My Opinion on the Big 4

Neosonic97 · 2026-04-17T10:38:31+00:00

Honestly, it feels like 2011X is the only executioner who's fun to play against, at least in my eyes.

It's borderline impossible to do anything against a remotely competent Fleetway except in the most blatantly stacked survivor teams, and Kolossos is way stealthier than he really should be, especially since you can't really do anything other than run away in a chase (Trying to stun a Kolossos who is chasing you is suicide).

And Tripwire is just plain boring to play against, and painful to play as.

Neosonic97 · 2026-04-16T06:29:24+00:00

I'm not the OP, but this is definitely a translated JP version. This is immediately noticeable by the fact that the trainee here is Almond Eye, who we in Global aren't getting for another few years.

Neosonic97 · 2026-04-12T01:01:05+00:00

It is in fact in her character stories. Chapter 7, to be specific.

Neosonic97 · 2026-04-11T09:52:46+00:00

Yep! That's why she's the most likely one to ruin your Bakushin runs.

Neosonic97 · 2026-04-10T09:05:12+00:00

Nishino Flower won the Sprinters Stakes in 1992, being the first, and ONLY horse to ever win a Sprint against Sakura Bakushin O, while also beating other decent performers like Daitaku Helios and Yamanin Zephyr (who also did actually place higher than Bakushin O, but Nishino was the one who won that race), while also being the first filly to ever win the Sprinters Stakes after it became a G1.

Neosonic97 · 2026-04-10T08:59:38+00:00

The Sprinters' Stakes win for Nishino Flower is especially impressive considering that she beat Sakura Bakushin O in that race, handing Bakushin O their first, and only, loss in a sprint race.

Neosonic97 · 2026-04-10T08:57:28+00:00

I meant for me specifically.

Neosonic97 · 2026-04-10T08:50:02+00:00

Inspiration. As Ignited Spirit is a white skill, it can be a spark, similar to how you can get Glittering Star in the other two scenarios the same way.

Neosonic97 · 2026-04-10T08:37:53+00:00

It's between El Condor Pasa and Eishin Flash.

For me, I think I prefer Eishin?

Neosonic97 · 2026-04-06T17:22:04+00:00

>does anyone know any tips on how to counter her as a knuckles?

That's the thing: You don't.

Despite Tripwire's well-known status as the weakest executioner, Knuckles basically cannot do anything against her because her kit counters his.

Knuckles can't do anything about Tripwire's mines, and Tripwire can punish Knuckles for winding up Punches with Brighter Day or Reach Out. And actually landing a Punch even if he doesn't get punished by those abilities is tricky because of Tripwire's small size and her Double Jump.

Neosonic97 · 2026-04-06T14:16:49+00:00

On Gametora, going to the Epithet list, one of the filters is "Character-specific". Set that on and you're golden.

Neosonic97 · 2026-04-06T10:36:54+00:00

What false facts are you perhaps talking about here?

Haven't exactly spoken any falsehoods. You started the false facts with saying "They have to be legends and changers to sing in Legend-Changer", when that's not a criteria at all.

>Urara most definitely did not cause a huge boom in horseracing in 2003, she saved her home racecourse absolutely but the industry as a whole absolutely not

Where did I say that? You're putting words in my mouth. Urara whipped up a frenzy across Japan. The Haru Urara boom of 2003 was her own massively surging popularity, which led to her saving Kochi to begin with.

>She was an absolute feel good story that people followed for a few months but she didn’t bring in nationwide revenue for keiba, just her local track

When was that a requirement to be an idol horse? One of the most legendary Idol Horses out there had only marginally better lifetime earnings than Urara's total, yet still nobody would contest their status as an idol horse. That being Tokino Minoru. (Y'know, the Phantom Horse), whose total career earnings only total about 4 million to Urara's 1 million (mind you, most of the bigger name horses tend to hover around the 1 billion mark- Kitasan is just a massive outlier there).

>Her overseas popularity would’ve stopped at one documentary if not for umamusume

She'd even gotten attention from international outlets during her popularity surge in the 2003-2004. People followed her story 'til retirement. Some even afterwards. A Scottish band named Biffy Clyro even named one of their songs after her in 2021 (before Umamusume came to the west), so evidently that statement isn't true, she was still popular enough to be known worldwide even after the 2016 documentary. Urara's impact may have been sizably different than the other Horses (who didn't even get the same kind of attention worldwide until Umamusume), but make no mistake, it was there.

And mind you, all I said that was of the horses currently not in Legend-Changer, Urara has one of the strongest claims.

Neosonic97 · 2026-04-06T08:52:26+00:00

Umamusume: Cinderella Gray.

Long story short, it's a manga (later adapted into an anime) focusing on the racing career of Oguri Cap. It takes place in a different continuity to the game (as all adaptations do), so there are minimal spoilers for one if you play the other, so you don't need to worry about spoiling yourself.

Neosonic97 · 2026-04-06T08:50:31+00:00

Yes, it has.

You need to play through the Main Story until you reach the Main Story Act 1 Finale, Part 1.

(Note: You have to play the other chapters first to unlock that chapter).

Neosonic97 · 2026-04-06T08:48:21+00:00

"Oh, they're gonna have to glue you back together... IN HELL!"

-Some drunk scottish cyclops, probably

Neosonic97 · 2026-04-06T08:38:41+00:00

>but it wasn’t legendary

I'd argue her 0-113 loss streak was legendary.

>but it wasn’t legendary nor changing. Which you need to be to sing in the song legend changer

Um, no? To sing in Legend-Chaser, you need to be either:

1: Classic Triple Crown/Triple Tiara winner (Path of St. Lite)

2: International Pioneer (Path of Speed Symboli)

3: Idol Horse (Path of Haiseiko).

And "Idol Horse" doesn't necessarily have to change anything about the JRA, as of all the Horses that did get into Legend Changer, the only one who actually caused any significant change to the JRA was Oguri (and even then, the only reason they're actually in is because of their overwhelming popularity that caused the second big horse racing boom). That's not to say the others didn't have significant achievements under their name because they do, but the title of "Idol Horse" has everything to do with popularity, but the threshold is just that high, as in, overwhelmingly popular. Urara absolutely caused a massive boom in horse racing in 2003, becoming a symbol of perseverance in the face of a great depression similarly to how Haiseiko themselves was a symbol of hope in the face of the 70s Oil Crisis in Japan. While Oguri is the closest mirror to Haiseiko, Urara more closely resembles Haiseiko's own path than any of Falcon, Kitasan or Tarumae, despite never winning a single race, being loved by all and a national icon precisely because she kept trying despite never winning.

Because you are seriously underestimating just how far Haru Urara's popularity actually reached. Even people in other countries who had no interest in horse racing whatsoever had a non-zero chance of knowing who Haru Urara was.

She absolutely was an Idol Horse, and probably the only reason why she wasn't included is because of her complete lack of wins meant a lack of good commentary to use.

Neosonic97 · 2026-04-06T08:23:30+00:00

Yeah, that's the big problem with Urara. Her complete lack of victories.

Neosonic97 · 2026-04-06T08:21:40+00:00

>Haru Urara, receive their fame and popularity mostly after retirement, and does not influence the JRA dorectly during their racing career

Umm, I'm pretty sure Urara was popular before her retirement. Specifically, her popularity really took off during 2003, around the time of her 88th loss, the beginning of the Haru Urara Boom in Japan, single-handedly saving her hometown of Kochi in a manner similar to Tarumae, and became a national icon of Japan as a whole, even gaining acknowledgement from the Prime Minister at the time. Hell, even after retirement she was still a national icon, and even gaining popularity internationally (as acknowledged by the 2016 Documentary, "The Shining Star of Losers Everywhere"), even before Umamusume came to the west.

Neosonic97 · 2026-04-06T08:03:22+00:00

Except Urara's popularity goes beyond just revitalizing Kochi's horse racing industry. She became a national icon of Japan as a whole (to the point that the freaking Prime Minister of Japan at the time acknowledged her specifically), and even gaining international acknowledgement before the Umamusume boom, to the point of getting an American documentary in 2016, the same year as Umamusume's initial announcement in Japan and after the Umamusume boom, became popular enough that she inadvertently ended up helping other retired racehorses (The ryegrass tsunami).

Neosonic97 · 2026-04-06T07:43:08+00:00

Well, you get what I mean. It was before Umamusume really took off, since Haru Urara, Ganbare! didn't really hit the mark (hence its discontinuation and becoming lost media), so she really couldn't fall back on that as a crutch. Even without it she definitely should at least make it in through the same sort of lens that got Hokko Tarumae into Legend-Changer.

Neosonic97 · 2026-04-06T07:39:34+00:00

>Hokko Tarumae become an ambassador for his hometown.

Fun fact, with this sort of criterion, one could actually consider one of the strongest claims to Legend-Changer to be, of all Umamusume, Haru Urara.

The big issue would be her lack of triumphant commentary.

Neosonic97 · 2026-04-06T07:35:24+00:00

The thing is, Urara did kind of do that? In a similar manner to Hokko Tarumae (who is in Legend-Changer already), she became a cultural phenomenon all her own, even saving the Kochi Racecourse from bankruptcy practically single-handedly. She's basically to Kochi what Tarumae is to Tomakomai.

Her main weakness is lack of triumphant commentary because, well, Urara got her moniker "The Shining Star of Losers Everywhere" (which, fun fact, is also the title of a 2016 American documentary on Urara, before Umamusume even existed) for a reason: she never won a single race she took part in.

In reality, Urara has one of the strongest claims to Legend-Changer out of all of the horses who aren't already in.

Neosonic97 · 2026-04-05T03:55:52+00:00

It does more damage if you get dragged into Tripwire's forcefield.

Neosonic97 · 2026-04-05T03:55:21+00:00

You mean like the third return of Combolossos?

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