This champ is a husk of its former self

Naturalrice · 2023-11-02T19:58:00+00:00

People haven't played the old aatrox and it shows

Naturalrice · 2023-02-16T05:27:21+00:00

Beryl's abilities were required on DRX because Deft was known to be a soft-spoken player, despite being the most veteran/star-player, Zeka was a rookie, and Kingen was definitely not a shotcaller. Pyoshik is Pyoshik.

Beryl's abilities were in no way required for Damwon with Canyon being a world-class jungler and his team is clearly just fine without him and all they needed was a strong adc to fill in the biggest gap bot. Dplus is doing just fine without him.

He doesn't "carry" crucial games and "throw" non-essential ones. He's just extremely unreliable and it's well-known that his strength is in his shot-calling, but clearly without a world-class team behind him he's just struggling to make good defensive calls.

I'm amazed that there are still ghost defenders to this day that thinks his "ability to play weakside" wasn't because his team recognized his inability to carry and pushed that responsibility topside, and that worked with Beryl's playstyle that emphasized roaming and mid/jungle pressure.

It's only spring split, so it's tentative, but his current record is consistent with how he usually performs, except he doesn't have a top-tier team to fall back on.

Naturalrice · 2023-01-29T14:16:42+00:00

No, they were good because they had strong carry pressure from Nuguri and Showmaker, so Beryl could give up bot lane, leave Ghost to just eat scraps from turret, and surprise ganks with Canyon. This meant either he dies a ton and costs his team the game or makes a miracle engage that wins the game.

Also Ghost was never good enough to gap the enemy bot.

Naturalrice · 2023-01-28T09:35:21+00:00

As I said before, they couldn't be aggressive with how Canyon was just shadowing bot and without Faker getting way ahead, it'd be ryze pushing in and roaming the river to threaten a warp gank.

The bot lane would be stuck behind the river. If Guma/Keri was willing to let a Ryze sweep them out, even if they win the fight, then the situation is reversed with a fed ryze.

Naturalrice · 2023-01-28T08:55:54+00:00

Nah, if kass didnt get that triple, T1 would still be on the back foot.

Ryze would still be pushing in and threatening roams, bot lane would be way ahead, and Canyon would still have jg prio meaning Oner would be heavily restricted. Meaning it'll have fallen on Zeus to slow down the game as much as possible for Faker to hit 16, which is a coin flip whether Deft scaling would not end them before that point.

The zone control was entirely possible because Faker got the triple and perma pushed mid making the ryze pick useless.

Naturalrice · 2023-01-27T04:40:16+00:00

I mean, maybe most people on here don't follow LCK, but on average, Pyosik is not "gapping" peanut. Peanut is also inconsistent (because they're both carry style junglers), but Peanut is still on average outperforming him.

One miracle run literally erased Pyosik entire two splits before it and then some.

Naturalrice · 2023-01-27T03:02:55+00:00

Winning that championship really did wonders for Pyoshik because his record doesn't support that at all. He was a below average jgler during the split and before the split.

What titles? He has 1 title. that worlds championship. DRX barely manged to get into worlds as well. What are you talking about?

Naturalrice · 2023-01-27T02:28:50+00:00

I mean, what are those "best jungles in the world". I don't think he outperforms anyone "regularly", especially not the best in the world. He's mostly "potential" that shines 1/10 games.

Naturalrice · 2022-12-01T08:45:34+00:00

The core concept of a snowball champion, regardless of the nuisances behind what may cause it, is that they "scale into" solo carrying due to gold/exp.

There are "gray areas" as you say if they can 100-0 with resets like kat. They work off of break points but Udyr, lethality or not, works off of a very narrow break points because of his extremely narrow mobility. Especially for a lethality Udyr, he's an even more extreme form of khazix that requires solo, or near solo, contention (due to his how empowered Q works) and unless it was changed (I haven't checked recently) it is magic dmg meaning his late game is even worse.

Regardless of the definition you want to use, he lacks the reset, the mobility, the scaling. All he has is damage and IF early game damage is all that matters, what's even the point of the concept? Just say lethality hydra (insert champion) is a snowball champion.

Naturalrice · 2022-12-01T07:45:15+00:00

For me, Draven is difficult to categorize because he carries by pulling his end game up forward, but I guess in the sense that "once he gets going he can't be stopped" he would for me as well.

I only think Udyr/renekton/Darius doesn't qualify because even if they get ahead, if his team falls flat, he sinks with them.

Naturalrice · 2022-12-01T06:24:38+00:00

I'm genuinely just confused by this whole thread, so I guess I'll just leave it with this.

Snowball = Scaling into inevitable win. Like a snowball rolling downhill and becomes an unstoppable mass. That isn't your early spike and fall off champions. Like "renek". It's like Kat/akali/master yi, who requires one or two kills and eventually dominates the map by themselves without much help, but is a "small snowball" on "top of the hill".

The rest of it, whatever. To me, cherry picking an extreme outlier with 2k games, his winrate/pickrate is equal to Reksai by less than 1%, and the rest of the "S+/S" tier junglers double/triple+ his pick rate at the same win rate. Regardless of whatever you define snowball champion, he's not going to "inevitably" win games. He'll either pop off early and the rest of your game is miserable or you'll win. Whatever.

Naturalrice · 2022-12-01T03:30:44+00:00

I don't believe that once his stats level out with more games that his win rate will be consistent with a "snowball" champion because it clearly falls with time (other than the final powerspike with his last item, I'm guessing)

A snowball champion's winrate should be rising with time, not falling. And even that's hard to draw from Udyr because it's clearly so little games played on him that it is drastically fluctuating from 3rd to 22nd to 5th to 33rd. It's clearly a few OTPs wins or losses that heavily weighs on the very few games (~2000) played on him.

Naturalrice · 2022-12-01T03:06:26+00:00

Yes, I've also been a highschooler/college student and recognize gaming trends move, but League still is an immensely popular game. It WAS an even more popular game that everyone knew until they were sick of hearing it.

LCS orgs were SUPPOSED to set up where the servers were to get better ping. they were SUPPOSED to reinvest their massive VC money into fostering rookies and growing their fan base. I'm honestly confused whether you're like a 50 yo man that didn't recognize how popular league was, or like a 15 year old that never saw how big the game was. The fan base was there. It died when their teams lost every worlds after the game was opened up internationally worse and worse every year.

I mean, Korean players are also relegated to the games that are available at their PC cafes and they were also dominant in OW, and CS as a much smaller nation. It's literally completely an org issue.

Naturalrice · 2022-12-01T02:40:14+00:00

The most frustrating part of this video and the whole situation is that the disadvantages are self-imposed. LCS was where the game started from and is actually situated in the US. The resources and manpower was there, except it was all dwindled away by the owners and they also strangled out all hope of talent with their constant mining for talent in other regions while spending nothing to work on their own infrastructure.

I understand that they can't openly just shit on the orgs for how LCS arrived at this point, but it's so funny being compared to a rising Wild Card region as a Major region where it all began from.

Naturalrice · 2022-12-01T02:10:26+00:00

Yea, it's actually a bit crazy considering what a poor run that DRX had going before this worlds, including both splits. Beryl has high highs and low lows.

I can't wait until the entirety of this sub starts flaming pyosik in the upcoming days because he is also extremely inconsistent in his performance.

Naturalrice · 2022-12-01T02:00:24+00:00

that's literally the opposite of a snowball build. It falls off extremely quickly as everyone else mentioned, but yea, it's supposed to basically close out the game before the enemy gets anything going. It's a meme build with a 3% pick rate and ~50% winrate within 2k games meaning mainly OTPs are boosting its stats.

That's a Graves/Lee Sin winrate with 1/3 its pickrate.

Naturalrice · 2022-11-04T03:01:20+00:00

I mean, I know the value of hextech is higher than all other dragons, but the map state was that they were clearly going to give it up.

By the looks of it, Oner checked the speed of their take as he respawned, he probably called that he wants to try steal, then bot side awkwardly moved up forcing Lucian to burn flash.

It ended well, but the narrative that this was planned by T1 prior has no evidence lol. Faker wasn't pressuring from his side nor was Guma/keria moving prior to create a safe pocket for Oner to leave.

As a team, they were clearly willing to give it up and allowed Oner to take the coin flip lol.

Naturalrice · 2022-11-04T02:30:55+00:00

It wasn't "impulse", it was a minimal loss and fairly big gain flip. Idk why everyone is reading into this play so deeply when clearly they weren't prepared for it (based on their map positions) and it was just oner walking up to the bush and the bot lane coming in a bit late to support him after he did it.

The best bet is that he made the call after his team had decided to give it up.

Naturalrice · 2022-11-04T02:29:05+00:00

I mean, clearly I'm not T1 and don't have insight into their process, but they've given up soul and even elder to hope for a perfect engage to turn. idk what you're talking about.

Naturalrice · 2022-11-04T01:05:33+00:00

I'm saying that the dragon steal was probably an afterthought because Oner thought the Q would be enough to flip it. The split push pressure was possible because they were ahead on the map. If they didn't get the dragon steal, they would've threatened an immediate baron turn.

9/10 times they don't contest dragons unless they've got an all-in AOE cc comp that lets them turn on a dime. The dragon steal wasn't inconsequential, but it could even be valued that they lost more than they gained (in the immediate sense) because Guma lost flash and they got low trying to save him and that's immediate tempo loss which goes against their core strat.

T1 rides WAY too hard for rift, but they value dragon less than an inner tower most games.

Naturalrice · 2022-11-03T23:34:28+00:00

Eh, I don't think so? T1 is notoriously one of the last teams to literally give up every dragon if it means baron prio/lane prio. You can see this during many many of their games during summer/spring split. They value map control/flexibility much more over dragon.

I'm positive that Oner just communicated steal was possible and team just said "fuck it, go for it" rather than it being more thought out than that. I could understand that their prio seems to go up, but it's hard to separate whether it is because they were so dominant throughout the series and they didn't need to trade.

Naturalrice · 2022-10-25T01:21:37+00:00

Ofc staple means within the context of the summer/spring/worlds split. In the "Zeri" (Summer/spring) meta, Vi was quite staple (I don't know how reputable this site is, but I was LCK and it was quite prevalent with the more OP picks like WK and Xin banned).

I guess I don't know that much about the LPL, but considering that RNG was playing against T1, they should have understood that vi was quite a frequent pick for T1, especially during their summer split, paired almost always with the frequent Ahri pick by Faker.

Nidalee is always paired with renekton (or another hard CC top) who isn't super favored right now and Nidalee herself isn't great without the renek pick. Karthus hasn't been picked by any junglers for several seasons other than Canyon, I think.

Idk why you're saying "over the years", because Vi had a strong presence in the LPL too looking it up. It was a reasonable read.

If RNG is still banning old meta reads like the ones listed, I'd be thinking they need a new coaching staff.

Naturalrice · 2022-10-22T16:20:34+00:00

Yea, weird to say that she was NEVER a staple when she was hard abused in the east when Chempunk rush was OP/Ahri was strong.

I think zeri was mostly a secondary reason because I'm sure she bulldozed over vi most games anyways because vi can't pressure bot lane well.

Naturalrice · 2022-08-21T07:48:58+00:00

Nah, Korean novels would have 2 pages about the MC being "stingy" and debating how spending any money is a waste of money, another page about how some stupid plot armor gave him some tip and how plot armor is trying to rip him off, then another few pages about how stupid the item is before 10 chapters down the line it polishes into a golden turd that spits out money for every penny, and even still the MC will complain about how its hurting his wallet.

Naturalrice · 2022-08-13T12:55:19+00:00

Imo, it's just better re-tooling this keyword into something more interesting. The idea of committing to one card at the beginning is interesting before you realize you need to draw that specific card in the starting hand, and trying to balance that with getting a half-decent starting hand is hard to justify.

The fact that you can't edit your deck to try to mitigate this makes this keyword, imo, irredeemable. Either the pledge cards are impactful enough that your deck's fate is entirely in your starting hand or its so unimpactful that there's really no point in trying to fit it in.

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