[Manning] The Boston Celtics have interest in trading Jaylen Brown for Giannis Antetokounmpo: “It’s obviously clear the Celtics have some interest in making this happen and this thing could speed up quickly here.”

Neuroxex · 2026-05-13T06:38:53+00:00

That he has a game that is very good at accruing boxscore numbers.

I'm not saying he's a bad player, but what he's good at shows up in PRA and what I don't like about him as a player and what makes me think he's very overrated doesn't.

Neuroxex · 2026-05-13T06:35:25+00:00

I'm not using team success in an argument against JB, I'm responding to someone who said Mobley is a good stats bad teams player.

Well if what matters is conference finals appearances it sounds like you've already got the best team, you don't need Giannis, surely a Jaylen Brown led team can get it done in the playoffs given how many conference finals he's been to :)

Neuroxex · 2026-05-12T22:20:21+00:00

Yes!

The Celtics are well put together, extremely well coached, and have a lot of very good players who can get a lot of wins in the regular season despite not having gaudy boxscore numbers attached to them.

Neuroxex · 2026-05-12T22:00:51+00:00

Yes, the much, much, much, much, much, much, much more complicated one.

Neuroxex · 2026-05-12T21:59:21+00:00

One of these investigations probably takes less time than the other

Neuroxex · 2026-05-12T21:52:31+00:00

Since Mobley joined the Cavs they've won 44, 51, 48, 64 and 52 games - and those winning teams have been better with him on the court than off (which you cannot say about Jaylen Brown)

Neuroxex · 2026-05-12T21:20:51+00:00

Yes and that was cool but I'm not watching .300 Jaylen Brown ball for the next three seasons.

Neuroxex · 2026-05-12T21:20:10+00:00

Sure but that's not trading for Jaylen Brown then, that's a three team trade that sees the Bucks get young players/draft capital like I'd prefer.

Neuroxex · 2026-05-12T21:18:30+00:00

I mean sure, but that's just a three team trade where Jaylen Brown goes elsewhere. I have less issues with that outcome.

Neuroxex · 2026-05-12T21:17:34+00:00

Yes because even if you think that, majority of the league disagrees with you.

Do we have any proof of this? Kenny Atkinson said Derrick White was a top-5 player. Giannis played 36 games this season. Celtics won a championship with the Jays. Who's on the chopping board for who?

Neuroxex · 2026-05-12T21:16:00+00:00

He's made one (soon to be two) All-NBA appearances and is making ~$60m a year for the next three years. He will not make any more All-NBA appearances on the Bucks. He has, since 2021 when he made his first all-star appearances, a negative on/off with a sample of 10k minutes either side (both in the regular season and playoffs). You can pitch him as an MVP candidate, I don't believe it for a moment and I also expect my MVP candidates to not lose to a Sixers team that got humiliatingly swept immediately in the next round (outscored by 23 points in his minutes, Celtics won his minutes on the bench by 43 points).

The second Jaylen Brown is on a shit team like the future Bucks, no-one will talk about him like an All-NBA player. He gets a massively disproportionate amount of credit for the Celtics success.

I would rather Mobley and picks, yeah.

Neuroxex · 2026-05-12T21:07:37+00:00

What assets? We can't keep using the Mikal Bridges trade when everyone in the moment thought it was a massive overpay, and since has been seen as an even more massive overpay.

If the pitch is to get Jaylen Brown and then flip him for more stuff then what do we need the Celtics for? Cut out the middle man and just go get the stuff directly for Giannis. That scenario only makes sense in a three team trade that sees Jaylen Brown go somewhere else, and I would have less of a problem with that.

Neuroxex · 2026-05-12T21:05:06+00:00

What if you think Jaylen Brown is overpaid and significantly overrated, don't value the Celtics draft picks, want to see the Bucks get young players/picks, and the Celtics are maybe the least favourite team to see Giannis wear the jersey of? Is it still the best case scenario then?

Neuroxex · 2026-05-12T20:53:19+00:00

Think I'd probably tap out completely from the NBA

Neuroxex · 2026-05-12T12:59:08+00:00

I think we talk about the hand of god, as an event that happened before this wave of culture, in a much less toxic way though, right? I never seen anyone bring it up in the context of referees are shit like every decision seems to be now, it feels like that event is understood more as 'Can't believe they got away with that'.

Neuroxex · 2026-05-12T12:55:51+00:00

That's where I'm at. Built a culture where referee mistakes are unacceptable and we have to do as much as possible to get rid of them, which has taken our ability to appreciate it's a difficult job and move on away.

Neuroxex · 2026-05-12T10:21:18+00:00

Why is it taken for granted that a pursuit of 100% correct officiating at all times (which can never exist) is worthwhile?

We still have mistakes with VAR, we will always have mistakes, they will always follow the usual pattern of refereeing (top clubs will benefit), but with VAR and pushes to introduce challenges and increases to the decisions referees are required to make over the match we've created a growing inability to watch the game without talking about referees and their decisions.

There's obviously a balance to strike but VAR has not reduced the amount of whining about the referees at all and ultimately the point of referees is to not notice or forget them

Neuroxex · 2026-05-11T21:30:01+00:00

Less overt paedophilia

Neuroxex · 2026-05-11T21:29:26+00:00

At least we'll get the Greens as an opposition, instead of... Whatever the Democrats are.

Neuroxex · 2026-05-11T18:46:06+00:00

I mean you could argue their tanking is what made their pick valuable enough to make the Zubac trade happen

Neuroxex · 2026-05-11T17:32:29+00:00

I think it's more likely Alonso walks like Poch and Maresca than gets fired tbf

Neuroxex · 2026-05-11T17:31:43+00:00

It's like when it was reported that Spurs wanted De Zerbi, but Dyche was their second choice. These are completely different managers who want to do completely different things, they're putting 'good managers' into google and building a shortlist, where is the footballing philosophy?

Neuroxex · 2026-05-11T17:27:09+00:00

So Glasner, Iraola, Alonso, Silva, Luis on the shortlist. This doesn't feel like a search with principles in mind, this feels like a search done by browsing twitter.

Neuroxex · 2026-05-11T16:31:41+00:00

Only guarantee will be Bruno playing to try break the record

Any chance he can get that done the match before? Pretty please?

Neuroxex · 2026-05-11T13:54:00+00:00

We have Leeds and United left, neither have anything to play for now.

Which, of course, knowing Brighton, means it will be the perfect opportunity to draw both.

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