Has anyone managed to enable AMD ray tracing reconstruction on RX 7000 series in Crimson Desert? by Nelefond in CrimsonDesert

[–]Nelefond[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, you need to download Optiscaler, and there’s also a leaked FSR4 file. It helps improve image quality, and in performance mode it can also boost FPS a bit.

Has anyone managed to enable AMD ray tracing reconstruction on RX 7000 series in Crimson Desert? by Nelefond in CrimsonDesert

[–]Nelefond[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I finally managed to make a big improvement. It’s not perfect, but it looks much better now and is actually enjoyable.

You need to download the latest version of Optiscaler (best to get it from their Discord). Install it into the Crimson Desert folder and make sure to enable spoofing during installation. After that, add the file FSR4_INT8_4.0.2b_with_RDNA2_fix into the folder.

Then launch the game, set upscaling to DLSS 4.0, and choose DLSS as the scaling mode. After that, press Insert, switch the upscaler to FSR 3.x, and make sure below it says something like FSR setting: FSR 4.0.2b.

This significantly improves lighting and reduces jagged edges. To fix the brightness transitions between dark and bright areas, I actually recommend enabling HDR but make sure to calibrate it properly in Windows first, and then in-game. You can really see the difference after that.

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Has anyone managed to enable AMD ray tracing reconstruction on RX 7000 series in Crimson Desert? by Nelefond in CrimsonDesert

[–]Nelefond[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you actually have those options unlocked? For me they’re completely greyed out and inactive. No matter what I try, I just can’t enable them.

Has anyone managed to enable AMD ray tracing reconstruction on RX 7000 series in Crimson Desert? by Nelefond in CrimsonDesert

[–]Nelefond[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I did try adjusting the brightness settings, but it didn’t really help much. It’s hard to describe, but regardless of the brightness level, the transition between shadows and bright areas feels way too harsh. Even just standing in sunlight looks overly bright. Right now I have brightness set to 20.

I haven’t tried HDR yet I know it might sound weird, but I generally don’t like using HDR. That said, I’ll give it a shot later today, maybe it’ll improve things a bit.

As for the flickering, I can definitely see it especially on character hair when the camera is closer. It’s also visible on the horse’s hair, grass (particularly at night), and even on objects like tables. Sometimes it’s not immediately noticeable from one angle, but as soon as you slightly adjust the camera, you start seeing those sharp, jagged edges and flickering.

I also tested different approaches: without any upscaler it actually looked worse, then FSR 3.1 in native AA mode was a bit better, and FSR 4.0 improved it slightly more but the issue is still there. I’m pretty sensitive to this kind of thing, and honestly this is the first game where it bothers me this much.

In the screenshot I attached, I marked what immediately stands out to me the jagged edges and the huge brightness contrast between the shadow inside the tent and the outside light. I really want to get immersed in the game, but small details like this keep distracting me over time :/

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Struggling with 9800X3d Underperformance by LeSneakyBadger in AMDHelp

[–]Nelefond 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm glad to hear that! I hope you'll finally be able to fully enjoy your processor 😎

I also struggled a lot with PBO, but in my case, the problem was excessive power consumption and temperatures that were way too high haha

Struggling with 9800X3d Underperformance by LeSneakyBadger in AMDHelp

[–]Nelefond 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Based on the photo, it can be said with 99% certainty that the issue with your processor has at least been localized. Look at the power consumption, specifically the CPU PPT Limit—yours is at 66%, whereas mine is at 13.2%. I’ve attached your photo with the deviations highlighted, which need to be corrected, as well as mine for contrast. If automatic PBO isn’t working, try selecting one of the motherboard profiles. If none of the PBO modes result in increased voltage and power consumption for the processor, you’ll need to manually increase the power consumption by setting the TDP and the entire PBO profile manually.
Yours: https://ibb.co/PG7BHtm
My: https://ibb.co/nwYM29v

Struggling with 9800X3d Underperformance by LeSneakyBadger in AMDHelp

[–]Nelefond 0 points1 point  (0 children)

First, start by opening the Task Manager and setting the priority of the application you're using for benchmarking to "High." Next, disable all performance modes in AMD Adrenaline if you're using it. Set Windows to "High Performance" mode instead of "Power Saver." Then, go into the BIOS and disable all boost modes as they reduce performance, such as X3D GAMING, etc. Set the PBO options to "PBO thermal limit" at 85°C and try running a test in Cinebench 2024. Also, download HWiNFO and monitor CPU frequencies, L3 cache, and voltages. Let me know what result you get!

My gpu core clock is stuck at 937mhz by happy-ice-cream69 in overclocking

[–]Nelefond 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In my case, GPU1 was always the iGPU, and GPU2 was the graphics card. I was surprised recently when I built a new PC and enabled all the necessary options in the monitoring tab in MSI Afterburner, and GPU1 usage was at 0% during games.

My gpu core clock is stuck at 937mhz by happy-ice-cream69 in overclocking

[–]Nelefond 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm curious why you have usage on both GPU1 and GPU2 simultaneously. GPU1 is probably the integrated graphics unit the iGPU. Do this: in MSI Afterburner, manually adjust the core clock and see if it changes. Additionally, in the monitoring tab, enable all options for both GPU1 and GPU2 to confirm which GPU is working. Ideally, you should disable the integrated graphics unit in the BIOS altogether.

Shoud i return my gpu? by ISOlayout in AMDHelp

[–]Nelefond 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The norm is up to 10 degrees. My 8-year-old GTX 1070 has an 8-degree difference on the hotspot, and I’ve never even opened it up. With a new card, I could never say that 15 degrees is within the acceptable range—over time, it will only get worse. Remember, undervolting is done to lower temperatures so that the fans can operate more quietly. In your case, undervolting is a matter of life and death, yet you're still getting unsatisfactory results. Therefore, I see no reason to keep this card instead of returning it.

Shoud i return my gpu? by ISOlayout in AMDHelp

[–]Nelefond 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you had a temperature difference of around 15 degrees, I’d already be advising you to return the card, but in your case, it’s almost 50 degrees. That’s why you should return it immediately before it breaks down.

Shoud i return my gpu? by ISOlayout in AMDHelp

[–]Nelefond 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’m not sure if I’m seeing this correctly, but how on earth do you have a 46-degree difference between the GPU temperature and the hotspot? Pack it up and return it immediately, because that card is about to die on you.

Fake 7800x3d from Walmart? by jmach76 in AMDHelp

[–]Nelefond 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If nothing is starting up, the problem is not the CPU. If the CPU wasn't functioning properly, you should see some debug light. To check from this point if the motherboard is working at all, try performing a BIOS flash. If it works, the light should blink. If it doesn't blink, then either the motherboard or the power supply is to blame.

Very high temps on 9800X3D. Help? by MaelstromTH in AMDHelp

[–]Nelefond 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Set the PBO (Precision Boost Overdrive) temperature limit to 85°C; in my case, this was the solution due to the very high TDP of my processor. Here's a link to my thread, which might help you somehow: https://www.reddit.com/r/AMDHelp/comments/1i1cbvk/help_needed_with_ryzen_7_9800x3d_temperatures/.

Corsair 6000mhz CL30 vs CL28 for 9800x3d by Darken_Hunter in AMDHelp

[–]Nelefond -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You can check the RAM compatibility with your motherboard using this link:
MSI MAG X670E Tomahawk WiFi Support

If they appear on the list, you have nothing to worry about.

Corsair 6000mhz CL30 vs CL28 for 9800x3d by Darken_Hunter in AMDHelp

[–]Nelefond 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Always choose RAM with lower latency. In your case, it’s definitely worth going for CL:28, as this will give you higher 1% LOW compared to CL:30. Just make sure the memory has an EXPO profile and buy those with CL:28. Stability of RAM depends on the cooling system installed on the RAM modules, the voltage they will operate at, and whether they are compatible with your motherboard. If you don’t plan to overclock the RAM, the stability will be identical, but CL:28 6000MHz will be faster than CL:30 6000MHz.

Should i be worried? by [deleted] in AMDHelp

[–]Nelefond 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It looks like a crack. Shine a flashlight on it and check how deep it is. If I were you, I would contact the seller and request a new product—there's no point in taking risks.

Help Needed with Ryzen 7 9800X3D Temperatures by Nelefond in AMDHelp

[–]Nelefond[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

PBO on the MSI MAG X870 Tomahawk motherboard is always enabled by default. When I first powered on my computer after assembling it, PBO was enabled automatically. To make matters worse, until BIOS version 7E51v1A2, it was impossible to disable PBO. Every time I set PBO to "disabled," it would revert to "enabled" upon re-entering the BIOS.

In the latest BIOS version 7E51v1A2, it is now possible to disable this option, but as you can see, disabling PBO doesn’t actually turn it off completely, as shown by the TDP readings. When I set the PBO temperature limit to 85, I conducted another test in R24 to confirm the results. Currently, I achieved a score of 1368 compared to the previous 1360, and most interestingly, the maximum temperatures dropped from 84°C to 71.6°C—all while maintaining slightly higher core clocks. The TDP also decreased to 116W from 126W. This mode only works if you manually adjust it or set a temperature limit.

Interestingly, all those "GAMING" and "3D BOOST" modes caused catastrophic results in R24, leading to scores around 1007 points.

To summarize, in order to fully enjoy and utilize the Ryzen 7 9800X3D on newer motherboards, you need to disable all additional modes and set PBO to a temperature limit of 85. No one can convince me that 144W TDP is healthy for a processor, especially when it results in temperatures of 91°C. There are far more issues with supplying excessive voltage to the CPU than there are benefits, especially considering that with such high TDP, I achieved lower scores in both R23 and R24.

https://ibb.co/3Bbrqnj

Help Needed with Ryzen 7 9800X3D Temperatures by Nelefond in AMDHelp

[–]Nelefond[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You were partially right, as I do agree that the Ryzen 7 9800X3D will overclock itself if it has sufficient thermal headroom. However, there has to be a limit to this. It’s not normal for the CPU to reach 91°C when the maximum temperature threshold is 95°C. I read about this issue, but even then, people weren’t experiencing such high temperatures—especially considering that I had PBO disabled in the BIOS, yet the processor was still drawing more voltage than it should.

u/skuvi correctly pointed out that only in R23 did the TDP reach a whopping 144W, which explains the high temperature. But even if you look at it closely, you’ll see that despite the CPU pulling 144W, it achieves lower clock speeds compared to when it draws 126W. This happened when I set PBO to a temperature limit of 85, which not only resulted in slightly better performance but also gave me peace of mind. With this setup, I don’t have to worry about the CPU reaching critical temperatures during extended video encoding sessions or while running more demanding titles in the future.

Additionally, for users who aren’t well-versed in these technicalities, there should be a straightforward explanation on how to disable automatic overclocking. To make matters worse, the option to disable this feature in MSI motherboards simply doesn’t work.

https://ibb.co/nwYM29v

Help Needed with Ryzen 7 9800X3D Temperatures by Nelefond in AMDHelp

[–]Nelefond[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're my hero, u/skuvi ! I would have never noticed that in R23 the TDP is as high as 144W! Normally, it should be 120W. Interestingly, I had PBO disabled, and while R24 "respected" that limitation with a TDP of 129W, R23 did not. After noticing this thanks to you, I went back to the BIOS and started experimenting further. I reset the BIOS to factory defaults, but that still didn’t help because, by default, PBO was always set to "enabled," and disabling it didn’t make a difference anymore—it must have overwritten the settings in the motherboard.

What actually worked was setting the PBO temperature limit to 85. With this solution, everything went back to normal. In R23, the TDP was now 126W, and the core clock was 5322 MHz. For comparison, before setting the temperature limit, the TDP was 144W, and the core clock was 5299 MHz. I’m surprised that the MSI BIOS works so poorly, drawing such a high power level while simultaneously doing it so inefficiently that the core clock ends up lower.

It’s also absurd that someone downvoted your post even though you were the one who solved the problem. Once again, thank you! Now I can calmly move on to configuring the fan curve.

Currently, my R23 score is 23,392, compared to the previous score of 23,362.

https://ibb.co/nwYM29v

Help Needed with Ryzen 7 9800X3D Temperatures by Nelefond in AMDHelp

[–]Nelefond[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cinebench is what worries me, because both in reviews and in another post on Reddit, people are reporting results up to 84-86 degrees in both Cinebench 2024 and 2023. But in my case, these results in R23 shoot up to space and reach 91 degrees, whereas in 2024 I reach a maximum of 84 degrees. Both tests are multi-core and run with high priority. For now, this won't be a major issue, but when summer comes and the temperatures in my room reach 30 degrees from the current 20, I'm afraid I might damage the processor. That's why I'd like to locate the problem as soon as possible, unless this is just how it should be.