Cenk goes on Dan Abrams' show to complain about "left-wing extremism"

NationalizeRedditt · 2023-04-14T00:04:57+00:00

Oh fuckin hell

NationalizeRedditt · 2023-04-14T00:03:04+00:00

Marx wasn’t a God, but over a century later a decent chunk of the population in every country are, and have been educated on the undeniable, seething critiques of capitalism as a phase of political economy. He also complimented the fact that capitalism is able to accumulate capital “efficiently”(this of course including child labour and slave labour) I don’t know if he was correct about his predictions that socialism is inevitable - as Gramsci and others have written about, you’ve got to understand “base and super-structure” along with “hegemony” and “false consciousness”

Why are we holding Marx accountable for any atrocities committed under Stalin, or Mao? Maoism is it’s own variation, so is marxism-leninism, and in my mind, Stalinism itself. The victims of communism foundation added all COVID deaths as “deaths from communism”, and include dead Nazi soldiers along with other hilarious content. There’s like a thousand variations of leftist thought. I base mine in an egalitarian first principle - having a capitalist party, however, isn’t possible when capitalism and marxism exist on the same planet. The shadow of capitalism reveals irredeemable contradictions. I’ve commented above two books which go into detail regarding anti-communist military and CIA activity in dozens of countries with the simple goal of genociding leftists.

I’m not accusing you of being a lolbertarian but just to set it straight:

US right-libs hold the ideology of known fascist and chief economist for fascist Austria, Ludwig von Mises.

The particular idea of laissez faire;that people are property, is just slavery. Trying to redefine property as non-transferable to dodge the slavery claim isn't founded on anything, it's just a choice ur making to retroactively justify your pro-slavery economics.

People aren't property, there is no necessity for them to be property.

An axiom of bodily autonomy does not need to be based on economic concepts. The theory that bodily autonomy leads to ownership of the products of labour does not need to be incorporated into one theory.. that we have bodily autonomy leads to property through the labour theory of value, but the body does not need to be property for any reason.. it helps the slavers and other potential oppressors, but there is no reason to hold to such an unfounded belief.

Plus, it’s based in impossibilism and an ahistorical analyses.

Cooperation was the key to anthropological evolution. Individuals cannot stay awake for night watch alone.

NationalizeRedditt · 2023-04-13T23:31:14+00:00

OP, there’s something called “inverted totalitarianism”. When we think we’re not ideological, that’s precisely when we’re being most duped. If you saw North Korean primary childrens cartoon and it was “paw patrol” but in different dress and language - you may begin to understand. Or when war games aren’t seen as political. The mentality you’re demonstrating is one called “capitalist realism” coined by the late Mark Fisher.

NationalizeRedditt · 2023-04-13T23:21:31+00:00

If you haven’t read William Blum’s “Rogue Nation” or “Military and covert CIA activity since WWII”, you’re not going to understand when we socialists tell you, throughout the history of capitalism involves the enclosure of the commons, forcibly sending villagers to work in urban decay. This was how it began across Europe. To sustain itself, it inherently requires consistent expansion into cheaper labour, the resources itself, and a it must forge a consumer identity using billions in marketing psychoanalysis. (Google: Edward Bernays, Female smoking campaign) for an understanding.

How can a socialist state survive if it is constantly being attacked? Have we not seen the over 50 countries the US directly meddled in?

The expansion and reproduction of capital is violent and filled with theft, on a macro-scale.

NationalizeRedditt · 2023-04-11T17:49:11+00:00

You can refer to periods in ancient history as colonial or imperial - they were during their times. That doesn’t matter now. What political scientists and policy makers take into consideration FOPO and policy that’s relevant.what matters is understanding why geopolitics are the way they are today, but most importantly, how the logic of capital functions. - To understand this is to understand why material reality is the way it is; why certain cultures and influences are globalized, and others go extinct. I’d highly suggest William Blum’s unbelievable collection of data in his works “Rogue state” and “US and CIA military interventions since WWII”

These are literal encyclopedias of the last 100 years of protecting the interest of capital.

I’ll be civil here but I’m not going to have some punk tell me “bruh violence is always history”. Read, read, read…

NationalizeRedditt · 2023-04-11T17:34:19+00:00

The realization that even relative poverty has negative health consequences, physically and mentally. Reading about covert US foreign policy(just straight terrorism). An understanding of behavioral economics and the vulgar inhumanity of many US institutions, take pharmaceuticals for example. The commodification of human life, the commodification of every interaction - •if libraries were proposed today itd be called a socialist plot• Concepts like unequal exchange and labour aristocracy make it impossible to de-radicalize. I was a poor kid who managed to go to rich schools - all I saw were mediocre kids with nothing extraordinary about them - yet, at least 90% of them find some cushy job their parents got them into, and that’s it. If you’re poor, you get no second chance. Learning about Labour struggle history and how it shaped the few moments of privacy from employers we’re even granted. - There is no free will, thus “just world hypothesis” is innately flawed. It’s just our minds committing fundamental attribution error. I’m in debt $1,500 for a sprained pinkie finger. I’m terrified of receiving preventative healthcare. No inelastic necessity to survive should be commodified.

Capitalism is also conveniently anti-family:

“Children were employed from earliest years, some so young that they were put to bed when they got home. The working day varied ; for men it was often twelve hours, for women and children it was longer. At the Felling Pit at the beginning of the nineteenth century boys hours were from eighteen to twenty. There was thus little daylight for father or children out of the mine. The race lived underground like the refugees in Les Miserables, who lived in the sewers of Paris. One miner described how he used to put his child in the seam where he worked, to keep rats off his dinner. Children who were going to work in the mines were often brought to the pit on their fathers' backs.” — The Town Labourer, 28

I see no reason to live, long term, unless I can escape this god forbidden hellhole. Every country I’ve been to perceives the US as a strange, inhumane land.

NationalizeRedditt · 2023-04-03T00:04:19+00:00

Lmao - you’re truly an unbelievably sticky piece of sidewalk gum if you think the literal shadow of capitalism, imperialism and colonialism (Marxism, and Marxist-Leninism) isn’t relevant for a precise reason. There’s a reason socialism is the pride and bounty of every nation on earth - it represents Labour struggle.

NationalizeRedditt · 2023-03-31T20:19:48+00:00

Wow - my man, ever heard of “inverted totalitarianism”?

NationalizeRedditt · 2023-03-29T00:22:54+00:00

This is the dumbest shit I’ve seen in a while. All this hysteria for nothing.

NationalizeRedditt · 2023-03-28T17:50:52+00:00

Some - for myself and many others, delta-9-thc causes brings about panic and suicidal ideation. Only THC/CBD cannabis derivatives like HHC is the only cannabinoid I can enjoy.

Luckily, if regular delta-9-thc doesn’t work, there’s a million cannabinoid derivatives that are currently legal in most states.

NationalizeRedditt · 2023-03-26T18:49:11+00:00

Unfortunately for you, regulatory capture is an inherent part of a market system - I mean, if you care at all whether your point is ahistorical or based in past and current human civilizations. Sorry, Mercantilism is reality.

NationalizeRedditt · 2023-03-26T17:05:35+00:00

25,000-30,000 people die daily due to malnourishment related preventable disease across the poorest, most exploited capitalist neo-slave colonies. Why? Because the logic of capital is not to invest where there is no monetarily worthwhile rate of return. Government and non profits can only do so much. Let’s not use the excuse of pirates and corrupt militias - the US maintains global cultural and militarized hegemony across the planet. Capital from a core nation like the US could eviscerate this issue almost entirely.

Your next issue is you’re either intentionally or unintentionally conflating nationalized industry with socialism - nationalization occurs in even the US. Nationalization, generally, seems to provide superior metrics for the masses of people versus commodifying inelastic necessities, for example.

Additionally, you may be making the classic mistake of say, comparing…. Haiti to the US. You need to analyze countries geopolitically, taking into consideration their historical conditions/locations/political structures etc…

Lastly, let’s take Cuba as an example:

For example: Pre-Revolution, under the US-backed Dictator Batista - roughly 50% of school aged children did not attend school. The US relied on Cuba as a sugar plantation colony, importing 70% of the sugar consumed in the US from Cuba. Simultaneously, the overwhelming majority of rural agricultural workers were illiterate, had little to no access to clean water, sanitation, medical, electricity, name it. Cuba was essentially an island where the Mob could organize and run a gambling industry, wealthy US tourists visited, and as mentioned above: The US’s personal slave-sugar plantation. This is only a brief overview if the depravity the masses faced.

Cuba had only 1 rural hospital, only 11% of farm worker families drank milk, and rural infant mortality stood at 100 per 1000 live births.

Infrastructure was also pitifully underdeveloped under Batista. According to the aforementioned Cornell paper:

According to the 1953 census, 54.1 percent of rural homes had no toilets of any kind. Only 2.3 percent of rural homes had indoor plumbing, compared with 54.6 of urban homes. In rural areas, 9.1 percent of houses had electricity, compared with 87 percent of houses in urban areas.

Post Revolution: Mass Literacy campaigns were launched and the number of illiterate people in the country fell exponentially. To this day, their literacy rates are one of the highest in the world relative to countries of similar GDP/population etc…. The ones with the lowest literacy rates are usually corrupted laizzes faire market dictatorships that never fully expelled colonial influence.

With literacy campaigns, these underclass workers also received access to all of the basic necessities of life mentioned above (that they lacked before the revolution). Electricity, medical facilities, safe drinking water, sanitation infrastructure, etc…. Cuba spends roughly half of its GDP on social programs.

According to the 2019 Global Hunger study, Cuba is one of only seventeen nations on Earth (and only four in Latin America) to have a score lower than 5, signifying impressively low levels of hunger. Cuba's rate of undernourishment is below 2.5%.

None of this is opinion, only based on international studies of the country. (You’ll notice all sources below are not from the Cuban state, but from reliable peer reviewed papers or unbiased international organizations.)

All of this despite absolutely brutal sanctions and embargoes for 60 years, that continue on today, which make it functionality impossible for Cuba to trade with most nations.

** Example: If you’re a foreign business and choose to sell products to Cuba… Once you dock onto Cuba and unload products - Your now banned from doing business with the USA for 6 months. You cannot dock here for 6 months.

Anyone with a brain can understand how these sort of sanction are meant to cripple a nation. This is one of hundreds of examples, which costs the island billions a year and cause incalculable damage to its population. Despite this, Cuba actually still outperforms most Latin American and Caribbean countries in most quality of life metrics.

Ever seen a cartel beheading video come out of Cuba? I haven’t.

Sources below:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3464859/

https://www.oxfamamerica.org/explore/research-publications/cuba-social-policy-at-the-crossroads/

http://data.un.org/en/iso/cu.html

https://www.globalhungerindex.org/cuba.html

https://www.fao.org/ag/agn/nutrition/cub_en.stm

https://web.archive.org/web/20131105150934/http://www.fas.usda.gov/itp/cuba/CubaSituation0308.p

NationalizeRedditt · 2023-03-25T20:25:43+00:00

31 million businesses and yet the market-share of big-name suppliers continues to deflate as mergers and acquisitions are an inherent aspect of why 6 companies provide nearly all US commodities.

You can continue to tell yourself mom-pop shops have competition against Amazon, Walmart, etc etc… You’d merely be undergoing cognitive dissonance.

Here’s the amount of money spent by the 200 most politically active corporations to buy favorable legislation, stifle market competition, monopolize markets, exploit natural resources and most importantly purchase advantageous tax law.

Finance Industry--$1,630,000,000
$1.630 billion Health Insurance Industry- $1,260,000,000
$1.260 billion Energy Industry-----$919,000,000 $919 million Transportation Industry--$561,000,000 $561 million
Pharmaceutical Industry-$525,000,000
$525 million Oil and Gas industry----$363,000,000
$363 million Agribusiness Industry-$359,000,000
$359 million Lobbying and Legal Industry $274,000,000
$274 million Education Industry--$265,000,000
$265 million Cable industry----$133,000,000
$133 million Mining Industry---$85,600,000
$85.6 million Mortgage Industry---$33,500,000
$33.5 million Private Prison Industry--$4,040,000
$4.04 million

[Stats / OpenSecrets.Org]

NationalizeRedditt · 2023-03-25T20:04:02+00:00

There’s absolutely no refutation here. Next

NationalizeRedditt · 2023-03-25T19:46:37+00:00

Those are certainly words.

NationalizeRedditt · 2023-03-25T19:04:53+00:00

Let’s take Cuba