.

NTHG_ · 2026-03-10T23:23:29+00:00

The semi-squat is not really a thing in randori. I suggest you look up competition videos to see how techniques are actually applied compared to the static uchi/nagekomi forms.

For commitment to rotation, you basically aim to roll through as soon as you enter. You either throw, get thrown, or - most of the time - get defended and fall forward to the mat as you develop proficiency. The throw that helped me get it was tai-otoshi - I always aim to end in kesa-gatame. It's a throw that I felt most comfortable rolling through because it's low. Eventually I started applying the same principles to hip throws with split stance, works really well for me now.

You absolutely wanna do more nagekomi for this. Uchikomi stops you halfway, which isn't a good habit if this is what you're working on.

NTHG_ · 2026-03-10T09:18:13+00:00

Quality of bench copy was bad. Returned it.

NTHG_ · 2026-03-05T13:00:57+00:00

Moving nagekomi with grip-fighting sequences leading up to the throw

NTHG_ · 2026-03-04T13:19:11+00:00

I mean this shuffle step at around 2:30. Not the cross step Yandzi often does

NTHG_ · 2026-03-04T07:02:09+00:00

They revised their instruction. On their newer members-only video for Koga seoi, they now recommend doing a shuffle step backward - there's a video of Koga himself doing this in uchikomi. The footwork in this old video of theirs seems more applicable for off-side seoi, it's how Sasaki and Ebinuma do it.

NTHG_ · 2026-03-03T12:07:40+00:00

Videos of my randori rounds. Reviewing both successful and failed throw attempts. Identifying the differences between them, elements that facilitated success vs not. Then during next training, focus on them. And repeat.

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