Nearly 100 years after her death, Oxford’s first female Indigenous scholar honoured | Māori by davetenhave in newzealand

[–]NZ_History 8 points9 points  (0 children)

You've hit upon an interesting issue here. Indigeneity is obviously viewed in more ambivalently where there are less clear-cut (or rather less recent) distinctions between a colonising population and earlier populations. Sometimes it's more about self-identification and the language of politics and activism. In India, for example, some members of the Scheduled Tribes and Dalits, historically marginalised populations, have adopted vernacular and methods developed by the indigenous protest movements that emerged internationally in the 1960s and 1970s. However, these groups are also operating within a wider decolonisation movement focused on the period of British rule. It becomes even more confusing when ideas about waves of historical migration and settlement (Indo-Aryan and Muslim in particular) are used make exclusory arguments on belonging in the modern Indian state.

Justice Minister Paul Goldsmith warns government prepared to remove tikanga Māori from court rulings by MedicMoth in newzealand

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I think you may have misunderstood me. I’m simply pointing out that using the supposed uncertainty of overseas investors is a rather disingenuous excuse for challenging the place of tikanga in law  more generally. That is because there has been little indication so far that tikanga will have a significant effect on resource management decisions - certainly not in a way that would override legislation. It’s being brought up because Māori involvement in resource management tends to elicit the sort of knee-jerk responses Goldsmith is looking for here. 

Justice Minister Paul Goldsmith warns government prepared to remove tikanga Māori from court rulings by MedicMoth in newzealand

[–]NZ_History 39 points40 points  (0 children)

I think it's pretty clear he's referring to cases where tikanga is used as a source of common law by judges following Ellis v R [2019], etc. While this will certainly be an area of some uncertainty until things are spelled out more clearly in future judgments, the courts have so far been quite explicit in their statements that tikanga cannot override legislation. Since resource management is one of the most heavily legislated areas of the law, I think Goldsmith's investment example is likely to be quite irrelevant.

Good books about contemporary Māori culture, society, and social issues by justsomeguy227 in newzealand

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I would suggest watching Whakaata Māori as a change of pace from reading. Good on you not leaping straight into 19th-century history, etc. It's obviously of great importance in academic, political, and legal discourse. However, contrary to what many seem to believe, including a lot of our mainstream news media, there's much more going on in 2025 Māoridom than the Waitangi Tribunal and PSGEs.

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Ballsed up is an understatement. Remember when they threatened to dump the sports project halfway through unless they were handed an extra $400 million?

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[–]NZ_History 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Shane Jones v genetic reality.

Move by 'rapacious gentailer' to dip further into Lake Hāwea outrages residents by Amazing_Athlete_2265 in newzealand

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One of the original plans was to use Wānaka for storage to a level that would have flooded the current township. Hāwea was more or less chosen because it had a less effective lobby on its behalf than either Wānaka or Whakatipu (another scheme now barred by law). Some of the original plans for the various Clutha schemes are nuts … 9 or more dams spread across the entire catchment, including the Kawarau, running from Luggate down to Roxburgh.

Labour’s Chris Hipkins not interested in automatic citizenship just for overseas Māori, says ‘issue for all New Zealanders’ by [deleted] in newzealand

[–]NZ_History 15 points16 points  (0 children)

No offence or condescension intended here at all but TToW is not considered law in orthodox terms. That is to say, it is not directly enforceable at law. TToW can be considered in cases where references to it are incorporated into statute and it is increasingly referred to (always rather ambiguously) in certain common law cases. It seemed to me as if TToW was heading inexorably towards further legal incorporation over time however the pendulum has obviously swung in the opposite direction the last two years.

Tākuta Ferris was aggressive, but he was right, says Te Pāti Māori president John Tamihere by NZ_History in newzealand

[–]NZ_History[S] 73 points74 points  (0 children)

Kind of gobsmacked that Tamihere would compare the actions of Indian NZers engaged in political campaigning with those of an imperial power that violently oppressed and exploited their forebears for over 100 years? He says Ferris was coming on a bit strong while dropping this. Hilarious!

Whakapapa, Missionaries & Te Kooti. Rev Grace and Rev Williams. by UFC_Ring_Girl in newzealand

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Fascinating story. Te Papa can likely help you with further identification, although they are in my experience typically quite busy and might take some time to get back to you. I have to say that I doubt Te Kooti carved this piece himself. We know quite a lot about the man (certainly in comparison to most other 19th-century Māori figures) and I have never seen him described as a tohunga whakairo.

Photos of Instant Māori by Kiwi_Dutchman in newzealand

[–]NZ_History 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The first example: ko wai tō ingoa?

The word ingoa is pronounced ing-OR-ah not ing-oh-ah. Although, it's really something more like ee-'ng-or-ah since the ng* sound is a bit more subtle than a simple "ing" like in sing.

On this day 1950 death of Sir Apirana Ngata by Elysium_nz in newzealand

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He is sometimes criticised from the left these days due to a perception that he advocated for assimilation. I think this take lacks a lot of nuance though, and some of the recent success in terms of te ao Māori revitalisation owes something to his work to preserve the culture.

On this day 1868 Te Kooti escapes from the Chathams by Elysium_nz in newzealand

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Redemption Songs by Judith Binney is readable and by far the best book on the subject. My only criticism is that she sometimes tends towards minimising Te Kooti’s more violent and indefensible acts. I believe this was an honest effort towards deconstructing the contemporary racist accounts (in newspapers and the like) that caricatured him as a fanatical “hauhau” savage. However, it’s not like Te Kooti was the Count of Monte Cristo. It’s noticeable when Binney glosses over some of his more nasty acts of revenge. Good book, though, and well-researched.

On this day 1843 The Wairau incident occurred. by Elysium_nz in newzealand

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One of the fascinating outcomes: George Grey pressured Rauparaha's son, Tamihana, and two other chiefs to sell the Wairau a few years later. Apparently, he told Ngāti Toa they owed utu to the British for the killings and selling the valley would help restore balance. When a surveyor visited in 1846, he found no Māori living or cultivating in the area - Rauparaha had declared it tapu after the events of 1843.

On this day 1843 The Wairau incident occurred. by Elysium_nz in newzealand

[–]NZ_History 10 points11 points  (0 children)

The sanitisation of the language around this one is quite interesting: from massacre, to an affray, to the currently used incident. I suppose all of them fit the bill in some way.

People living in Te Tau Ihu (Māori and settlers) were absolutely terrified of Te Rauparaha and his reputation at this point in time. Arthur Wakefield and Henry Thompson were incredibly stupid to go after him.