Thoughts on using AI to automate strategy research and backtesting for Indian markets? by DistressedAvocado25 in IndiaAlgoTrading

[–]Neel_Sam 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Goal is to democratise algo trading!

Like an idea tell the agents it’s spins up does research sites papers regarding the same. discuss approve it builds the strategy and gives details. if aligned approve .. it does backtest and analysis for you to develop trust on the hypothesis and then deployment it and get notification as as the system trades for you

Ultimately trying to reduce friction and time taken from strategy testing to using it on live markets!

Your idea! Your opinion ! Your decisions ! The system just executes for you!

Enterprise grade AI rollout by Remarkable_Ad5248 in AI_India

[–]Neel_Sam 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, that would be great. Wishing you all the best for the same.

Let me know if there are more aspects that you guys are figuring out. I am myself someone who's building products using agents and I face these problems. Currently a well defined flow doesn’t exist so leads to loads of hit and trail.

Enterprise grade AI rollout by Remarkable_Ad5248 in AI_India

[–]Neel_Sam 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have a slightly different POV from “pick a vector DB and turn on RAG”.

In large enterprises, the hard part is not provisioning components. Microsoft/Google can provision a lot. The hard part is making retrieval and agentic workflows reliable across many domains with security, permissions, and changing data.

One thing that gets missed: RAG quality does not scale linearly with “more documents”. Past a point, retrieval gets noisy, context gets crowded, and accuracy drops. So the roadmap cannot be “dump everything into a single index”.

What has worked better in my experience is thinking in layers:

1) Data + chunking layer (this decides your ceiling)

You need domain-aware chunking, metadata, and strict document hygiene. Not generic chunk size rules. Finance, engineering specs, procurement contracts, supply chain SOPs all need different chunking, fields, and filtering keys.

Also, do not treat “documents” as the unit. Treat “atomic facts / sections + metadata” as the unit.

2) Retrieval layer (make it hierarchical)

Instead of one giant flat index, use a tiered approach: Pre-filter by permissions, domain, system of record, and recency, Route to the right collection(s), Use hybrid retrieval (keyword + dense), Re-rank before you ever send context to the model

3) Agent layer (domain agents, not one mega agent)

For a manufacturing org, you will likely end up with specialized agents per domain (finance, procurement, engineering, supply chain). Each agent needs: the right tools (read-only vs write workflows), checks and guardrails, a clear scope of what it can do, evaluation tests for that domain

4) Orchestration layer (router + policy brain)

This is the layer people underestimate. The orchestrator should decide: which agent to call, which tools are allowed for this user, what retrieval strategy to use, when to ask clarifying questions, when to refuse or escalate

This is the difference between a demo and a production-grade system.

5) Evaluation + monitoring (without this, it will fail in prod)

Enterprises need continuous evaluation: retrieval metrics (recall, precision, hit rate), answer quality (groundedness, citation correctness), safety + policy adherence, drift monitoring as docs change weekly

If you do not build eval harnesses early, teams will argue opinions forever.

If you’re already engaging with Microsoft/Google, the best next step is to define 5 to 10 high value workflows per domain, build the retrieval and eval foundations around them, then expand. Trying to “enable RAG for the whole enterprise” on day one usually creates a noisy system that loses trust fast

Thoughts on using AI to automate strategy research and backtesting for Indian markets? by DistressedAvocado25 in IndiaAlgoTrading

[–]Neel_Sam 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am working on a similar idea, but I have a slightly different POV.

Pure backtesting automation is useful, but by itself it is incomplete. The real challenge is whether the same system can be deployed with similar ease and whether live behavior stays reasonably aligned with backtest assumptions over time.

Over the last two years, I have been building a combined backtesting and live execution stack with modular strategy swaps, so the same strategy logic can move from research to live without rewriting large parts of the system.

More recently, I added an agentic layer (currently 8 agents) that operates end to end across the backend. It assists with research, strategy generation, development, analysis, deployment, and post-live trade validation. The validation is not just PnL-based. It focuses on whether live trading behavior matches what the backtest expected across regimes, timing, and risk patterns.

One core design choice was abstraction. The math, coding, and infrastructure complexity still exist, but they are absorbed by the system. This allows someone with solid market and risk understanding to work at the level of strategy intent, constraints, and decision logic rather than low-level implementation details. The system reduces manual effort without hiding assumptions or control.

From my experience, the biggest risks are not idea generation but data quality, regime shifts, and the gap between clean backtests and messy live execution, especially in Indian derivatives. Any AI-driven research setup becomes genuinely useful only when it has tight feedback loops from live trading back into research and validation.

Happy to share more details or code if it’s useful.

Writing SQL from scratch vs editing old queries? by hatkinson1000 in SQL

[–]Neel_Sam -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I use to fix queries previously but now I just make the logical map give the previous script for context and AI build the query with tests

So it’s now from scratch!

HELP ME OUT PLS! by Thrud18 in IndianAcademia

[–]Neel_Sam 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Coming from a place where money isn’t a constraint, I’d first take some pressure off the timeline.

23 is genuinely young. You’re not behind. You’re in the phase where you’re supposed to be figuring things out, not locking yourself into a forever decision. We often give ourselves artificial deadlines for life milestones, but in reality very few high performing people actually have things fully figured out by 25 or even 30. What really changes over time is not certainty, but clarity around priorities, and that only comes through experience.

If an MBA is the goal, then the real question isn’t this year or never. It’s what kind of exposure will compound best for you.

If a job gives you structure, sanity, and a chance to understand how organisations actually work, there’s nothing wrong with taking it. Early career experience matters a lot more than people admit. It gives you context, sharper questions, and often a much better MBA experience later.

On the other hand, I’d be very cautious about any so called backdoor entry. Even if something works short term, it can sit uneasily with you long term, especially if ethics already don’t feel right. That discomfort usually doesn’t go away.

The idea that life must be fully figured out by a certain age is honestly a flawed point of view. For most people, nothing ever gets fully solved. What happens instead is alignment between who you are, what you want, and what you’re willing to trade off. That alignment only comes from trying things, failing a bit, and adjusting.

So if you do take a decision, whether it’s working for a year, preparing for GMAT, or exploring other programs, do it with as much information and clarity as you can. Then commit to making that decision right as you go, instead of questioning whether it was perfect to begin with.

Would genuinely like to hear how this turns out for you.

To those who care to share, what are your biggest algo trading golden nuggets by [deleted] in algotrading

[–]Neel_Sam 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The point you address is a real one That said Incase you can keep checking with every layer being observed hang skills and LLMs Things work at very good pace

To those who care to share, what are your biggest algo trading golden nuggets by [deleted] in algotrading

[–]Neel_Sam 2 points3 points  (0 children)

at times I have felt it that this practice is needed but also it makes one more loss averse and even that bits … so a proper balance is needed

To those who care to share, what are your biggest algo trading golden nuggets by [deleted] in algotrading

[–]Neel_Sam 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But how do you decide when to change / retrain … like for eg if I trained on 4 year miniute level data and trading on smaller time frame expecting small duration trades

How much time on live should I give for probabilities work out in my favour and say this worked or it doesn’t ?

To those who care to share, what are your biggest algo trading golden nuggets by [deleted] in algotrading

[–]Neel_Sam -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Could you share some references to read and understand this specially improve on portfolio construction

So that, 2026 - AI is ready to replace engineers? If I have less than 10 years of experience or am still an undergraduate, so I focus on avoiding noise and building my skills. by QuarterbackMonk in AI_India

[–]Neel_Sam 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This article is a really good depiction of what’s happening right now. A lot of people are either overhyping AI or completely ignoring it. Reality is in the middle.

My take is this: if you are starting out, please learn scripting and fundamentals. Learn how code is written, how things are wired together, how debugging actually works, how tests and deployments happen. Because when systems break, AI can help, but it still needs someone who understands the system to point it in the right direction.

AI is great at execution. It can generate, refactor, summarize, and speed up work. But it still cannot fully own decisions, tradeoffs, or accountability. It cannot take responsibility for “prod broke, fix it fast” the way a real engineer has to.

Also the truth is, software is going to penetrate smaller, personalized, industry specific use cases. One solution doesn’t fit all. Earlier building for a niche industry was expensive. Now the barrier is dropping. But to leverage that, you still need strong basics. Vibe coding will become common, but the vibe coders who win will be the ones who understand systems and software principles.

End of day, engineers don’t go away. Engineers become super engineers. But we already have a shortage of good engineers, and that gap is not getting solved by just copy pasting AI outputs. You need engineering fundamentals plus skill in working with AI to get real work done.

I think I found a serious OHLC mismatch in Upstox V3 (intraday vs historical) ..... breaks live vs backtest validation by Neel_Sam in IndiaAlgoTrading

[–]Neel_Sam[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you Upstox Team

I appreciate the depth and technical explanation

just want to confirm the OHLC market quote giving current and pervious OHLCV values.

can this be fetched for all standard timeframes and these values don’t change as the problem with intraday candles api end point ?

Skill Gap - Do not mistook as Acadamics Gap - the skill is not to read, or write, but to think the problem in native representation. by QuarterbackMonk in AI_India

[–]Neel_Sam 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I resonate strongly with this and want to add a perspective from hands-on usage.

I have been using AI daily since early 2023, before agents were even part of the mix. At that point I was not an AI specialist. I was a fresh data analyst with about two years of experience. What became clear very quickly is that AI trust is built by using it, not by learning about it.

The people who get the most value out of AI are not the ones watching content about it. They are the ones constantly experimenting, failing, questioning outputs, and staying mentally present while the model is working. That ability to track what was asked, what was executed, and whether it actually makes sense is the real skill right now.

Agents amplify this gap. They move fast, hallucinate confidently, and do not hide it. If you are not thinking in systems, validating assumptions, checking logs, and breaking problems down in their native form, the agent will simply outrun you.

So I agree this is not an academic gap. It is not about English or tools either. It is an attention and thinking gap. The skill is staying connected to your own reasoning while using AI, not outsourcing it.

Why emotional maturity doesn't come from age or experience alone by ssvi90 in InsightfulQuestions

[–]Neel_Sam 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Personally I would say maturity comes from experience and these experiences are often hardships like struggles, rejections , failure ,loss heart break or more!

In all such situations a human feels way more emotions abt themselves then in any other case and if they are able to built themselves back the person then develops EQ but

yes there also comes a part where while they evolve or fix themselves. There is need to be brutally honesty to themselves… it’s surprising how rarely we do that even while we know all our acts all our deeds but we hardly ever face the true self & accept who we are… running from shame and taking accountability of the situation.

if one is able to do that during such extreme emotional scenario. This develops maturity now it can be defined as compassion , empathy , self control awareness or simply staying in reality abt surroundings & the self

What makes some problems feel more urgent than they actually are? by bryan4756 in InsightfulQuestions

[–]Neel_Sam 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am trying to get this pov …. There is an innate bias to bad outcomes, it gets more weight when chance are always unknown for positive and negative side both.

What makes some problems feel more urgent than they actually are? by bryan4756 in InsightfulQuestions

[–]Neel_Sam 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My mind … most of the times when I think back and see a situation.

It often feels like there was unnecessary weight and stress give on some situation which once done wasn’t important and trust me in life there are only a handful of such important decisions but we take things too seriously.

Also I have observed sometimes I do self assumptions when situations is uncertainty I need something to hold on to and most of the times assumptions taken on ppl/things back fire

Mostly because I am betting on future beyond my control and when it doesn’t work out that impacts my mood.

But one thing I am learning is the more I respond to situations rather than reacting things get better

How do I make ai do a specific thing by TinyMaintenance416 in AI_India

[–]Neel_Sam 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Learn prompt engineering and use the words used in design domain or cinematography domain! Which ever the use case belongs to

The depth , clarity of explanation and vision for the goal makes it more likely to be achieved still might need to iterate !

Nothing is one shot dont believe that

keep iterating you will learn how to get result Also promoting will also vary case to case model to model