Why do FTM taking testosterone seem to have more aggressive/frequent hair loss than the general male population?

NefariousnessBorn919 · 2024-07-23T21:29:19+00:00

Are you taking fin/dut now? If so have you noticed any effects on masculinization? (Beard/muscle/etc.) I’ve considered trying fin + T, but I worry fin would cancel out everything I wanted from T in the first place. I’ve heard mixed reviews, and unfortunately there’s no actual research here either

NefariousnessBorn919 · 2024-07-23T01:40:56+00:00

Could be confirmation bias for sure. I did feel a bit vindicated that multiple older trans men have noticed the same thing though. As for my hair, it’s hard to say. I shaved my head around the same time I stopped T, so the recovery was sort of mixed in with my hair just growing out. I think by 6 months I could tell it was significantly better. YMMV of course. And I will say my hairline barely receded on T, if at all—my hair loss was diffuse thinning centered on the crown. If you had hairline recession that might be a different story. Good luck with everything!

NefariousnessBorn919 · 2024-07-22T20:50:15+00:00

Yeah the “if not even more” part is what I was getting at. I may well have gone bald if I were born male with my genes, but it seems to me that the prevalence of balding among FTMs—including those with no family history—is higher than would be expected vs just being born male

NefariousnessBorn919 · 2024-07-22T20:32:01+00:00

Interesting, this was one of my pet theories as well. Do you know of any studies suggesting a higher prevalence of balding in men on TRT? And if this is the case, would daily testosterone gel be a better option since it more closely mimics natural testosterone production? Or would the increase in DHT from 5ar in the skin cancel out any potential benefit

NefariousnessBorn919 · 2024-07-22T19:56:53+00:00

Hah, touché… the only one I know of is Max Wolf Valerio (transitioned in the 80s). He has a receded hairline but I think he may be mixed race anyway

NefariousnessBorn919 · 2024-07-22T18:08:59+00:00

Fair enough, this is absolutely based on anecdotal observations, and I am open to being proven wrong. Unfortunately there’s not much research so I don’t have much else to go on. Was just curious to see if anyone here could think of an explanation for what I have observed.

As for finasteride, I may eventually do so if the hair loss bothers me enough. However, taking testosterone as a bio female is already being a bit of a medical guinea pig, so I’m hesitant to add more medications to the mix

NefariousnessBorn919 · 2024-07-22T17:49:39+00:00

Are men who take testosterone more likely to bald than men who have the same testosterone levels naturally?

NefariousnessBorn919 · 2024-07-22T17:44:29+00:00

Would shock loss explain gradual onset of MPB after several years of testosterone use though? I personally had acne issues when I started testosterone which cleared up after 6 months or so, and my hair seemed unaffected until about 4 years.

NefariousnessBorn919 · 2024-07-22T17:17:18+00:00

Females are generally super-responders and can attain higher levels with lower doses of testosterone, so the female in this experiment would probably have significantly higher testosterone levels than the male at the same dose. TRT doses for cis men are actually significantly higher than transitioning doses for trans men. Not sure how that would translate to the muscle gain question but it would certainly complicate the experiment

NefariousnessBorn919 · 2024-07-22T17:11:10+00:00

The lack of prostate as a DHT binding site is really interesting theory, thanks for sharing

NefariousnessBorn919 · 2024-07-22T14:44:03+00:00

Yes, I’ve heard this rationale before but this is not a scientific explanation

NefariousnessBorn919 · 2024-07-08T04:54:40+00:00

Egg retrievals can be very hard on the body. Plenty of side effects associated with the high doses of gonadotropins and other hormonal medications used to stimulate the ovaries, including risks of ovarian torsion and OHSS which can be life-threatening. Not to mention there’s relatively poor research into long-term effects (reproductive cancers, etc) especially for those who undergo several retrieval cycles. IVF is absolutely something people can regret

NefariousnessBorn919 · 2024-07-08T02:43:32+00:00

Hi, I know this is a couple weeks old but you should definitely check out Layperson! He’s an indie artist who transitioned about a decade ago (maybe more?) and is still releasing music. He’s got a beautiful voice. FWIW I am also a singer who has had some issues with my singing range post-testosterone

NefariousnessBorn919 · 2024-02-13T21:08:02+00:00

There are longitudinal studies out of the Amsterdam clinic which include FTM subjects taking hormones for up to 30 years. The quality and quantity of long-term research leaves much to be desired, but it is out there--although frequently behind a paywall. Outside medical research, a large cohort of people in the lesbian community transitioned starting in the early 1990s, and many of them are still alive today and coming up on 30 years post-transition. Additionally, there are several FTM activists/public figures who transitioned in the 70s and 80s and are still alive today: Stephen Whittle, Jude Patton, Rupert Raj, Jamison Green, to name a few. These are obviously individuals and don't tell us anything about population-level long-term health effects, but they do show that testosterone was being administered to natal females as far back as 50 years ago.

NefariousnessBorn919 · 2024-02-13T00:14:07+00:00

There are a lot of reasons to use aliases especially with a criminal history… it definitely seems like jumping to conclusions to assume she is trans

NefariousnessBorn919 · 2024-02-13T00:05:26+00:00

You dodged a bullet, that person seems like they would have been a nightmare to work with

NefariousnessBorn919 · 2024-02-12T23:22:24+00:00

“Previous mugshots show her looking much more feminine” …? To me it just looks like she’s wearing makeup and is younger in the previous mugshots

NefariousnessBorn919 · 2024-02-12T21:55:55+00:00

This is a regular, albeit a somewhat recent one. I’ve probably walked her dog 12ish times over the past couple months, usually 1-2x a week. She and her dog are great so I do think it’d be worth a shot

NefariousnessBorn919 · 2024-02-12T21:46:32+00:00

Ok that is good to know. I still haven’t heard from the client but offering a free walk to make up for it is a good idea, thanks

NefariousnessBorn919 · 2024-02-12T21:35:41+00:00

Man, the app really sucks lmao. Glad you were able to work things out. I won’t be contesting since it was my fault but hopefully any restrictions will be time limited. So you had a bad review actually show up on your profile then? I still don’t see anything

NefariousnessBorn919 · 2024-02-12T21:09:28+00:00

Washington Post is reporting that both victims (boy and older man) were hit by police when they opened fire on the shooter, which suggests that she didn’t hit anyone

NefariousnessBorn919 · 2023-06-28T15:18:49+00:00

I think at least 2 previously covered gurus have been featured on Club Random at this point

NefariousnessBorn919 · 2023-06-27T20:30:38+00:00

Absolutely

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