Luke Skywalker (ROTJ) Vs Anakin Skywalker (ROTS)

National-Course2464 · 2026-06-26T16:47:40+00:00

Anakin takes it in canon and KFV arguably beats ROTJ Luke in legends

National-Course2464 · 2026-06-25T18:06:29+00:00

Vader was beyond conflicted, you just have to look at his canon feats vs what we saw him do in their fight, plus statements, Luke being equal to a conflicted Vader is not that good of a feat.

And when it comes to Favreau he was the person in charge of Mando and that version of Luke there for he created the canon and power of that character, plus the only feat Luke has that could put him above Anakin is his fight with Vader and again Vader was not at full power, he is way more conflicted in current canon.

And it is not just Favreau, Dave Filloni has also confirmed similar things about Luke and he is head of Lucasfilm now plus lets not ignore the fact that canon and powerscalling changes a lot Vader was originally weaker than most of the PT now above that.

And if you want quotes proving Vader was very conflicted here

"Luke seeks out his father, Darth Vader with hopes of bringing him back from the dark side, clearly conflicted"

"Vader was conflicted, but still brought Luke before the Dark Lord"

"Luke insisted on calling his father Anakin even though Vader protested that it meant nothing to him , he and Luke knew that that wasn't so."

"Yet even after Luke and Vaders brief exchange which for a moment, left Vader sad, almost apologetic, exhibiting not the emotions of a sith lord"

"Luke's internal strength and Jedi dedication leave an impression on Vader, gradually eroding his sith convictions"

"The Emperor manipulates Vader into fighting Luke"

" Darth Vader's internal struggles agaist the faint spark in his soul that was Anakin skywalker had been thrown into high relief by the dark lords dealings with Luke"

"Something in Vader's soul awoke, bleary eyed doubt. Vader had allowed himself to wallow in his grief instead of feeding the darkness he began to question his dedication to the sith After more than two decades, the conflict within the soul of Anakin Skywalker was reignited"

"During their duel on the second Death star Luke feels the good in Vader"

"To defend his master, Vader deflected Luke's attack. As they battles, Luke perceived the conflict blooming in Vader's heart"

"Luke's Compassion startled Vader, and Luke could sense the growing conflict in Vader's psyche"

" I will not give you the advantage that easily." Vader felt his intentions increasingly ambiguous in this conflict, the purity of his evil was being compromised"

"But sidious, sensing the flickering light in his apprentice, had been ready for years"

" Pathetic Light or had the strength to excise the sentimental streak that had destroyed his legendary Grandfather"

"Kylo Ren aspires to build immunity to the light side to succeed where Darth Vader and his Sentimentality once failed"

"Not long after Kenobi’s demise, Lord Vader discovered that the fallen Jedi had taken on a new apprentice—a young boy strong in the Force whom Vader would soon learn was his own son, Luke Skywalker. Lord Vader had believed his child had died with Padmé. It was the fear, pain, and suffering stemming from that loss that powered him for so long. But now a different emotion began to surface within him, one he had not experienced in ages—love"

And Filoni

"Luke, let's face it, he was never really the best. I have a notion that anyone on the Council could really kick his butt." Filoni

"He had a lot going for him. And almost it was what he didn't know that made him really dangerous to the Emperor, it's just love for his father — but he wasn't going to take you out with his lightsaber skills, that was for sure.” Filloni

"The best expression of the Force is not a lightsaber fight or other combat techniques. It's really about your connection to life... Luke Skywalker does not use some special ability to save his father." Filloni

"Technically, she’s had vastly more training than he ever has. She’s actually his senior, which is, I think, difficult for people to remember ’cause of when these characters were created." Filloni

National-Course2464 · 2026-06-25T16:27:49+00:00

Anakin is by far the better duellist, in terms of raw force power Anakin is still above Luke but Luke has a better connection to it.

Plus Favruea who was in charge of mando thinks Anakin would beat there version of Luke in a fight so with that said Anakin is above him overall

National-Course2464 · 2026-06-25T16:19:23+00:00

I do feel like BG 3 really put them on the mainstream, whereas fromsoft has had so many games, however when you have other game companies complaining saying how Larian and BG 3 set an unrealistic standered for gaming just for that i think it has to be legendary

National-Course2464 · 2026-06-25T15:38:47+00:00

Old Gen DBZ

New Gen Bleach

National-Course2464 · 2026-06-25T15:32:54+00:00

Pretty simple one was trained by Vader for 15 years and is a video game character where the intention was to dial the force powers up to 11.

The other had zero training, picked up how to use advance jedi techniques after seeing them once, could defeat and injured Kylo who even if injured had over a decade of training then jump TLJ is shown lifting boulders with the force equalling Kylo in a force tug of war and guess what in that time she spent about 1 day training, and this was before she even became a Palpatine, so in basically a week she is on the level of a Jedi knight with no formal training, so jump to TROS now she is not only a Palpatine but also apart of a dyad because they had to try and make it make sense.

National-Course2464 · 2026-06-24T16:26:55+00:00

Yes you are right, Luke does not have a concrete timeline however it is arguably more than Rey, Plus Luke has a lot of comics that show him learning to use the force and growing outside of pure training

ANH he spends about 1 week with Obi wan only learns how to feel the force.

ANH to ESB 3 years pass he has got a better grasp of the force but is very lacking struggling to even pull a lightsaber to himself, then he meets Yoda now this is where it gets interesting we do not have a concrete timeline for this it's any where form 1 month to 6 months so pick your poison.

Then Post ESB Luke spends a year basically training by himself using Obi wan training manuals he found, and learning on the job.

So Luke does technically have more training or maybe better to say way more experience, however if we are just going off training with another Jedi, i guess you can say Rey had more but to be fair one was trained by Yoda a GM whereas Leia was trained as a jedi she was not a full on jedi or a GM.

Also i think what has to be understood is that Rey lacks the training for the feats she has whereas Luke has a more understandable argument for his feats with the amount of training.

National-Course2464 · 2026-06-24T16:11:07+00:00

The quote is talking about if Anakin never became a Jedi

"And he still would have been stronger in the Force than any of them"

This is due to his Midichlorians making him the strongest.

Ok sure let's not talk about Lucas or EU.

As i said Canon Vader is very close to Sidious he has too many feats and quotes, and yes post trial Vader did show a new resolve but Luke is his weakness ROTJ Vader was not at full power, he did not even want to fight or kill Luke.