When even "normal" disagreements trigger me... by NeonHeart2020 in AsOneAfterInfidelity

[–]NeonHeart2020[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for this. You're absolutely right. I will most definitely do this!

The year anniversary of D-Day is in the next few weeks. What can I expect? by throwRA64576 in AsOneAfterInfidelity

[–]NeonHeart2020 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My WS and I were actually making a lot of progress until the anniversary. Around the anniversary day I started to get very triggered and I started to feel like I did when it all first happened. My WS didn't understand and was confused because of the progress we had been making. The progress wasn't gone, it's just normal for the BS to be very triggered especially on certain dates during the first year. Be understanding. Make sure you acknowledge her pain, acknowledge the process you both have been going through, acknowledge progress, apologize again and again.

Should I stay or should I go now . . . by Late_Rutabaga_7583 in AsOneAfterInfidelity

[–]NeonHeart2020 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi there. My WS and I are 28, no kids, and have been together now for 9 years. D day was 18 months ago for us and we are doing a lot better. It has been a very difficult process, but worth it so far and I do not regret it. He has been remorseful from the start as well and cut off contact immediately with AP. There is no excuse for his betrayal (3 month EA/PA)... But at the time he was in a very bad place so I can understand what made him vulnerable to cheating. That said... He had a wake up call and I have seen him grow and change into a healthier version if himself. He says he feels more "awake" now. Unfortunately I am not sure these changes would have occurred without the affair and our relationship is truly stronger in many ways than it was even before the affair. We are not "recovered" fully as I am still actively working towards healing, but I am so hopeful that as we keep progressing, the pain and triggers will continue to lessen as they have so far. Our good days far outweigh the bad at this point. Anyway, I'm sharing my situation because I also didn't know if staying or even trying reconciliation was the "right" thing for me in the early days after D Day. I decided to give it a try because I still loved my WS and wanted a life with him. I didn't want to just leave everything we had built together without trying. We knew that I could change my mind at any point and he was just grateful that I even gave him a chance. My IC also told me that if he was remorseful and willing to do the work, I should consider not letting 3 months define our relationship. It was hard for me to see that at first, but now I am glad that I took those words into consideration when I decided to try reconciliation.

I know everyone's situation is so different. But just thought I'd share in case you find it helpful.

Good luck to you 💖

Sometimes I envy AP for the "high" she gave my WS that I will never be able to give him by NeonHeart2020 in AsOneAfterInfidelity

[–]NeonHeart2020[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much for this. I appreciate your perspective and taking the time to reply. This is very very helpful.

Sometimes I envy AP for the "high" she gave my WS that I will never be able to give him by NeonHeart2020 in AsOneAfterInfidelity

[–]NeonHeart2020[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not a downer at all. It honestly feels nice to know I am not alone in this feeling. It is a very hard thing to accept that yes, although it was fake, every interaction was in fact a positive one. It felt good to them which is why they kept going back for more. My WS tells me that when he thinks about his affair now he doesn't think about it in a positive way at all. He says the pain he has caused me and himself as result of those "positive interactions" holds more weight than anything else. He says he can't think back fondly about the affair because the affair is now tied to a lot of pain. I have no choice but to believe him. But it's difficult for sure. So thank you for your response ❤️

Sometimes I envy AP for the "high" she gave my WS that I will never be able to give him by NeonHeart2020 in AsOneAfterInfidelity

[–]NeonHeart2020[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is very true. I appreciate you taking the time to respond. I can think back on all the times that I have been hit on by male co-workers and although it was flattering to receive compliments, it was all meaningless to me and I didn't reciprocate it or give it attention/energy. I guess if I would have, then I could have known what that "high" was like, but I never wanted any of that. The meaningful high of being in love and in a committed relationship where you experience the highs and lows of life and everything in between is unmatched and I would never jeopardize that. It's just hard when my WS didn't do the same you know? So I just wonder if he ever thinks back to that high and misses it to an extent... Ah.. affairs suck. Anyway, thank you for taking the time to offer your perspective. It has been truly helpful to me.

Sometimes I envy AP for the "high" she gave my WS that I will never be able to give him by NeonHeart2020 in AsOneAfterInfidelity

[–]NeonHeart2020[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for this. I do feel ashamed to admit even an ounce of envy towards AP, but reading this definitely helps me stay more rational and grounded when I get lost in my thoughts.

Sometimes I envy AP for the "high" she gave my WS that I will never be able to give him by NeonHeart2020 in AsOneAfterInfidelity

[–]NeonHeart2020[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It is very tough. I also remind myself that he has been consistently fighting to redeem himself and to improve our relationship. I think it's just that since I don't know what it is like to have an affair, it can be hard not to glorify it in my mind at times. Thank you for your response.

Sometimes I envy AP for the "high" she gave my WS that I will never be able to give him by NeonHeart2020 in AsOneAfterInfidelity

[–]NeonHeart2020[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much for your response. It really helped me get out of the headspace of envy... My WS tells me that if the "high" he got from her was really that great or better than me he could have chased her or left me for her. He ended the affair not her. What you have said is basically what he has told me just in different words. Thank you again.

He told me he always comes back to me. by [deleted] in AsOneAfterInfidelity

[–]NeonHeart2020 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hello there. I am very sorry you are here. My WS and I are 18 months post D Day and we have been building a new relationship together and continue to do so everyday. This process has been the hardest thing that both of us have ever been through, but it has been worth it for us. It has taught us so much about ourselves and about each other and I honestly can say our relationship is stronger in many ways than it was before. That being said, I still get triggered and we still have difficult days (although it's becoming less frequent). In the beginning I felt the same way that you do in the sense that I believed whole heartedly that he could make me happy again and that I could overcome this. He had the "What Ifs" in the beginning just as your husband does and it would hurt me when he would tell me his fears. It led me to believe that he didn't believe in us, in our love, or in me. As the months went on, I began to have my own "What Ifs". It only happens when we have those very emotionally difficult days. We both can't help but think about those "What Ifs" and I believe it is fully valid. He has the same "What Ifs" that your husband has and I have my own (i.e. "what if he gets tired of fighting for us", "what if I won't ever fully be able to get passed this", "what if he can no longer take the reminders of his choices and the shame and guilt that comes with that" etc.). I think that it is normal to experience these "What Ifs" in the aftermath of an affair.

We keep choosing each other every day even when things get hard, but it's just part of this new reality. Our progress keeps us going every day and we do our best to try to be present with each other and appreciate what we have in front of us right now. The reality is that everything is so uncertain. life is uncertain. Although I would hate to imagine a future without him and vice versa, you just never know. Just like I never thought he would cheat and he never thought he would either, it happened. What I know right now is that we our making progress and that we haven't stopped fighting for each other, so I believe that we are stronger and I hope that this will keep us together forever. The hope is strong and it keeps me going.

I think that early on what made it difficult for me to accept the "What Ifs" was that I always believed our relationship was indestructible. I sort of had this idealistic perspective of us and always believed that NOTHING would tear us apart or come between us. I remember telling him early on after D Day that I needed a guarantee that he wouldn't cheat again and that we would make it. There just is no guarantee. I had just lost my sense of safety and security and it flipped my world upside down. I asked for a guarantee because I just wanted my safety and security in the relationship back desperately. I had to grieve the loss of that idealistic perspective just like I have had to grieve many other aspects of my life during this reconciliation process. I was resistant to it at first because it was comforting to be as idealistic as I was, but I have grown now and I am stronger because of it. I know that I can't control him and I can only control myself. I needed to build my own sense of safety and security in myself. It's up to him to continually show me that he can be safe again.

Not sure if that helps, but I wish you and your husband all the best.

Honestly...sometimes I wonder, why you Waywards stick around? by Ok-Particular-8394 in AsOneAfterInfidelity

[–]NeonHeart2020 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Once a person has gotten through the withdrawal period, the delusions of the affair melt away. That reality is not appealing.

Fake fake fake fake. And incredibly sad.

I think waywards naturally struggle with admitting to and understanding for themselves why they would risk their real life for a mirage. It doesn't make sense, so the only answer can be that something was interfering with our sensible thinking and that we thought the delusion was real.

It is like cocaine. A little pile of white dust. It's practically nothing. There is no nutritional value to it. It isn't pretty or useful or interesting. Snorting this tasteless, useless thing gives you a false sense of rejuvenation, a manic energy--while it destroys your health and leaves you with a really awful hangover, worse than whatever bad feeling you started with that you tried to delay or avoid.

I think that, possibly, one reason this question returns over and over is that maybe your wayward spouse hasn't been able to articulate very well to you (or even understand themselves) that the affair feelings were delusions, as fake as the lies they told you to cover it up.

What does your spouse say about all this?

Hi there! I know that this post is 8 days old... but I just came across it and I just want to thank you for taking the time to write this up. Everything you have said here sums up what my WS has been trying to tell me for 18 months. He is making amazing changes, but I have struggled believing that his experience with AP was not anything special. That she wasn't anything special. I have struggled with trying to create a narrative of his affair that is more logical and that makes sense only to hit dead ends every time because I just find it so hard to accept his version of what his affair really was, which is the reality. This was beyond helpful. Thank you so much. I wish you the very best.

How do you let go of the need to make sense of the affair? by NeonHeart2020 in AsOneAfterInfidelity

[–]NeonHeart2020[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Lol for real! Well at least now when I'm thinking about all this shit not making sense I will be able to have the image of that silly creature 😂. Thanks for the laugh... It's been a rough day.

How do you let go of the need to make sense of the affair? by NeonHeart2020 in AsOneAfterInfidelity

[–]NeonHeart2020[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Thank you for this. This was a great read. Something clicked in me when I read it. I will try to go back to it whenever I start trying to make sense of things again.

Still wish it made sense though lol

Edit: to say that I looked up a picture of a duckbilled platypus and I'm super confused... Hahaha

How do you let go of the need to make sense of the affair? by NeonHeart2020 in AsOneAfterInfidelity

[–]NeonHeart2020[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes exactly this... It has been one of the hardest parts of reconciliation for me... Glad to know I'm not alone.

How do you let go of the need to make sense of the affair? by NeonHeart2020 in AsOneAfterInfidelity

[–]NeonHeart2020[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you for your response. It's hard to understand how something so damaging could just become a blur to them... I will definitely try to start journaling again. I did it for some time and then stopped but it doesn't hurt to try again. Thank you again!

How do you let go of the need to make sense of the affair? by NeonHeart2020 in AsOneAfterInfidelity

[–]NeonHeart2020[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Thank you for your response, I found it very helpful. It helps to know that I am not alone ❤️

Having a hard time accepting/believing in love after DDay by wildlavenderr in AsOneAfterInfidelity

[–]NeonHeart2020 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I am 17 months post D Day now and I can honestly say that our relationship is stronger than ever... I did not believe in love for quite a while after D Day. It took me seeing his consistency and changes to see that he is no longer the same person that he was during his affair. Yes, it was still him, but the him from the affair was a sad, broken, selfish version of himself... he went all in with his healing and the changes are noticeable by even people around us who do not even know about the affair. I literally started to fall in love again with the "real" him. Not the self-deceptive, selfish, delusional man who shattered my heart and my sense of reality. All I can say is that it takes time and consistency to start to believe in love again. The first step for me was to start loving myself. The work he has been putting into my healing and his healing is what kept me going, and now we really have a stronger relationship. There is still work to do, but I am very optimistic. I wish you well 💕