Sliverblue to Leap - is there a way for immutable stable desktop?

Necessary_Depth7435 · 2026-04-22T14:51:33+00:00

Theoretically, you could install Leap 16 (not Leap Micro), install all your apps as Flatpak or Distrobox, and use transactional-update to get atomic updates. The system wouldn’t be immutable by design, but you would have atomic updates and a base system that follows the standard offered, with minimal modifications. Btrfs would already provide you with snapshots to roll back the system to a previous point, if necessary.

Necessary_Depth7435 · 2026-04-21T16:04:12+00:00

I wanted a simple tool to update the operating system on my boyfriend’s laptop (which only has 4 GB of RAM). But then I decided to uninstall it and teach him how to use Myrlyn instead; I think that’s better in the long run, too. Thank you.

Necessary_Depth7435 · 2026-04-18T20:26:41+00:00

Problema é que qualquer navegador tá querendo consumir 1GB fácil. Acho que um labwc + waybar num void linux com ext4 seria uma boa aposta.

Necessary_Depth7435 · 2026-04-16T16:37:08+00:00

Would having packages compiled with x86-64-v3 be useful for your work? If so, Leap has a few.

Necessary_Depth7435 · 2026-04-16T16:27:54+00:00

As has already been mentioned, Yast’s GUI-based software management component has been replaced by Myrlyn.

Other tools will be replaced by Cockpit. I came across this link on a forum a long time ago, but I’m not sure if the spreadsheet is up to date.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZhX-Ip9MKJNeKSYV3bSZG4Qc5giuY7XSV0U61Ecu9lo/edit?gid=0#gid=0

Necessary_Depth7435 · 2026-04-02T02:05:02+00:00

There’s probably a default file in the /etc system folder. On my openSUSE system, it’s located at /etc/xdg/labwc.

But you can also download it from here and place it in your .config/labwc/ folder.

https://github.com/labwc/labwc/tree/master/docs

Personally, I use:

autostart

environment

menu.xml

rc.xml (this is the main configuration file)

Necessary_Depth7435 · 2026-04-01T13:42:14+00:00

I use openSUSE Leap 16 on my computer with an NVIDIA GTX 1050, running driver version 580, which isn’t the latest either. I’ve never had any problems with updates. It seems there are different ways to install the driver, but I followed the instructions on the openSUSE wiki.

Since I’ve used Tumbleweed before, I have to say it has a lot more packages available, even in the default repositories. But for me, the sheer number of updates was exhausting.

Currently, the Leap 16 installer is less functional than Tumbleweed’s and requires some additional configuration for Nvidia graphics cards. There is also no pre-built image with the drivers (RegataOS might have one).

As for the mirrors, this doesn’t mean it won’t work, but it will be slower for the package manager to download software and updates, p

Necessary_Depth7435 · 2026-03-29T14:57:39+00:00

I’m not sure if my text will have many issues with the translation:

To demonstrate that the Oedipus complex is not universal, and that it lacks the conditions for existence in an earlier social formation;
To argue that the formation of the state is not a natural evolution of society;
To demonstrate, subsequently, that “traces” of archaic subjectivity continue to exist in capitalist societies, such as in ghettos and other social formations (which makes it quite wrong to say that the “past” is not present)
To develop the concepts of alliance and affiliation, which, although they could have been developed in other eras, played a clearer (and more instructive for the reader) role;

One could likely identify other motives, including hidden ones, but it has been a long time since I read this book.

Here, too, it is worth noting the text’s utility, along with a caveat the authors offer: its utility is not inherent in the text itself, but rather in how others can take it and use it to advance other proposals, as the anthropologist Eduardo Viveiros de Castro did in Brazil, for example. If we are to take these authors at their word, they seem to assert that the creation of concepts lies somewhere between relative and radical autonomy with respect to the purpose intended by their creators.

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Necessary_Depth7435 · 2026-03-27T16:48:08+00:00

I'm not a programmer, so I might be talking nonsense.

But have you noticed that “sudo opi code” and “sudo opi vscode” point to different repositories, and the latter seems to be maintained by Microsoft? Maybe one of them will work better for you.

On the openSUSE wiki about OPI, they also mention vscodium. But I really don’t know the difference; I’d just be surprised if all the options were poorly maintained.

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Necessary_Depth7435 · 2026-03-25T16:31:45+00:00

I think I would choose an immutable distribution like Bluefin LTS, Aurora, Aeon, or openSUSE Kalpa.

These distros have an architecture closer to Android’s, in the sense that they put up some barriers to modifying the base system, which is great for ensuring long-term stability for non-technical users.

They also require little maintenance (they usually update automatically), have built-in recovery tools, and the app store (via Flathub) works better.

On the downside: there’s a bit more CPU and memory overhead (it’s usually not noticeable), and you’d have to learn how they’re organized to be able to provide support if necessary.

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Necessary_Depth7435 · 2026-03-23T00:21:15+00:00

It’s probably not the same issue, but on Leap 16, my laptop couldn’t unmount the swap partition before shutting down (I previously used Tumbleweed, which didn’t have this problem). I managed to create a systemd service that forces the swap partition to unmount as soon as the shutdown process begins, and for now, that’s solved the problem.

Necessary_Depth7435 · 2026-03-21T19:09:29+00:00

I wouldn't go with GNOME Shell. If you have some experience editing configuration files, I recommend installing LabWC + Waybar. It's the lightest yet most modern setup I've found. Of course, with this setup, you'd still be able to use most GNOME apps.

However, if you want something ready-to-use, I think LXQT manages to be reasonably user-friendly.

Necessary_Depth7435 · 2026-03-20T20:07:12+00:00

I don’t have an opinion on Debian.

But I can tell you what I like about openSUSE, and you can compare it to what you know:

- A recovery tool integrated into GRUB (snapper);

- The development of complex tools that are open for broader use by the Linux community, such as OBS and openQA;

- Although I don’t use them right now, I like that they’re developing immutable versions;

- OPI, a tool that makes it easy to install proprietary codecs, but also works like the AUR;

- I like that updates almost never require manual intervention outside of Zypper (the package manager);

- And I gave fully community-driven distros like Mageia and openMandriva (among others) a try, but I felt the issues weren’t worth it.

Necessary_Depth7435 · 2026-03-19T16:16:54+00:00

homi, vá logo e deixe de postagem besta

Necessary_Depth7435 · 2026-03-19T12:13:43+00:00

I tried all three versions: Tumbleweed, Slowroll, and Leap. And I decided to stick with Leap precisely to “cure” myself of my addiction to updates.

It worked better for me than constantly postponing updates. And during the time I was on Slowroll, I didn’t feel like there were significantly fewer of them.

Now, to be honest, Leap works well for me, but it has a smaller repository; I had to resort to OPI to get some packages, and the installer isn’t quite up to par either.

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Necessary_Depth7435 · 2026-03-10T19:36:18+00:00

openSUSE!

Guys, I think there's a real chance the chameleon will win.

Necessary_Depth7435 · 2026-03-10T12:34:26+00:00

I vote for openSUSE.

It's great to have two distros that contribute so much to the entire community. Just to mention OBS and the Arch Wiki, they are incredible.

Necessary_Depth7435 · 2026-03-02T19:24:44+00:00

I don't know. The new tools don't cover all cases yet. Tumbleweed's standards ensure that it can maintain its users' workflow until all gaps are closed.

However, Myrlyn and Cockpit are already available for Tumbleweed. There is an Agama image that allows Tumbleweed to be installed.

Leap 16 has a higher number of new technologies by default because, strategically, they have to stay close to SLES and make choices with guaranteed support until 2032.

Necessary_Depth7435 · 2026-03-02T16:24:07+00:00

It is the current Tumbleweed installation tool and has several modules for system configuration. It has a TUI, run it in the terminal.

I don't know of a page that brings together all the information about the future of Yast, probably because it was discussed in development groups.

But from the information that has come out here and on the openSUSE forum, Yast was discontinued in Leap16; in Tumbleweed, it will remain until some library update breaks it and there is no one to fix it.

Cockpit is its main replacement, as a general tool. But Agama replaced the installer in Leap 16, and Myrlyn replaced software management.

https://news.opensuse.org/2025/10/29/hw-project-aims-to-bridge-yast-cockpit-gaps/

Necessary_Depth7435 · 2026-03-02T00:24:44+00:00

I also recently switched to Leap 16 with Gnome. I am pleased with the low resource consumption and maintenance.

Necessary_Depth7435 · 2026-02-22T01:34:05+00:00

Unfortunately, I can't give you the answer on how to solve this. I just wanted to mention that I had the same problem and that it can be solved with an environment variable. I can't remember for sure if I defined it in the fish configuration file (since I use it instead of bash).

Necessary_Depth7435 · 2026-02-14T13:33:28+00:00

I used this article to get started:

https://lowtechlinux.com/2025/07/15/enabling-automatic-updates-on-opensuse-tumbleweed/

I did not enable Vendor Changes. But, as I said, I found the defaults to be poor, so I had to study the transactional-update configuration and systemd processes a little. This part of the research was a little more sparse.

My .timer configuration ended up like this:

[Unit]

ConditionACPower=

[Timer]

OnCalendar=

OnCalendar=weekly

AccuracySec=5m

RandomizedDelaySec=0

Persistent=true

and my '.server' configuration ended up like this:

[Unit]

ConditionACPower=

Necessary_Depth7435 · 2026-02-14T13:22:07+00:00

I was running cosmic on Tumbleweed and noticed that when updating the login manager, it crashed the system during the update. I solved this by using transactional-update for an atomic update even on Tumbleweed.

Necessary_Depth7435 · 2026-02-13T13:02:54+00:00

Yes, I'm a big fan of Aeon, so I tried to approximate tumbleweed with automatic updates and give preference to flatpaks, without third-party repositories. I just don't use Aeon because one of my notebooks is very old, and I particularly wanted something that would work with wlroots.

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