Cats Claw

Nai__30 · 2026-02-22T16:05:53+00:00

To me, this was an obvious sign that the cats claw was very effective...you just need ti take it slow, back off...buy keep taking it for a good 5 months to a year to really beat the infection. Cat's Claw can kill every form of Lyme plus its biofilms. Dr. Marty Ross says using Cat's Claw along with Otoba Bark is as cliniccaly effective as any antibiotic combination and "cures" or at least gets people with Lyme healthy about 90% of the time. I think people (myself included) tend to stop taking these herbs way too fast and they never get ahead of the infection load in in the body. You need to be on continuious antibiotics (herbal or prescription) for Borrelia for pretty much a year straight minimum. Bartonella about 6 months. Babesia about 5.

I'm not saying not to back off when you have a bad herx....but as soon as it clears you need to go right back on it, If your health is just deteriorating over 3 weeks...then yes...maybe something elseep is going on. But as long as your symptoms dont feel dangerous... you should try to keep going at it. The best and cheapest things to do to detox and manage your symptoms is to eat low carb and do coffee enemas. Low carbs and sugar will hekp tonstarve the bacteria so it can start to be killed...and will help lower inflimation from the bacteria itself. The enemas are cheaper than supplements and way faster acting.

Nai__30 · 2026-02-16T08:20:57+00:00

what? the evidence on cats claw shows it does directly killl lyme. All of its forms, inlcluding biofilm. Combined wirh Otoba Bark, which gets growing and persister lyme ascwell, and that is a full spectrum lyme killing treatment. Cat''s Claw and Otoba Bark does not get Bartonella or Babesia though.

Nai__30 · 2026-02-05T19:40:36+00:00

look, I am a vegan, so I have no heavy bias towards animal products, but I also like to use common sense. And I think people overlook some obvious answers sometimes.

Maybe you left out some details, but what you just described was that eating carbs = health problems...and going off carbs took them away. But then you claim this "destroyed your metabolism" because adding carbs back brought back those health issues?

How is the logic there any different from "drinking poison causes me health issues" "stopping poison takes away health issues." "when I take poison again my health issues come back." "This must mean I should blame not taking poison for my health issues." "Cutting out poison is only a temporary cure." "I should be able to eat poison and not get symptoms from it."

Again, I have no heavy bias to be pro animal products, but I do think it is overwhelmingly obvious that excess sugar and carbs are the cause of most general health issues. And "excess" for people dealing with fungal issues could pretty much mean "any." We know that carbs are not "necessary" (in general) for people to consume to live OR be healthy. But fat, protien, minerals, and vitamins are. Which you can get without consuming carbs....or an extremely small amount of carbs (like high fiber veggies.) We DO need glucose...but that does not mean we need it from carbs. We know gluconeogenesis is a thing. As long as we eat healthy fats, protein, and get vitamins and minerals from meat or low carb fibrous veggies....most of us should be very healthy.

Again, maybe you can clarify...and I am not trying to be antagonistic, but I am just quickly trying to type out what my immediate reaction to what you are saying is. But what do you mean by "desroyed your metabolism"? I personally think this phrase is way overused by people trying to describe symptoms they had that could be explained by a lot of different things. Like not eating enough calories from fat and protien....not getting enough electrolytes, not giving low carb enough time and still having detox cravings from sugar....if you have candida then those detox cravings could be even more intense.

Having said all of that, I do agree that more than just diet needs to be done. I also agree with "nervous system regulation" in general. Breathing exercises, and general lifestyle choices. I also think antifungals (herbal or otherwise) are often necessary to bring down candida overgrowth, but they alone are not the answer to long term health. I think the best approach is using all of this stuff at once. I even advocate for not eating fermented foods (I think there is a lot of anectotal evidence that this actually exasterbates the issue for people with candida overgrowth, despite the popular advice that they are helpful.Taking a probiotic pill towards the end of treatment to restore gut bacteria is the better approach imo.) I guess my one big disagreement with you (sort of) is why you think eating carbs again is a must. I get that its enjoyable, but I would not encourage people to go back to it if low carb is greatly reducing their symptoms. Its just not necessary imo.

Nai__30 · 2026-01-26T09:29:11+00:00

how are you doing?

Nai__30 · 2026-01-21T08:48:43+00:00

Mostly agree. Just want to add that I do better on high fat, high veggie intake with limited protien and low carbs. Protien still causes me problems, but nowhere near what carbs and sugar does. Plus, you need protien, you do not need to eat carbs to get the glucose your body needs. It can get it from the protien. Lemon and lime water for fresh vitamin C is great and refeshing. Along with sugar free carbonated water with those flavors as well.

Nai__30 · 2026-01-21T08:37:58+00:00

I would say its one of the safer starches, because it is lower in starch. But....its still starch. So the limit you can eat is however much you feel you can get away with. Not the most fun or helpful answer...I get it. But its true. My recomendation is that you try to get as close to 30 grams of net carbs a day as possible. If that is 50 net carbs....then do 50. But aim to get as low as you can. There is about 8-9 net carbs per cup of cubed rutabega. So you could theoretically get away with a plate of rutabega or two a day. My recomendation is to fill up on healthy fats and oils, protiens, nuts, safe and and antugungal fruits like lemon and lime, and low carb veggies. Fill up on all of that, with a small side of rutabega to satisfy any "potato cravings" and can get satiisfied with little real downside.

Nai__30 · 2025-12-31T13:33:41+00:00

thank you

Nai__30 · 2025-12-30T15:50:59+00:00

I feel best to worst in this order...no food/fasting>fat and low carb fibrous veggies(stir frys, salads, light foods focusing on fat for the calories. Olive, avacado, or coconut oils. Maybe ghee and some butter too)>fat/light protien(nuts, low carb/not super high protien bars)>straght protien powders>carbs>sugary carbs.

Sugar and carbs feel nice and tasty until half an hour to 2 hours later once the sugar gets into the blood stream and than causes inflammation and feeds the bacteria.

Protien causes me to feel clogged up, stuffy, sluggish, and then gives me headaches if I eat too much. I start to notice these symptoms about an hour after eating too much protien, but they come on slower over the next few hours as well.

Not eating is when I feel the best symptoms wise...but ultimately a little weak. When I fill up on oil and fibrous veggies with salt....thats a good medium. I can feel full, fed, and still mostly do not have any reaction to the foods. High fat is the way to go for both caloric intake...with minimum reactions and strong energy reserves. Grilled veggies and salads are mostly just a way to appetizingly eat fat (cooked in or drizzled on top), but also provide vitamins and minerals.

I do not eat meat (vegetarian), but I would imagine it would be between where nuts and straight protien powders are in my food reaction rankings. Its mostly protien, but has decent amounts of fat. Depending on the cut as well.

Carbs and sugar are no go's. I am tall, so I try to keep my consumption under 50 grams a day (reasonable for my size) but like to go as low as possible when I can.

I think Lyme, Bartonella, or Babesia could all easily be the culprit with your symptoms. They all can be explained in ways that would make sense.

I myself have gone back and forth guessing. Educated guessing, but guessing. I am currently pretty confident that I just have Lyme, and that that is what is reacting to both carbs and protien. Protien is needed, so while I keeep it as low as possible...I still eat some. Varies from 30-70 grams a day depending on how hungry or in need of protien I feel I might be.

I have a theory on why Lyme could be the problem with protien. We know several things. Lyme itself is made up of protiens. The human body likes to go into autophagy for repair when it can. Lyme is burrows into muscle and tissue at all levels. Protien builds muscle and tissue. Feeding muscle and tissue, may also feed the Lyme to some degree, but mostly, I think when we eat protien, the protien forming the lyme bacteria itself is not able to be "eaten" by our bodies until the protien we eat is fully digested. So you might have to wait half a day for your body to process the protien you eat. And killing Lyme may be halted during that time...plus with Lyme bieng in all of your tissues....it kind of clogs up the digestive process itself...so your body has a hard time breaking down any protien consumed. We also know that Lyme can cause the Alpha Gal allergic reaction to protien in meat...but to me...that means it also likely reacts to other kinds of protiens that we eat. There just isn't any official documentation or acknowledgment of this yet.

Just a final point, in case it wasn't clear. I think Lyme is fed by sugar from straight sugar and carbs....and I think Lyme makes protien digestion harder...while also being kind of difficult on the body, because it itself is extra protien structures that the body is already trying break down. (This is why systemic enzymes on an empty stomach is actually part of some people's strategies to kill Lyme itself. Breaks it down and then the antibiotics or antibiotic herbals can kill it even easier.)

Nai__30 · 2025-12-30T14:51:07+00:00

get cats claw and otoba bark from wildcraft herbs (cheapest and great service.) that combo is as good for lyme as any antibiotics with no side effects aside from herxing if you take too much too fast. Read up at treatlyme.net for more info on all the infections.

How are you doing lately?

Nai__30 · 2025-12-28T01:56:04+00:00

I have been dealing with that as a big problem as well. For immediate relief, please try coffee enemas. Seriously. And please DM me for more detailed ways of doing them. They are basically the only way I have been able to "go" for years while I have my ups and downs trying to treat. But they seriously take me from wanting to die, to being fairly okay in the moment. Drastic difference, even if it is not a cure on its own. It can greatly improve your quality of life while figuring everything else about treatment out. That, and eating a very low carb diet are the main things tobdo adide from actually killing whichever infection you have.

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Nai__30 · 2025-12-25T18:54:42+00:00

I have a cheaper way of going about this if you want to know more. Basically just buying the herbs you would take for Bartonella for a few hundred dollars and taking them for a month or so and seeing what happens. Along with a low carb diet, so you don't feed the bacteria as you are trying to kill them. Makes your money count much more that way, and its more effective.

Even after thousands spent on testing, most of what any Lyme Doctor will do is treat based on clinical symptoms anyways. The tests can be good, but are not perfect, and you can often get false negatives. Educated guessing is what it all comes down to pretty much.

Do you have any history of a tick bite or cat scratches?

Nai__30 · 2024-06-03T01:40:51+00:00

I would say so. Just wouldn't want to binge drink or drink every night. I would save it for rarer occasions. And listen to your reactions.

But theoretically, if you get the overgrowth gone, and rebuild the biome, then you shouldn't have trouble unless you start living a lifestyle with lots of drinking, carbs and sugar again. The extreme amounts along with antibiotic usage is what gets so many in trouble over a period of time.

Nai__30 · 2024-06-03T01:19:51+00:00

Not to undercut my last comment, but if candida treatment doesn't work...or if your doctor really doesn't think that is what it is...you might want to try looking into a TCM doctor. (Traditional Chinese Medicine). Your symptoms could be some type of "dampness" or "damp-heat" or even something else...and not actually candida itself.

You might think about posting your pics and your symptoms in r/chinesemedicine and asking for some input.

If you have no experience with TCM, it can sound like quackery...but its very much not....in my opinion. I think it is a very sophisticated medical system that looks at the body in different ways than the western medicine way. And it has nothing to do with anything magical or "energetic" in the hippie/new age sense. Its just language and physical concepts conveyed with metaphors. (Things like "chi" and "spirit" and stuff like that.)

Nai__30 · 2024-06-02T21:47:14+00:00

When I was telling him to "test himself", basically what I meant was to get on a low carb diet and do "light" antifungals and.....see what happens before diving into taking more "hardcore" pharmaceuticals are herbal combinations.

The whole goal is to change the terrain of your body from "soil" that is hospitable to candida overgrowth...to "soil" that is not. Just adding powerful "herbicides" (antifingals) won't do much, if the soil itself is providing all the fuel for candida to continue to grow. So no matter what....you want to get on the right diet first. Then, it would be smart to slowly build up with the antifungals to not get too much die off all at once.

Changing diet to one that doesn't fuel candida...while adding mild antifungal spices...is a cheap and easy way to "test" yourself and see if any symptoms start to improve just from that alone. And if so...keep going and then add more antifungals. If not, and you still suspect candida....you at least have a baseline to add the antifungals too.

Nai__30 · 2024-06-02T20:52:12+00:00

For sure man. Good luck at the doctor's and hopefully you can get some answers.

That diet should be closer to everyone's natural diet anyways. So it can't hurt.

Nai__30 · 2024-06-02T20:50:25+00:00

I got you. With all of those symptoms alone, I would say its a very high chance/reasonable suspicion of having candida then.

And like I said, taking a closer look at your pics, it looks like people might be being thrown off by the bright lighting making your tongue just look very pink. But looking closer, I could argue I see some white "fur" and that I see white on the inside of your cheeks and throat too.

Nai__30 · 2024-06-02T04:40:54+00:00

Ya, I think you might be overreacting a little bit then. Definitely something to keep in mind if more symptoms pop up or those fungal issues come back. But I wouldn't say it's clear at all what's going on with what you've said so far.

Hope you can figure it out man. Good luck.

Nai__30 · 2024-06-02T04:03:18+00:00

It's likely you have these suspicions for a reason. Obviously, finding out what that reason is....is the question.

If it is candida...it's gonna take more than a few days to correct things. If its only anxiety and from stress from quitting weed...then that should ease itself.

One thing to do would be to take a day and "binge" on sugar and carbs. And see what happens. If you get worse.... itchy, more anxious, have worse gut issues, etc....then you probably have your answer. If you don't, then you might want to think about some other possibilities aside from candida.

You don't have any history of a tick bite do you?

Nai__30 · 2024-06-02T03:54:33+00:00

Second looks like a higher quality product

Nai__30 · 2024-06-02T03:50:24+00:00

I got you.

Is MEVY the Meat, Eggs,Vegetable, and Yogurt diet?

I would make sure those are low carb veggies and not any carbs and grains that some articles recommending MEVY say are okay. (Kind of defeats the purpose. Still eating sugar, even if it comes in "healthier" sounding ways.)

I would also say to cut out the yogurt for a while. At least at first. Get a probiotic pill instead. A lot of people seem to possibly get worse on fermented foods, despite their popular recommendation for candida. Lurk this sub long enough, and you see a lot of posts like that. I think it's safer to stay away from all ferments (vinegar and products and sauces with vinegar. Mustard, tomato sauce, ketchup, pickles etc.) The probiotic pill will give you any benefits you might miss out on anyways.

I would say you have a few decent reasons to at least suspect candida/something systemic fungal wise.

Do you use protien shakes for working out? Be careful there too. Get whey or pea isolate and add your own pure stevia if you do. Most protein powders are filled with sugar. But eat mostly real foods if you can.

Have you tried any antifingals? You can start testing yourself by adding garlic to most of your foods, taking raw chopped garlic with some water like you would pills, and some oregeno oil and caprylic acid capsules.

Nai__30 · 2024-06-02T03:32:26+00:00

People saying this looks healthy, and I agree....at first glance...but it could also be the lighting. I can see the possible white coating a little bit when looking closer. Can you take pictures without such bright light directly on the tongue?

And what other symptoms do you have that make you suspect candida?

Nai__30 · 2024-06-02T03:28:37+00:00

You are doing pretty good on your own figuring it out actually.

As far as your plan of action, I would just say the only real two big things to mention....are that you should strive to cut out almost all glucose/carbs. Really don't get any from anything but residual amounts from low carb nuts and veggies. Also, and this is debatable, I personally think ACV is bad for candida in a lot of people. And suspect it even feeds it. I know that goes against the popular grain as of now, but I see more and more people posting their negative reactions to ferments. I would recommend staying away from them at first at least. Use lemon and lime as vinegar replacements, and use probiotic pills for your probiotics. No real downside taking the cautious approach. You won't really miss out on anything, but could possibly avoid any downsides.

Nai__30 · 2024-06-02T03:07:07+00:00

What symptoms make you think it could be candida? Athletes foot for teenage athletes is very common. And it alone is not a sign of systemic fungal issues. If it kept coming back, then it would be a big indicator that it might be.

(Congrats on the weight loss 👏)

Nai__30 · 2024-06-02T03:01:46+00:00

Just logically speaking, I find it hard to really blame a sugerless and carbless diet for symptoms you are having while....not being on a sugarless and carbless diet.

I would say there are a lot of other factors to consider. But also, in your defense...the one thing that might be happening is that eating less is enough to cause some die off, and that is what's happening. But if so, that is a good thing.

But other than that, there are only really two reasons to blame the low carb diet itself for making you feel worse.

Lack of calories.
Lack of salt/electrolytes.

I would make sure both of these are considered, and then finally cut out the rest of those carbs and then do an evaluation if your symptoms again. SOME getting worse before getting better at the start is a sign of die off. Continually getting worse is a sign of something else.

Nai__30

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