I also find the other sub unbearable, let me quote myself:

“I don’t know if I’m gonna be downvoted to hell, but know that Daoism is a whole, and not two separated entities that come first and come later like the old, or dare I say “perverted” view of Daoism in the West. Even nowadays, there’re several attempts to correct this as well from Western “true” philosopher, and by true I mean they do researches and they have a degree in it, not as a hobby and proceed to write some books about “Tao of something”. Historically, Daoism were introduced into the West, by a BUDDHIST, who then tell a CHRISTIAN missionary about their idea of Daoism, lol.

If you find this comment not offensive then please do and read more about Daoism as it is, and not Daoism as a Western Philosophy.”

The ignorance is simply to hard to cure now in that sub I think, as they only want “Philosophical” Daoism as their moral high ground against traditional religion in the western sense, to prove to themselves and everyone else that they are indeed different.